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Interesting Article from a Long Time Republican

Here are some excerpts from an excellent article by Republican Tom Nichols in the Atlantic.

 

"I was a Republican for most of my adult life. I came of political age in 1980, and although I grew up in a working-class Democratic stronghold in Massachusetts, I found a home in Ronald Reagan’s GOP. Back then, the Republicans were a confident “party of ideas” optimistic boosters of the American dream at home, and fierce opponents of the Soviet Union overseas. While the Democrats were the party of recrimination and retreat, the Republicans were the party of the future.

 

"The transformation of the GOP into a cult of personality is so complete that the Republicans didn’t even bother presenting a platform at their own convention. Like a group of ciphers at a meeting of SPECTRE, they nodded at whatever Number One told them to do, each of them fearing an extended pinkie finger pressing the button that would electrocute them into political oblivion.

 

Some Republicans, even while they grant that Trump is a sociopath and an idiot, and how unsettling that so many of them will stipulate to that, are willing to continue voting for Republican candidates because the GOP is nominally pro-life or because the administration’s judicial appointments show that the people around the president are doing what conservatives should want done.

 

But Trump’s few conservative achievements are meaningless when compared with his war on American democracy, a rampage that few Republicans have lifted a finger to stop. Trump and Attorney General Bill Barr have turned the constitutional order and the rule of law into a joke."

 

No person should ever get a second chance to destroy the Constitution. Trump has brought the United States to the brink of civil catastrophe, and the Republican Party has protected him from the consequences of all his immoral and illegal actions more ably than even Fred Trump did. Conservatives need to put the current Republican Party out of its and our misery.

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/09/i-used-think-gop-should-be-saved/616189/?utm_sourc...

 

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The large number of Republicans bailing out on Trump seems to be growing.

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Decent, honest Republicans (NOT Trump Cult Members) are running away from the Trump version of the Republican Party in large numbers. 

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...and the implicable logic of the GOPerBase:

 

Anti-tRump = Marxist

 

Brought to us by the nazi wing of the GOP who earlier alerted us to the fact Eisenhower was a Commie Dupe for his opposition to the Military Industrial Complex, and Ike's audacity in telling the American People Federal Budgets were trade-offs.Here's what he had to say back in 1953:

Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.
This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities. It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population. It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals. It is some fifty miles of concrete pavement. We pay for a single fighter with a half-million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single Destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people. . . . This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron.

 

That was the Republican party I supported while I rang doorbells for Goldwater, voted for Nixon twice and only gave up on when my employment in Government gave me a close look at what Reagan actually did. Since that epiphany, I voted for  Perot once and Democrats the rest of the time. I didn't move - the GOP slid off a cliff.

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lb59936245 calls those who despise Comrade Trump Marxists. That's very interesting because Comrade Trump is a president who is Valdimir's puppet. 

 

It would be nice if lb59936245 can provide FACTS to support his argument that:

1. The Dems want to take away our freedoms

2. The Dems want to turn America into a Socialist Country.

 

I can't wait to hear his FACTS, provided by FOX.

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CriticalThinking:  

It would be nice if lb59936245 can provide FACTS to support his argument that:

1. The Dems want to take away our freedoms

2. The Dems want to turn America into a Socialist Country.

 

I can't wait to hear his FACTS, provided by FOX.

 

 

If you're waiting for facts prepare for a very long wait. 😁 They only have a few bullets in the chamber that they use over and over no matter the subject they're trying to discuss. They have socialist, marxist, communist, also taking away freedoms, and grabbing guns, and that's about it. In other words, they can't really discuss anything at all, just call names and throw out unfounded accusations before slithering away.

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"The so-called Democratic political platform is designed to take away our freedoms and move the USA to Marxist Socialism.  Remember socialism is just a nice word for communism."

 

Unbelievable! There is no room for FACTS or the TRUTH in Trump World. They believe whatever Fox or Trump tells them.  America is, and has been a socialist country since the 1930s. Three of the largest Socialist Programs on the Planet are:

  • Medicare 
  • Social Security
  • Medicaid

Take away our freedoms? I would be LOL if this wasn't so serious. Trump is a budding dictator who has no respect for "The Rule of Law" or the Constitution

  • Trump cabinet members now pledge loyalty to him instead of the Constitution
  • AG Barr turned the Justice Dept. into Trump's Personal Law Firm
  • The so called Senate Impeachment Trial was a complete joke where the Dems were NOT allowed to introduce evidence or call witnesses. 
  • Nobody is allowed to disagree with Trump or criticize him.

 

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@CriticalThinking wrote:

"The so-called Democratic political platform is designed to take away our freedoms and move the USA to Marxist Socialism.  Remember socialism is just a nice word for communism."

 

Unbelievable! There is no room for FACTS or the TRUTH in Trump World. They believe whatever Fox or Trump tells them.  America is, and has been a socialist country since the 1930s. Three of the largest Socialist Programs on the Planet are:

  • Medicare 
  • Social Security
  • Medicaid

Take away our freedoms? I would be LOL if this wasn't so serious. Trump is a budding dictator who has no respect for "The Rule of Law" or the Constitution

  • Trump cabinet members now pledge loyalty to him instead of the Constitution
  • AG Barr turned the Justice Dept. into Trump's Personal Law Firm
  • The so called Senate Impeachment Trial was a complete joke where the Dems were NOT allowed to introduce evidence or call witnesses. 
  • Nobody is allowed to disagree with Trump or criticize him.

 


You're right again, CeeTee....it's just stunning.  CLEARLY they need to tune in their hats...

 

A Republican family watches for a sane person to speak at the RNC Convention. (fortunately for them, it was also broadcast on C-Span)

 

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Republicans gathered for a Q-Anon update!

 

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"FAKE 45 #illegitimate" read a sign at the Woman's March in DC, 1/27/2017
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Good article CeeTee and thanks for posting it.  Too bad most Republicans won't bother reading it; they're like a paid-off referee that's swallowed their whistle.

 

Tom Nichols is right; The Republican Party is Not Worth Saving, No one should ever get a second chance to destroy the Constitution.


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Obviously, this person did not watch the same GOP convention that I watched.  The GOP convention was so uplifting compared to the dull and divisive Democratic convention.  Democrat politicians, not rank and file Democrats, pit blacks against whites, women against men, gays against straights, religion against religion, and on and on.  Time for America to come together and end this divisiveness.  The so-called Democratic political platform is designed to take away our freedoms and move the USA to Marxist Socialism.  Remember socialism is just a nice word for communism.

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lb59936245:   Democrat politicians, not rank and file Democrats, pit blacks against whites, women against men, gays against straights, religion against religion, and on and on. Time for America to come together and end this divisiveness. The so-called Democratic political platform is designed to take away our freedoms and move the USA to Marxist Socialism. Remember socialism is just a nice word for communism.

 

 

Lot's of accusations, but zero evidence backing them up. Why is that? Probably because they only exist in the windmills of the minds of people who stay glued to Fox News. Btw, the remark about socialism is wrong.............it's a favorite word tossed around by people who wouldn't recognize it if it bit them.😂

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@Panjandrum wrote:

lb59936245:   Democrat politicians, not rank and file Democrats, pit blacks against whites, women against men, gays against straights, religion against religion, and on and on. Time for America to come together and end this divisiveness. The so-called Democratic political platform is designed to take away our freedoms and move the USA to Marxist Socialism. Remember socialism is just a nice word for communism.

 

 

Lot's of accusations, but zero evidence backing them up. Why is that?  That's the common denominator with MOST trump supporters, Panjan.


"FAKE 45 #illegitimate" read a sign at the Woman's March in DC, 1/27/2017
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Centristsin2010:  Lot's of accusations, but zero evidence backing them up. Why is that?  That's the common denominator with MOST trump supporters, Panjan.

 

 

Yep, but you know Cent, when I think about it, they've operated like this for a very long time. I'm old enough to remember the feeding frenzy during the Clinton years when they had blizzards of accusations and investigations, and never any facts backing them up. Then there was the Swift Boating of John Kerry......remember that one? More crazy unfounded accusations aimed at Obama. And they're still at it, but with Trump they've doubled down on the craziness.

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@lb59936245     As a registered Republican of many years. this is what I think of your post.

 

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@lb59936245 wrote:

Obviously, this person did not watch the same GOP convention that I watched. Obviously this person didn't read the topic article! There is not one word about the convention.  Thank you for CLEARLT demonstrating the article's premise.  As I suggested, Republicans won't even read it.  The GOP convention was so uplifting compared to the dull and divisive Democratic convention.  Democrat politicians, not rank and file Democrats, pit blacks against whites, women against men, gays against straights, religion against religion, and on and on.  WRONG!  You must have had Hannity on again....Time for America to come together and end this divisiveness.  The so-called Democratic political platform is designed to take away our freedoms and move the USA to Marxist Socialism.  Really?  What in the Democratic platform would do that?  Please respond using exact quotes from the Democratic Convention YOU claimed you watched.


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Always good to hear from the Marxists on this forum.

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@lb59936245 wrote:

Always good to hear from the Marxists on this forum.


I know as those people would be Trump supporters who support a person that worships and praises Communist dictators!!!

 

 

DUMP TRUMP AND DITCH MITCH TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!
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ib59936245 wrote:

 

"Always good to hear from the Marxists on this forum."

 

Amazing reply completely devoid of facts.  What did I say that was Marxist?  You seem to believe that any issue that YOU PERSONALLY do not believe in is somehow Marxist.  Listening to the other side and compromising used to be one of the American ideals, now it is considered a weakness. 

I could make the same accusation about you being a Fascist, but I won't.

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@sp362 wrote:

ib59936245 wrote:

 

"Always good to hear from the Marxists on this forum."

 

Amazing reply completely devoid of facts.  What did I say that was Marxist?  You seem to believe that any issue that YOU PERSONALLY do not believe in is somehow Marxist.  Listening to the other side and compromising used to be one of the American ideals, now it is considered a weakness. 

I could make the same accusation about you being a Fascist, but I won't.


You are RIGHT. SP.  Many on the far-Right have bought the vile spew coming from the Fascist in the WH...

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"FAKE 45 #illegitimate" read a sign at the Woman's March in DC, 1/27/2017
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@lb59936245 wrote:

Always good to hear from the Marxists on this forum.


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"FAKE 45 #illegitimate" read a sign at the Woman's March in DC, 1/27/2017
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 ib59936245,

 

How do you explain the fact the Trump plays into people's fears and runs on hate and exclusion?  He is the first President that I can remember that seems to be actively promoting divisiveness (because it is good for him personally) at the expense of the Country.  Sophomoric name calling is not intelligent or witty.  Calling out the press as "fake news" anytime they say something he doesn't like is ridiculous.  If you don't see Trump as a danger to the Constitution, then you have your head in the sand.  The fact that you can be so easily controlled by allegations of socialism and communism, just confirm that.  Just out of curiosity, what word would you use for our present system of crony capitalism vs real capitalism?

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