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The federal whisteleblower LAW, which trumps the agency form, never had direct knowledge as a requirement. The only requirement is "reasonably believes". But in the end, this is an irrrelevant, trivial issue.

 

Who cares if the Intelligence Agency form was changed? It's completely irrelevant to the behavior of the president. This is a way for Trump Lovers to ignore his horrible behavior and try to blame someone else, the whistleblower. In the real world, nobody is concerned about the whistleblower and the form he used. They have Trump's own words and actions, and that's how people outside the cult will make their decision. They don't care about the form used to report Trump's illegal behavior.

 

Here's the bottom line, Trump Lovers never hold their hero in the White House accountable.


CT I just heard an interview with Tappper on CNN  and that was concerning to me. Tapper asked the question about the memo, the answer of that politicians went all over the place. he never answer the question, he brought about Mueeler Report, the Clinton administration,  How Obama was bad everything  under the son except. the actual questin. and that is what I am feel that it is imperative not to allow any of them to change the issue. and I will continuesly remeind any of them about the Constituion and what it says. and set aside anything that the Wisthleblower or Biden have to do with the impeachment pocess. Arguing them on ths matter provide them with a platform that may   erode the real issue that this country is facing.

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CriticalThinking:   

But in the end, this is an irrrelevant, trivial issue.

Who cares if the Intelligence Agency form was changed?

 

 

The Cult cares because they think it exonerates Trump. Their entire focus is on how unfair everyone is to Trump and they're sure that some little detail is going to make this whole thing go away. They can't seem to get their heads around the fact that this is serious and probably the end of Trump.

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jimc91:   Now the dimms are willing to accept "Hearsay" as evidence to impeach a President they don't like...  

 

 

 

You have yet to address what Trump did and instead just carp about procedure and other meaningless minutiae. Do you approve Trump's actions or not?

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The federal whisteleblower LAW, which trumps the agency form, never had direct knowledge as a requirement. The only requirement is "reasonably believes". But in the end, this is an irrrelevant, trivial issue.

 

Who cares if the Intelligence Agency form was changed? It's completely irrelevant to the behavior of the president. This is a way for Trump Lovers to ignore his horrible behavior and try to blame someone else, the whistleblower. In the real world, nobody is concerned about the whistleblower and the form he used. They have Trump's own words and actions, and that's how people outside the cult will make their decision. They don't care about the form used to report Trump's illegal behavior.

 

Here's the bottom line, Trump Lovers never hold their hero in the White House accountable.

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And who gives  the wistlebloer comaplint a hoot? not I,  I am only stating over and over again. the issue is not Biden or the whistlerblower the issue is|

SUVBORNING THE CONSTITUTION BY REQUESTINg THe AID OF A FOREIGn NATIONAL TO INVESTIGATE AN AMERICAN CITIZEN THAT HAPPENS TO BE A POLITICAL OPPONENT.
THE CONSTITUTION IS VERY CLEAR IT IS ILLEGAL TO DO SO. 
So now if you want to bring something different or anotyher subject, be my guest 

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Now the dimms are willing to accept "Hearsay" as evidence to impeach a President they don't like...  

 

They clearly learned nothing from the Bill Clinton impeachment or the 2016 election.  Oh well, carry on.  

 

Trump's 2020 campaign just received a $13 Million windfall compliments of Pelosi, Shifty Schiff and the rest of the deranged dimms in Congress and the media.  

 

Go for it!  

 

 

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CriticalThinking:    It really doesn't matter, but every page of the Intelligence Form was revised August 2019. Trump Lovers are trying to claim something that apparently isn't true, that somehow the direct knowledge part was changed.

 

 

 

That's what a normal person would think, but that's not how the cult operates. They search for any little detail they think will twist the facts to exonerate Trump. In their paranoid minds, this means the deep state knew back in August that there would be a damaging whistleblower complaint, so the rules were changed in order to catch him. Ridiculous, but that's how they view this.

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The federal whisteleblower LAW, which trumps the agency form, never had direct knowledge as a requirement. The only requirement is "reasonably believes".

 

More importantly, who cares? This is one more way for Trump Lovers to completely ignore his horrible behavior and try to blame someone else, the whistleblower. In the real world, nobody is concerned about the whistleblower and the form he used. They have Trump's own words and actions.

 

Here's the bottom line, Trump Lovers never hold their hero in the White House accountable.

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Prior to the current “whistleblower complaint” the Intelligence Community Inspector General did not accept whistle-blower claims without first hand knowledge.  However, the ICIG revised the protocol in August 2019 allowing for the EXACT type of complaint now registered from the CIA whistleblower.

 

The IGIC revision was made at the same time HPSCI Chairman Adam Schiff was tweeting in August about President Trump, Rudy Giuliani and holding back funding pending assistance with political opponents.  Note the Date: (link)

 

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When you control the process it's easy to change the rules...

 

Why was the form changed in August to no long require "First Hand Knowledge" of the event as opposed to "Hearsay"?

 

When the Mueller Probe failed to give the dimms what they wanted the deep state changed the rules of the whistleblower process without any approval of the Congress.  Still think the deep state doesn't exist?  

 

This can work both ways.  

 

Why do we Americans want un-elected un-accountable people pulling all the levers of how our government affects the people...  Think about it.

 

 

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@jimc91 wrote:

 

I believe that many Trump followers are trying to dilute the memo that Trmp himself provided to Congress.
And are now trying to dilute, confuse what the wistleblower did or not t do.
I will remind again. that the wistleblower by itself would probably not poduce the impeachemt  by itself.
Again, it was the MEMO that Trump provided to Congress what is what this impeachment is all about.

Forget the witshtel blower and concentrate on the Memo

Presiden Trump asked the President   of Ukraine to investigat Biden. and that is what is suborning the Co0nstitution. again. to point out anything else is ireelevant and inmaterial.It is becoming a waste of time the amount of deflections, confusiont that many Trump followers are tryhing to inject in any of this.

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

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