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And the Cons continue to defend and/or dismiss the facts/relevance of their hate-filled violence.  Deplorables indeed!


Where have you ever seen a Conservative defend violence? On the other hand there is the left's defense of antifa.


You did it right here in this thread when you said, "Mr. Ba Tran, etal, it just goes to show the effects of the left wing take over of universities and refusal to allow for openness in dialogue - hey, they applaud antifa shutting down any "unapproved" speech.

 

Granted, the guy (Adkins) is a nut job but it is the environment that tipped him over the edge.

 

I look forward to an op/ed dealing with that aspect of the violence in our nation these days."

 

You are defending right-wing terrorism (violence) when you blame it on anything or anyone other than the right-wing terrorist.


Asking for balance in reporting is hardly "defending". 


 Blaming a made up "left wing takeover of universities" to defend a machete attack on people of a differing political affiliation is hardly asking for balance in reporting.


I agree - the guy is a nutjob easily tipped over the edge. However, we must understand the situation at many universities that would make one not "left" to the approved degree either very uncomfortable or, as with this guy, primed for violence.

 

You are right, Adkins is one issue and asking Mr. Ba Tron etal for balanced reporting is another. They are only related in Ba Tron etal's post.

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Mr. Ba Tran, etal, it just goes to show the effects of the left wing take over of universities and refusal to allow for openness in dialogue - hey, they applaud antifa shutting down any "unapproved" speech. Universities have the right to refuse to host hate speech gatherings on their property. I haven't seem a university "applaud" antifa, but actually all (real) Americans should applaud universities not allowing white supremacist hate speeches on their property.

 

Granted, the guy (Adkins) is a nut job but it is the environment that tipped him over the edge. Actually only those "tipped over the edge would think that universities should allow white supremacist hate speeches on their property

 

I look forward to an op/ed dealing with that aspect of the violence in our nation these days.  Just follow the favorite far right white supremacist source of your choice and you'll eventually see one.


 


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@rk9152 wrote:

@Cirice wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@Centristsin2010 wrote:

And the Cons continue to defend and/or dismiss the facts/relevance of their hate-filled violence.  Deplorables indeed!


Where have you ever seen a Conservative defend violence? On the other hand there is the left's defense of antifa.


You did it right here in this thread when you said, "Mr. Ba Tran, etal, it just goes to show the effects of the left wing take over of universities and refusal to allow for openness in dialogue - hey, they applaud antifa shutting down any "unapproved" speech.

 

Granted, the guy (Adkins) is a nut job but it is the environment that tipped him over the edge.

 

I look forward to an op/ed dealing with that aspect of the violence in our nation these days."

 

You are defending right-wing terrorism (violence) when you blame it on anything or anyone other than the right-wing terrorist.


Asking for balance in reporting is hardly "defending". 


 Blaming a made up "left wing takeover of universities" to defend a machete attack on people of a differing political affiliation is hardly asking for balance in reporting.

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Yep, Conservatism will destroy humanity - Nope; just democracy!  But thanks for your concern....


Conservatism defines Democracy. You are most welcome...

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@rk9152 wrote:

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And the Cons continue to defend and/or dismiss the facts/relevance of their hate-filled violence.  Deplorables indeed!


Where have you ever seen a Conservative defend violence? On the other hand there is the left's defense of antifa.


Let's start with the Orange Toad defending the Nazi who ran over counter protesters at the Nazi rally in Charlottesville.

 

Then we can reprise all Toads pronouncements for his followers to "beat the crap out of them" in reference to those protesting his liefest.

 

Or perhaps the Republican who intoned that a "bad" election result could be fixed with a "2d Amendment remedy". Or more recently the one who was joyful at the prospect of attending a lynching.

 

And of course the unending chorus of GOPers insisting they continue to be allowed to provide undiagnosed psychopaths with military weaponry that puts the MASS into Mass Murder.


You are off to a bad start - toads do not speak.

 

Then there is C'Ville - no one on my side of the street defended either side of the trouble makers. Except for calling Nazi's "good people" you mean. No, the President never did that I mean.

 

As to "beating the bleep out of them" - that was President Trump, not your imaginary "toad". A strong statement - true. But remember he was referring to people disrupting (often paid to do so) the gathering of people they disagreed with. "Free speech" and "disrupting" are two different terms having two separate meanings. Toad's real and with him as POTUS "free speech" is imaginary. Free speech is alive and well. Look at you calling the President of the United States a "toad".  That's not only freedom of speech but also freedom from standards.

 

I believe you are referring to the "public lynching" term who the lefties seem to have decided belongs in the lexicon of only some people totally based on their race. Sounds a bit racist - no? No - it's a quote from a Republican Senate candidate. Yes it is - your point?

 

I have heard no support for arming MASS murders. As to "undiagnosed psychopaths" - how does one know who is a psychopath without diagnosis? You catch him slaughtering babies and their teachers with military weapons the NRA insist he be allowed to have. Republicans think he just needs some help with his mental problems, but they are the reason we have virtually NO residential treatment centers available to the general public. What do you want - suspected nut jobs all locked away if they are "undiagnosed". WOW!! Talk about Nazis!!!


 


 

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Yep, Conservatism will destroy humanity - Nope; just democracy!  But thanks for your concern....


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@rk9152 wrote:

@Centristsin2010 wrote:

And the Cons continue to defend and/or dismiss the facts/relevance of their hate-filled violence.  Deplorables indeed!


Where have you ever seen a Conservative defend violence? On the other hand there is the left's defense of antifa.


Let's start with the Orange Toad defending the Nazi who ran over counter protesters at the Nazi rally in Charlottesville.

 

Then we can reprise all Toads pronouncements for his followers to "beat the crap out of them" in reference to those protesting his liefest.

 

Or perhaps the Republican who intoned that a "bad" election result could be fixed with a "2d Amendment remedy". Or more recently the one who was joyful at the prospect of attending a lynching.

 

And of course the unending chorus of GOPers insisting they continue to be allowed to provide undiagnosed psychopaths with military weaponry that puts the MASS into Mass Murder.


You are off to a bad start - toads do not speak.

 

Then there is C'Ville - no one on my side of the street defended either side of the trouble makers. Except for calling Nazi's "good people" you mean.

 

As to "beating the bleep out of them" - that was President Trump, not your imaginary "toad". A strong statement - true. But remember he was referring to people disrupting (often paid to do so) the gathering of people they disagreed with. "Free speech" and "disrupting" are two different terms having two separate meanings. Toad's real and with him as POTUS "free speech" is imaginary.

 

I believe you are referring to the "public lynching" term who the lefties seem to have decided belongs in the lexicon of only some people totally based on their race. Sounds a bit racist - no? No - it's a quote from a Republican Senate candidate.

 

I have heard no support for arming MASS murders. As to "undiagnosed psychopaths" - how does one know who is a psychopath without diagnosis? You catch him slaughtering babies and their teachers with military weapons the NRA insist he be allowed to have. Republicans think he just needs some help with his mental problems, but they are the reason we have virtually NO residential treatment centers available to the general public.


 

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With a single "spur of the moment" execption, ALL the violence has come from the Right for the last 50 years.

 

Most is nurtured by their Propaganda Ministry - FOX and H8 Radio. These fountains of bile provide absurd conspiracy theories that make their listeners THINK they're the only ones "in the know", and the rest of the speil drives these lofos to homicidal rage - shooting up black churches, CW concerts, shopping malls and schools.

 

We can fix this by reenstating the Fairness Doctrine, with additional some language to cover the internet.

 

We can reenstate the Fairness Doctrine by getting rid of the elected GOPers, which will also allow us to work to avoid the devistation of Civilization the Republicans think is preferable to taxing the Uberrich.

 

Good goal for 2020 - Save Democracy, end political violence, leave a habitable country for the grandkids.

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@rk9152 wrote:

@Centristsin2010 wrote:

And the Cons continue to defend and/or dismiss the facts/relevance of their hate-filled violence.  Deplorables indeed!


Where have you ever seen a Conservative defend violence? On the other hand there is the left's defense of antifa.


Let's start with the Orange Toad defending the Nazi who ran over counter protesters at the Nazi rally in Charlottesville.

 

Then we can reprise all Toads pronouncements for his followers to "beat the crap out of them" in reference to those protesting his liefest.

 

Or perhaps the Republican who intoned that a "bad" election result could be fixed with a "2d Amendment remedy". Or more recently the one who was joyful at the prospect of attending a lynching.

 

And of course the unending chorus of GOPers insisting they continue to be allowed to provide undiagnosed psychopaths with military weaponry that puts the MASS into Mass Murder.


You are off to a bad start - toads do not speak.

 

Then there is C'Ville - no one on my side of the street defended either side of the trouble makers.

 

As to "beating the bleep out of them" - that was President Trump, not your imaginary "toad". A strong statement - true. But remember he was referring to people disrupting (often paid to do so) the gathering of people they disagreed with. "Free speech" and "disrupting" are two different terms having two separate meanings.

 

I believe you are referring to the "public lynching" term who the lefties seem to have decided belongs in the lexicon of only some people totally based on their race. Sounds a bit racist - no?

 

I have heard no support for arming MASS murders. As to "undiagnosed psychopaths" - how does one know who is a psychopath without diagnosis?

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Nixon put bigots and racists front and center in the GOP with his "Southern Strategy" and now Der Trumper is putting his support behind Nazi's KKK and White Supremacists who happen to be behind virtually all the xenophobic violence in America. The 2018 election was a good start, and proved we CAN remove racists from office, even in the deep Red America.

 

If the Dems can register (or re-register) more voters than the GOPers disenfranchise with their purges of voting rolls, the racist, sexist, cryptochristian scum can be scrubbed from office and we can get back to making America better for ALL her people in 2020 and undo the Gerrymanders in 2021.

 

That will leave us barely enough time to reverse climate change, but with Republicans able to stop that effort, civilization is doomed.


Yep, Conservatism will destroy humanity - only Socialism can save the day.


Proving once again, to at least one Conservative posting here, there is no grey area with anything.....it's either black or white, one extreme or the other.  No gray.....it's an extremely limiting way to "think".


It is very difficult to consider grey areas when exchanging thoughts with a poster who thinks in terms of GOPerDupes, GOPerLords, Oligarchs, cryptochristians, and refers to all Republicans as racists, sexists, homophobes, white supremacists, and the rest.

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