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Mr. Ba Tran, etal, it just goes to show the effects of the left wing take over of universities and refusal to allow for openness in dialogue - hey, they applaud antifa shutting down any "unapproved" speech. Universities have the right to refuse to host hate speech gatherings on their property. I haven't seem a university "applaud" antifa, but actually all (real) Americans should applaud universities not allowing white supremacist hate speeches on their property. Yes they do. They have the right to ban any speaker to the right of Che Guevara. But is that they way things should be in colleges where minds are supposed to be opened, not closed? It was our left that cheered antifa. Yep, they have the right to ban hate and white supremacist speech form their property, even though you seem to be insulted by that. It was our right that defend the KKK's right to white supremacist hate speech.

 

Granted, the guy (Adkins) is a nut job but it is the environment that tipped him over the edge. Actually only those "tipped over the edge" would think that universities should allow white supremacist hate speeches on their property What "white supremacist hate speeches" are you referring to as applies to Adkins?

 

I look forward to an op/ed dealing with that aspect of the violence in our nation these days.  Just follow the favorite far right white supremacist source of your choice and you'll eventually see one. I guess so, the MSM is certainly not going to offer such unbiased reporting. So, I'll have to go to those "white supremacist sources" (by your warped definition) like Fox or that "fundie" thing in DC. You won't see fox telling you the truth that almost every terrorist act of mass killings in America over the last 15 years has been committed by white males, most all of which are right wing and in some instances trump supporters.


 


 


 


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Clearing this up for those who are upset about upswing in hate crimes in the US.   The majority of white nationalists crimes, crimes against Jewish people, threats against African Americans ,threats and murders against members of the LGBTQIA, Muslims , Sihks, etc are members people that are being given a free pass by Donald and his followers.      The evangelicals that complain about these minorities are also part of team Donald.    

 

I am a supporter of the President - which killer did I give a pass to?  The Saudi "Prince" When was that??  When you posted, "I am a supporter of the President"!  Less than a day ago, but thanks for asking.

 

I fully understand that painted swastikas are not a positive for society and am fully aware of their intentions in painting them. Really?  Please do share...... Really!  Yes!

 

The topic is the Right-wing Hate and subsequent violence that many Righties embrace. No that is a false premise that you cling to.  Wrong again!  Look at the topic and who you embrace....the same guy the right-wing haters embrace.

 

An interesting Fronline piece was recently aired.....you can see it here if you'd like:

 

Inside a Neo-Nazi Group With Members Tied to the U.S. Military

 

Documenting Hate: New American Nazis

 

Brothers Whom Authorities Linked to Pittsburgh Shooting Suspect Had Flyer Supporting Neo-Nazi Group,...

 

An Atomwaffen Member Sketched a Map to Take the Neo-Nazis Down. What Path Officials Took Is a Myster...

 

One Right-wing extremist said that when trump said, "Make American Great Again", they all knew he was saying, "Make America White Again".  Yet some continually deny it.... I hardly think that you are able to mind read the President's meaning. NEWS FLASH.....I'm not a right-wing extremist.   Obviously, you didn't bother viewing the\reports.....it's to be expected....On the other hand, anyone can interpret anything to mean whatever they want. As you do when you whine about those with great disdain with trump.  That does not make it so. Agreed.....just as you do each day.  Here's an Obama quote, "If you're walking down the right path and you're willing to keep walking, eventually you'll make progress" - and we all know that means the path to Socialism.  Only to those with bigoted beliefs......

 

And it's noted, that the disdain MOST Americans have for your fascist wanna-be leader, isn't addressed.  Why is that?  They haven't murdered anyone. I do not have a fascist wanna-be leader How do you know?  so there is no meaning there.  Plenty of meaning, regardless whether you see it or not.

 

Some just prefer denial and denying everything.....


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@Centristsin2010 wrote:

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Clearing this up for those who are upset about upswing in hate crimes in the US.   The majority of white nationalists crimes, crimes against Jewish people, threats against African Americans ,threats and murders against members of the LGBTQIA, Muslims , Sihks, etc are members people that are being given a free pass by Donald and his followers.      The evangelicals that complain about these minorities are also part of team Donald.    

 

I am a supporter of the President - which killer did I give a pass to?  The Saudi "Prince" When was that??

 

I fully understand that painted swastikas are not a positive for society and am fully aware of their intentions in painting them. Really?  Please do share...... Really!

 

The topic is the Right-wing Hate and subsequent violence that many Righties embrace. No that is a false premise that you cling to.

 

An interesting Fronline piece was recently aired.....you can see it here if you'd like:

 

Inside a Neo-Nazi Group With Members Tied to the U.S. Military

 

Documenting Hate: New American Nazis

 

Brothers Whom Authorities Linked to Pittsburgh Shooting Suspect Had Flyer Supporting Neo-Nazi Group,...

 

An Atomwaffen Member Sketched a Map to Take the Neo-Nazis Down. What Path Officials Took Is a Myster...

 

One Right-wing extremist said that when trump said, "Make American Great Again", they all knew he was saying, "Make America White Again".  Yet some continually deny it.... I hardly think that you are able to mind read the President's meaning. On the other hand, anyone can interpret anything to mean whatever they want. That does not make it so. Here's an Obama quote, "If you're walking down the right path and you're willing to keep walking, eventually you'll make progress" - and we all know that means the path to Socialism.

 

And it's noted, that the disdain MOST Americans have for your fascist wanna-be leader, isn't addressed.  Why is that?  They haven't murdered anyone. I do not have a fascist wanna-be leader so there is no meaning there.


 

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@rk9152 wrote:

@afisher wrote:

Clearing this up for those who are upset about upswing in hate crimes in the US.   The majority of white nationalists crimes, crimes against Jewish people, threats against African Americans ,threats and murders against members of the LGBTQIA, Muslims , Sihks, etc are members people that are being given a free pass by Donald and his followers.      The evangelicals that complain about these minorities are also part of team Donald.    

 

I am a supporter of the President - which killer did I give a pass to?  The Saudi "Prince"

 

I fully understand that painted swastikas are not a positive for society and am fully aware of their intentions in painting them. Really?  Please do share......

 

The topic is the Right-wing Hate and subsequent violence that many Righties embrace.

 

An interesting Fronline piece was recently aired.....you can see it here if you'd like:

 

Inside a Neo-Nazi Group With Members Tied to the U.S. Military

 

Documenting Hate: New American Nazis

 

Brothers Whom Authorities Linked to Pittsburgh Shooting Suspect Had Flyer Supporting Neo-Nazi Group,...

 

An Atomwaffen Member Sketched a Map to Take the Neo-Nazis Down. What Path Officials Took Is a Myster...

 

One Right-wing extremist said that when trump said, "Make American Great Again", they all knew he was saying, "Make America White Again".  Yet some continually deny it....

 

And it's noted, that the disdain MOST Americans have for your fascist wanna-be leader, isn't addressed.  Why is that?  They haven't murdered anyone.


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   Clearing this up for those who are upset about upswing in hate crimes in the US.   The majority of white nationalists crimes, crimes against Jewish people, threats against African Americans ,threats and murders against members of the LGBTQIA, Muslims , Sihks, etc are members people that are being given a free pass by Donald and his followers.      The evangelicals that complain about these minorities are also part of team Donald.    

 

I am a supporter of the President - which killer did I give a pass to?

 

I fully understand that painted swastikas are not a positive for society and am fully aware of their intentions in painting them. Your point??

 

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Where have you ever seen a Conservative defend violence? On the other hand there is the left's defense of antifa.


You did it right here in this thread when you said, "Mr. Ba Tran, etal, it just goes to show the effects of the left wing take over of universities and refusal to allow for openness in dialogue - hey, they applaud antifa shutting down any "unapproved" speech.

 

Granted, the guy (Adkins) is a nut job but it is the environment that tipped him over the edge.

 

I look forward to an op/ed dealing with that aspect of the violence in our nation these days."

 

You are defending right-wing terrorism (violence) when you blame it on anything or anyone other than the right-wing terrorist.


Asking for balance in reporting is hardly "defending". 


 Blaming a made up "left wing takeover of universities" to defend a machete attack on people of a differing political affiliation is hardly asking for balance in reporting.


I agree - the guy is a nutjob easily tipped over the edge. However, we must understand the situation at many universities that would make one not "left" to the approved degree either very uncomfortable or, as with this guy, primed for violence.

 

You are right, Adkins is one issue and asking Mr. Ba Tron etal for balanced reporting is another. They are only related in Ba Tron etal's post.


I'm not aware of any universities that require a certain degree of "leftness" for admission. Anyone can be admitted to any university, provided they have the proper qualifications.

 

Anyway, Mitchell Adkins wasn't the only republican at Transylvania University. But rather than making friends with like-minded people, he just got all butthurt about the students that didn't agree with his politics and decided that a machete attack would be a great way to bring everyone around to his way of thinking.

 

I'm just wondering what you think is biased in the MSM reporting of this situation.


The issue wasn't admissions it was the taught and encouraged political slant.

 

Adkins was a time bomb waiting to be ignited and went off. That is not reflective of Conservative ideology.

 

I'm just wondering where your wondering about MSM came from.

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   Clearing this up for those who are upset about upswing in hate crimes in the US.   The majority of white nationalists crimes, crimes against Jewish people, threats against African Americans ,threats and murders against members of the LGBTQIA, Muslims , Sihks, etc are members people that are being given a free pass by Donald and his followers.      The evangelicals that complain about these minorities are also part of team Donald.    

    While some seem to take affront to being lumped into supporters of those hate mongering groups,  certainly support the current WH regime.     They are looking for exceptions by wanting to stay aloof - aka condoning by saying silent.     Apparently some GOP voters, while they overlook at the racism, etc want those sorts of people to represent them.    They are running for cover and attempting to hide in plain sight.

 

    None of which works especially as Right-Wing crime is on the upswing.    The seek solace from RW sites that attempt to use minimalistic terms for their comfort and are trying to sell that here.   Apparently, few are buying those excuses.    How many swastikas need to be painted in your city before you recognize that white nationalists are attempting overt intimidation of "others"?  

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@Cirice wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

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Where have you ever seen a Conservative defend violence? On the other hand there is the left's defense of antifa.


You did it right here in this thread when you said, "Mr. Ba Tran, etal, it just goes to show the effects of the left wing take over of universities and refusal to allow for openness in dialogue - hey, they applaud antifa shutting down any "unapproved" speech.

 

Granted, the guy (Adkins) is a nut job but it is the environment that tipped him over the edge.

 

I look forward to an op/ed dealing with that aspect of the violence in our nation these days."

 

You are defending right-wing terrorism (violence) when you blame it on anything or anyone other than the right-wing terrorist.


Asking for balance in reporting is hardly "defending". 


 Blaming a made up "left wing takeover of universities" to defend a machete attack on people of a differing political affiliation is hardly asking for balance in reporting.


I agree - the guy is a nutjob easily tipped over the edge. However, we must understand the situation at many universities that would make one not "left" to the approved degree either very uncomfortable or, as with this guy, primed for violence.

 

You are right, Adkins is one issue and asking Mr. Ba Tron etal for balanced reporting is another. They are only related in Ba Tron etal's post.


I'm not aware of any universities that require a certain degree of "leftness" for admission. Anyone can be admitted to any university, provided they have the proper qualifications.

 

Anyway, Mitchell Adkins wasn't the only republican at Transylvania University. But rather than making friends with like-minded people, he just got all butthurt about the students that didn't agree with his politics and decided that a machete attack would be a great way to bring everyone around to his way of thinking.

 

I'm just wondering what you think is biased in the MSM reporting of this situation.


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The lies...

 

Of course I'll respect you in the morning...

 

trump never dogwhistled anything racist...

 

Native born white males didn't commit the majority of mass murders since 9/11/2001...

 

Native born white males aren't the greatest terrorist threat in the USA today...

 

Of course you can believe trump...

 

 

He is useless on top of the ground - he should be under it - inspiring the cabbages... Mark Twain 1894 - APPLIES TO TRUMP TODAY
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Mr. Ba Tran, etal, it just goes to show the effects of the left wing take over of universities and refusal to allow for openness in dialogue - hey, they applaud antifa shutting down any "unapproved" speech. Universities have the right to refuse to host hate speech gatherings on their property. I haven't seem a university "applaud" antifa, but actually all (real) Americans should applaud universities not allowing white supremacist hate speeches on their property. Yes they do. They have the right to ban any speaker to the right of Che Guevara. But is that they way things should be in colleges where minds are supposed to be opened, not closed? It was our left that cheered antifa.

 

Granted, the guy (Adkins) is a nut job but it is the environment that tipped him over the edge. Actually only those "tipped over the edge would think that universities should allow white supremacist hate speeches on their property What "white supremacist hate speeches" are you referring to as applies to Adkins?

 

I look forward to an op/ed dealing with that aspect of the violence in our nation these days.  Just follow the favorite far right white supremacist source of your choice and you'll eventually see one. I guess so, the MSM is certainly not going to offer such unbiased reporting. So, I'll have to go to those "white supremacist sources" (by your warped definition) like Fox or that "fundie" thing in DC.


 


 

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