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Talking about race isn't racist.  You just want the conversation to stop so that you can enjoy the status quo.    Won't happen.

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I never said that term was racist. I said the policy choices were.


The policy is intended to deal with illegal immigrants - how is that racist?


Because it's NOT a policy that is meant to actually deal with illegal immigrants.  It's either stupid, or it's deliberately meant to rile up Trump's racist base, playing on their fears of losing their culture. Of course it is. Let's consider the realities.

 

Policymaking 101:

 

First you identify the problem: Illegal immigration, or illegal immigrants, or both? Strange question - one causes the other. Stop the first, you solve the second. They are not separate issues.

 

 

 


 


Illegal immigrants who are already in the country, and new people crossing the border, are two very different (although related) issues, that require completely different approaches.  If you think closing the borders will magically make the 11 million who are here disappear, well then, I can't help you. 

 

 

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@CriticalThinkingwrote:

Typical comment from a Trump Cult member, " As for the Mexican border, illegal immigration is at it's lowest point in decades Thank you President Trump.

 

As usual, Trump Lovers live in an alternate reality. The facts are very clear, illegal immigration from Mexico has been going down steadily and significantly for many years, long before Trump took over. 


And that means what - we can ignore the borders? 

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Typical comment from a Trump Cult member, " As for the Mexican border, illegal immigration is at it's lowest point in decades Thank you President Trump.

 

As usual, Trump Lovers live in an alternate reality. The facts are very clear, illegal immigration from Mexico has been going down steadily and significantly for many years, long before Trump took over. 

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@CriticalThinkingwrote:

The last post was another example of fear mongering. 

  • Almost half of all illegal aliens came her legally, but overstayed their visas And should be dealt with.
  • The last thing we need is a wall on the Mexcian border Obviously, we need something. What is your alternate proposal?
  • As for the Mexican border, illegal immigration is at it's lowest point in decades Thank you President Trump.
  • The overwhelming majority of illegal aliens come here to work hard and support their families But illegally.
  • But yes, a small percentage of aliens are thugs, just like a small percentage of Americans are thugs 

 

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The last post was another example of fear mongering. 

  • Almost half of all illegal aliens came her legally, but overstayed their visas
  • The last thing we need is a wall on the Mexcian border
  • As for the Mexican border, illegal immigration is at it's lowest point in decades
  • The overwhelming majority of illegal aliens come here to work hard and support their families
  • But yes, a small percentage of aliens are thugs, just like a small percentage of Americans are thugs
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@Olderscout66wrote:

Der Fuhrer had the Jews now Der Trumper has the immigrants. Hitler committed mass murder on his hated minority, Der Trumper is doing it one at a time by sending people back to be killed by the terror that sent them fleeing to America. His immigration "Courts" are forcing 3-year-old infants to DEFEND THEMSELVES because there's no REQUIREMENT to provide attorneys to the defendants in Immigration Court.

 

His toad Sessions wants the process to move faster, even tho one woman's hearing lasted 3 MINUTES, she lost, was deported, and couple weeks later, the thugs she was running from found and killed her.

 

Lemontop and the NRAGOP could care less - families living peacefully and HONESTLY for years are being torn apart because the toad POTUS needs to divert attention from his criminal administration and feed the blood lust of his moronic base.

 

Hitler told Germany the Jews had "stabbed Germany in the back" and deserved to be punished. Der Trumper and his followers on this blog tell us the Immigrants "rape and murder all across the border states" and deserve to be punished. Hitler built the camps for the exterminations, Der Trumper just sends his victims "back home" to die at the hands of their persecutors.

 

Don't like being compared to Hitler Donnyboy? Stop acting like him!


Since our process calls for hearings, having the capacity of have those hearings in a reasonable time frame is appropriate. What is Hitleresque in the common sense approach?

 

P.S. about your last outpouring of blind hatred, I seriously doubt the President is reading your posts.

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@CriticalThinkingwrote:

Today's Republican Party, led by Donald Trump, is addicted to fear mongering.

  • Muslims
  • Mexican Immigrants
  • Mexican federal judges
  • etc. 

But there's one big exception, Vladimir Putin is not on Trump's list


While today's Democrat Party is lackadaisical regarding securing our border and keeping tabs on potential terrorists.  In fact, with their support of sanctuary states and sanctuary cities, they are supporting illegal aliens that commit crimes and insure more crimes are committed. The thinking is that these illegal aliens will become citizens and support Democrats who will support more illegal entries into our country. The thinking is, there is no thinking by the Democrats.

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Yep, a nation must have borders, but not 'walls'. Should be build a 'wall' around our entire country? I'm sure that some crackpots would say 'yes'.

 

The "wall" is just one of many tools used to secure our borders. Obviously additional tools are needed. If not a structural increase (we already have and have had various structural impediments) - what?


 

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By definition, a nation must have borders. Almost every country has no walls, but the right-wing extremists demand one.  Quite telling.....  I said "borders" not "walls". Your dodge is quite telling. There is nothing "ignoble" about that.  A wall?  Yes there is....  Care to expand on your theory? There is no propaganda verbiage in that. There is nothing right wing in that. It is just reality (sic)(sic?) Reality also indicates that 2/3rds of voters do NOT want a wall. Again, reading seems to be a problem for you - the point was "propaganda verbiage", not polling data.

 

Yet, when one sees these boards as merely a place to insult others, they tend to overlook all that reality.   Like walls aren't necessary and a strong majority doesn't believe a wall is necessary.  Fascists demand a wall. Of course, call people you disagree with "fascists". That special status again.


 


 

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