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Sorry, but that's laughable! They are clearly never Trumpers like CNN and MSNBC. Not credible, they have proven themselves to be extensions of the democrat party.



Try again.

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In 1997, the U.S. government reached an agreement known as the Flores Settlement Agreement, which arose out of Flores v. Reno, a 1987 California case.

 

The Flores settlement also mandates that INS operates with a policy favoring release to a parent, legal guardian, adult relative or licensed program. Upon taking a minor into custody, INS or the licensed program must make and record a prompt and continuous effort toward family reunification and release, as well as maintain up-to-date records of minors held for longer than 72 hours, including biographical information and hearing dates.

 

Detained children may seek judicial review with any U.S. District Court with jurisdiction over the venue to challenge their placement determination or noncompliance of the facility with standards listed in the settlement.

 

The Flores settlement also laid out minimum standards for licensed programs, specifying that these facilities must comply with all applicable state child welfare laws and regulations, as well as all state and local building, fire, health and safety codes.

 

The program must also provide physical care, food, clothing, grooming items, routine medical and dental care, immunizations, medication, an individualized needs assessment for each child, an educational assessment and plan, a statement of religious preferences, an assessment identifying immediate family members in the United States, education services and communication skills, English language training, recreation and leisure time, and access to social work staff and counseling sessions. Visitation and contact with family members regardless of immigration status and family reunification services are also required.

 

Notably, in times of emergency or an influx of immigrants, the government has some leeway in the amount of time a child may be detained. The expanded definition of influx as 130 or more minors could be applied to large arrivals of unaccompanied minors and may impact facility standards and oversight. Because many of the current detention facilities do not comply with the standards in the Flores settlement, the government must release children within 20 days, sometimes to a sponsor in the community or an alternative-to-detention program.

 

http://www.ncsl.org/blog/2018/10/30/unaccompanied-minors-and-the-flores-settlement-agreement-what-to...

 

 

 

 

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    Donald Trump, again, falsely says Obama had family separation policy

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2019/jun/21/donald-trump/donald-trump-again-fals...

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@jimc91 wrote:

Sorry, but that's laughable!  They are clearly never Trumpers like CNN and MSNBC.  Not credible, they have proven themselves to be extensions of the democrat party.

 

Try again.

 

Tell me which of their points you disagree with. 

 

I also continue to point out that IF Obama and Trump had the same policies and the borderlands are a complete mess under Trump....................Trump must be a moron. 


 

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@jimc91 wrote:

However, the federal courts during the Obama administration ruled that the government is prohibited from detaining children for longer than 20 days. Since the 20-day window is generally not long enough to process the detained immigrants, children and their accompanying adults are consequently separated so as not to violate what is referred to as the Flores Settlement Agreement.


 

 

Trump’s assertions about Obama’s immigration policies have been debunked several times by The Post’s Fact Checker. Current and former DHS officials said family separation was rare during the Obama years, and usually only happened if a child’s safety was at risk, The Post reported in April.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/04/10/trump-digs-false-claim-that-he-stopped-obamas-fam...


Sorry, but that's laughable!  They are clearly never Trumpers like CNN and MSNBC.  Not credible, they have proven themselves to be extensions of the democrat party.

 

Try again.

 

 

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@jimc91 wrote:

However, the federal courts during the Obama administration ruled that the government is prohibited from detaining children for longer than 20 days. Since the 20-day window is generally not long enough to process the detained immigrants, children and their accompanying adults are consequently separated so as not to violate what is referred to as the Flores Settlement Agreement.


OOPs. fake news again I am afraid

 

Trump’s assertions about Obama’s immigration policies have been debunked several times by The Post’s Fact Checker. Current and former DHS officials said family separation was rare during the Obama years, and usually only happened if a child’s safety was at risk, The Post reported in April.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/04/10/trump-digs-false-claim-that-he-stopped-obamas-fam...

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However, the federal courts during the Obama administration ruled that the government is prohibited from detaining children for longer than 20 days. Since the 20-day window is generally not long enough to process the detained immigrants, children and their accompanying adults are consequently separated so as not to violate what is referred to as the Flores Settlement Agreement.

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Trump started the family separation policy. That is different. 

 

Trump cut off aid to countries who were holding back the flood. That is different. 

 

Trump had CBP abandon the in country checkpoint stations which sniff for drugs and illegals. That is different. 

 

Trump can't keep staff and has mostly "acting" heads of agencies. That is different. 

 

Trump is trying to spend money on a wall (that won't work) where Obama spent money recruiting and retaining CBP officers. That is different.

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Oddly, CBP did not dump one asyum seeker on our streets under Obama. 

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Democratic Minnesota Rep. Ilhan Omar excused former President Barack Obama for implementing the same immigration and border security policies she has been criticizing President Donald Trump for enforcing.

 

“You know, even now, when we think about policies that are happening at the border, you know, some people will say, ‘Those were Obama’s polices,’ and I say yes and no,” Omar said Wednesday while appearing on BET’s “Black Coffee.”

 

Omar has been an outspoken detractor of Trump’s immigration policies, especially regarding the separation of children and parents after they are detained for illegally crossing the border and entering the United States.

 

However, the federal courts during the Obama administration ruled that the government is prohibited from detaining children for longer than 20 days. Since the 20-day window is generally not long enough to process the detained immigrants, children and their accompanying adults are consequently separated so as not to violate what is referred to as the Flores Settlement Agreement.

 

“[Obama] might have thought that there was an easier path to dealing with the crisis by sort of implementing for a short period of time policies that he couldn’t have the foresight that the next person who was going to come in was going to take it to a monstrous level,” Omar said. “That is sometimes what we get.”

 

“When we open the door, we allow — yeah, you open the door to darkness, a monster will come out,” she continued. “That’s how some of these policies have really deadly impacts on our lives, and some of these policy makers don’t get to worry about that or care about that.” 

“That’s what you get with people like [Democratic California] Sen. [Kamala] Harris and [Former] Secretary [of Housing and Urban Development Julian] Castro,” Omar said. “There are people who are like, ‘Listen, there was this one policy, you voted for it, you championed it. This is now what it means.'”

 

“Like, can we have an accountability for how this was impactful for our communities?” she continued. “We’ve never really gotten that on a national stage at a presidential debate level.”

 

BY:  Molly Prince

 

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TOO FUNNY!!

 

Trump Derangment Syndrome is still running ramphant in the heads of most dimms and never Trumpers!

 

The election was over in 2016!

 

Yeah this is just TOO FUNNY!

 

 

 

 

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