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a government with “a very extreme fundamentalist nationalist and fascist” agenda.

 

That's what Israel was founded on, that's what Zionism is. The attacks on ( non Jews ) started before the creation of Israel and continue to this day.

 

I agree with the sentiment of the article and the intent of the OP, but I can't sugar coat what Israel has done, is doing, and will do.

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Muslims and Jews lived peaceably together for decades. Then Ariel Sharon came along...


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Israel hasn`t lost it`s way. They know their enemy and are more than capable of taking care of themselves. Israel could care less of the author of this topic and his opinion.

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In our Nation there are people who disdain our Founding Fathers and our Constitution thinking although the that neo-Marxism of the Progressive Movement has failed everywhere it has been tried, it can work here under their guidance.


David Grossman is a comparable Israeli who thinks that the answer to terrorist attacks is to form a circle, join hands, and sing "Kumbya" and the terrorists will "see the light" and join them in song.

 

Let's face it, from it's inception Israel has been under attack from it's "neighbors" and internally. It is a miracle and a testament to strength and resolve that it even exists today.

 

Grossman has suffered tragedy in his life. That may have warped his thinking. But what warps the thinking of our posters? Anti-semitism is one option or perhaps someone can offer an alternative.

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As far as I am concerned Israel lost its way, the minute that Netanyahu  took over.

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When I think of Gaza I think of the Warsaw ghetto (Ghetto Warschau).

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EXCERPT FROM "THE DAILY BEAST"

ACCORDING TO A NOTED JEWISH WRITER

 

Decrying the “tragic” trajectory of contemporary Israel, Grossman suggested it is time for a rewrite of the national narrative. But today’s Israeli democracy, he said, is imperiled by a government with “a very extreme fundamentalist nationalist and fascist” agenda.

“They kidnap our present and they will kidnap our future and they make sure that no peace will be possible,” he warned.

In an era in which Zionism is a “dirty word” in Europe and some parts of the United States, said Grossman, he strives to reinforce the abiding reasons for the foundation of the Jewish state.

“I insist on reminding myself and others that the story of the homecoming of the Jewish people to his homeland from all over the world and the reality that was created here against all odds is one of the greatest stories among the other greatest stories of mankind. No lesser than that. What happened later was a distortion,” he said.

‘They kidnap our present and they will kidnap our future and they make sure that no peace will be possible’

Israel, Grossman continued, was created so the Jews may never again be victims. “And look at us now: The strongest military power in the whole region… and yet we regard ourselves as so weak and so dependent on what others will do. Such victims we are still — of our fears, of our history, of the mistakes of our enemy and our future partner.”

In the decades since the Six Day War, the greatness of the story of Israel has been derailed, he said.

“You can see how at a certain moment all our fate as a country shifted to another path, to another track on our train. And we found ourselves in a situation that is so profoundly different from almost all of our history. From a people that is weak and dependent on the good will — and more often on the bad will — of others, a people that had no army, no weapon, no way to defend itself, suddenly we found ourselves as an empire,” Grossman said.

“There was a temptation in the ability to subjugate another people to our will, to our wishes, to dictate their time, their routine, their education. To be able to invade their intimacy whenever we wanted. There was even something erotic about it in the beginning. And it isn’t only that we got used to this situation — we fell in love with the situation,” he said.

Israel’s narrative changed starkly, he said, when “we started to fabricate ideologies that would justify why we must be in this situation, why it’s better for us with all the faults and the problems, why it’s better for us than any other option. And we came to our situation now, which is a tragic situation. I regard it really as a tragedy. We behave in a suicidal way now.”

‘You can see how at a certain moment all our fate as a country shifted to another path, to another track on our train’

He accused the right-wing government of stoking its citizens’ innate fears. Grossman described Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu as a “magician” who “knows how to stir together the real dangers Israel faces… with the echoes of past trauma. And we, as a traumatized community — and we are a traumatized community — are totally helpless in the face of such manipulation,” he said.

According to Grossman, however, there is a palpable resistance in the country’s thriving arts and cultural scene.

“There is an eruption of artistic powers in Israel,” he said, not only in literature, but all media. Even if they aren’t a direct path to peace, the arts are, at least for Grossman, a source of optimism.

“One of the great rewards of writing is it allows you to have a second chance,” said Grossman. “You’re not doomed to experience again and again the same story.”

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