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Are we being told the full story, or is the family attempting to gather sympathy for him?

 

https://www.dailynews.com/2018/06/16/this-wont-be-the-fathers-day-this-la-family-expected-after-ice-...

 

“An ICE spokeswoman has said that Jose Luis Garcia, a 62-year-old Mexican citizen who according to his family was granted legal status under the Reagan administration, has past criminal convictions that make him eligible to be deported. She declined to specify them, citing the agency’s privacy guidelines.”

 

Are we just getting a one-sided sob story from the family?  Of course ICE can't comment and the family knows it.

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One of his grandsons is currently serving abroad with the U.S. Army and it has been “devastating” for him, said his mother, Erika Hernandez.


Jose Luis Garcia, who studied at Van Nuys High School, was 13 when he came to the U.S. from rural Michoacán, Mexico seeking a better life for himself and to help family members he left behind.


After living in the country for nearly 50 years, Jose Luis Garcia is more fluent in English than he is in Spanish, Natalie Garcia said.
“His Spanish is kind of messed up,” she said.
The last time he visited Mexico was nine years ago, when his father passed away.
If he is forced to return, he would be like a tourist or visitor living in the country, his family said.

 

https://www.dailynews.com/2018/06/16/this-wont-be-the-fathers-day-this-la-family-expected-after-ice-...

 

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Whoa! How many years ago was that? Is it being said that this happened recently?

The facts please. 

 

Thank you


I would believe that it was a state offense.   Was he pardoned by the Governor?  A person's conviction record follows him the rest of his life.

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No offense William, but you are not a Trump follower?  statue of limitations don't apply in this case. they will not be able to convict him again for the same crime. that is over. but your record has that conviction. 

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I believe that you missed the complete story. please read from the beginning and see.

The man was convicted of a misdemeanor 20-30 years ago, he is a legal green card holder, he must have pleaded guilty and had to attend Anger Management. that stays in your record as a conviction.

Now, any legal resident knows that there are offenses that can be deportable. meaning a green card holder will loose his  right to be here if  he is conviceted or certain crimes.

Some one in ICE must have gotten a notification about this man and of course they picked  him up. NOw, of course he has rights and if he seeks an attorney he will be able to deal with this issue, fairly easy.  It is very rare that a person is deported because he has a misdemeanor on his record.

Now, to all of those that hold green cards it would be quite intelligent that you seek citizenship. that way, not only you can vote but it won't be very easy to deport you.

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@TxGrandpa2

Whoa! How many years ago was that? Is it being said that this happened recently?

The facts please. 

 

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If this man is here legally, has done nothing illegal,


He has done nothing illegal? Being convicted of domestic violence, a misdeameor is nothing illegal?

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If this man is here legally, has done nothing illegal, why does he need an attorney? What has happened to our concept of innocent until proven guilty. Doesn’t it concern you why trump and ice do not level with us? Because they do not want us to see what they are doing. They are cherry picking (legals no less), and they want to hide their actions in the dark.

If they are so good, why haven’t they gotten rid of the criminals...they’ve had a year and a half? Why are they separating kids from parents? Why won’t they let reporters into detention centers, without it being staged?

The trump gang is operating illegally, 

this is not who we are, this is not the America that we care about. 

 

Please be real

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@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

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Look  a conviction of domestic abuse that was cleared up so many years ago, does not create the deportation of an individual.


From the way the explanation sounded, it wasn't exactly cleared up.  He was convicted. I wouldn't say it was exactly cleared up.


Tx,  he was convicted and had to go to Anger Management, I don't know if it entailed jail time but even if it did. still was only a misdemeanor. and although domestic violence is a deportable offense, in reality is never actually done, The attorneys usually take care of this specially when it happen so many years ago and no other problem has arisen of that nature ever since.

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@rker321 wrote:

Look  a conviction of domestic abuse that was cleared up so many years ago, does not create the deportation of an individual.


From the way the explanation sounded, it wasn't exactly cleared up.  He was convicted. I wouldn't say it was exactly cleared up.

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