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Rk  your ancestors are turning in their graves. if it is true that we are not seeing what happened in the Concentration Camps in Germany there are a lot of similarities.
and that is what is frightening and why many are making the comparisons.
No matter what your political affiliation may be.  there is a moral tenements that cannot be forgotten. 

We cannot under any circumstances make innocent children pay for the mistakes of others.

No matter what, this policy needs to end. find another way to deal with the border, contact the Government of Honduras  and tell them that if they don't crack down on their gangs we will  invade their country and do it for them.

Whatever needs to be done but what is being done today needs to stop. is as simple as that.


The "Right" used to claim we were a "Christian" nation.....

 

And still do. There is nothing in Christianity that says that we are responsible for replacing the government in Honduras.


 


Finally,  you have actually posted a great idea.

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Rk  your ancestors are turning in their graves. if it is true that we are not seeing what happened in the Concentration Camps in Germany there are a lot of similarities.
and that is what is frightening and why many are making the comparisons.
No matter what your political affiliation may be.  there is a moral tenements that cannot be forgotten. 

We cannot under any circumstances make innocent children pay for the mistakes of others.

No matter what, this policy needs to end. find another way to deal with the border, contact the Government of Honduras  and tell them that if they don't crack down on their gangs we will  invade their country and do it for them.

Whatever needs to be done but what is being done today needs to stop. is as simple as that.


The "Right" used to claim we were a "Christian" nation.....

 

And still do. There is nothing in Christianity that says that we are responsible for replacing the government in Honduras.


 

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The bigots will chastise your post and defend any actions of our new fuhrer.


I understand the "fuhrer" is one of the go-to thingies when no rational comment is available. But, think for a moment - were thousands of people sneaking into Nazi Germany illegally??


Another lame straw argument....there weren't the conditions that exist in central  America in France, Italy and other locations in Europe.  Though I'd bet Hitler would be more far more humane than the trump administration.


What is lame and, if you prefer "straw" is the comparison between efforts for secure borders and the Nazi gas chambers. No one mentioned Nazi gas chambers, but you.  So that's rather lame. "fuhrer"

  

I gotta tell ya - "Hitler" is not the answer to everything. No, he wasn't the answer to much other than "Name another dictator that trump emulates." I did not see that question. I did see, "The bigots will chastise your post and defend any actions of our new fuhrer".

 


 

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@rker321 wrote:

Rk  your ancestors are turning in their graves. if it is true that we are not seeing what happened in the Concentration Camps in Germany there are a lot of similarities.
and that is what is frightening and why many are making the comparisons.
No matter what your political affiliation may be.  there is a moral tenements that cannot be forgotten. 

We cannot under any circumstances make innocent children pay for the mistakes of others.

No matter what, this policy needs to end. find another way to deal with the border, contact the Government of Honduras  and tell them that if they don't crack down on their gangs we will  invade their country and do it for them.

Whatever needs to be done but what is being done today needs to stop. is as simple as that.


Why would my ancestors be turning in their grave? 

 

As to concentration camps - many are coming here alone, where do you want them put? And, as to your weird illusion - how many kids have been gassed? BTW - That is not why "many are making the comparison". They are merely allowing the Party line.

 

As to the "moral tenements" - the tenements are in the Bronx, is that where you want the kids sent?

 

Paying the price of others - many are sent here in the care of paid coyotes. Do you really think that it is moral for us to accept responsibility for the parents?

 

And finally, sounds like you want us to be the "policeman of the world" - that is often attacked by you lefties. Yeah, yeah, I know - Republican. That may be your registration but your thinking is definitively left.

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No matter what, this policy needs to end. find another way to deal with the border, contact the Government of Honduras  and tell them that if they don't crack down on their gangs we will  invade their country and do it for them.

 


Are you ready to volunteer to go? 

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@rker321 wrote:

Rk  your ancestors are turning in their graves. if it is true that we are not seeing what happened in the Concentration Camps in Germany there are a lot of similarities.
and that is what is frightening and why many are making the comparisons.
No matter what your political affiliation may be.  there is a moral tenements that cannot be forgotten. 

We cannot under any circumstances make innocent children pay for the mistakes of others.

No matter what, this policy needs to end. find another way to deal with the border, contact the Government of Honduras  and tell them that if they don't crack down on their gangs we will  invade their country and do it for them.

Whatever needs to be done but what is being done today needs to stop. is as simple as that.


The "Right" used to claim we were a "Christian" nation.....


"FAKE 45 #illegitimate" read a sign at the Woman's March in Washington DC, January 21, 2017.
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@rk9152 wrote:

@Centristsin2010 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

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The bigots will chastise your post and defend any actions of our new fuhrer.


I understand the "fuhrer" is one of the go-to thingies when no rational comment is available. But, think for a moment - were thousands of people sneaking into Nazi Germany illegally??


Another lame straw argument....there weren't the conditions that exist in central  America in France, Italy and other locations in Europe.  Though I'd bet Hitler would be more far more humane than the trump administration.


What is lame and, if you prefer "straw" is the comparison between efforts for secure borders and the Nazi gas chambers. No one mentioned Nazi gas chambers, but you.  So that's rather lame.

 

I gotta tell ya - "Hitler" is not the answer to everything. No, he wasn't the answer to much other than "Name another dictator that trump emulates."


"FAKE 45 #illegitimate" read a sign at the Woman's March in Washington DC, January 21, 2017.
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So just for grins, law and order, and justice, per this particular immigrant that we have been discussing, within the last 16 years has this man broken any rules or laws?

 

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Rk  your ancestors are turning in their graves. if it is true that we are not seeing what happened in the Concentration Camps in Germany there are a lot of similarities.
and that is what is frightening and why many are making the comparisons.
No matter what your political affiliation may be.  there is a moral tenements that cannot be forgotten. 

We cannot under any circumstances make innocent children pay for the mistakes of others.

No matter what, this policy needs to end. find another way to deal with the border, contact the Government of Honduras  and tell them that if they don't crack down on their gangs we will  invade their country and do it for them.

Whatever needs to be done but what is being done today needs to stop. is as simple as that.

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@ChasKy53 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

The bigots will chastise your post and defend any actions of our new fuhrer.


I understand the "fuhrer" is one of the go-to thingies when no rational comment is available. But, think for a moment - were thousands of people sneaking into Nazi Germany illegally??


Nothing in your reply shows what I posted to be untrue.


Common sense tells us that there is no connectivity between illegal border crossing and Nazi Germany. Over there they may have tried to get out, but certainly not in.

 

So, using the "fuhrer" meme is silly.

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