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They went to Bethlehem in accordance with the law. Hence, just one more emotional but inaccurate example - much like the Sophie's Choice one that another poster hopped right on.


Not being of the Christian faith is quite reasonable that you cannot see the relevatnce  of the picture. in the same manner that Sophies Choice which depicts the choice of a mother and the separation of one of her children and what it means to any women is extremely foreign to you. So very sorry. 


As always, when one starts with a wrong assumption they will usually end with an inaccurate conclusion.

 

Apology accepted. I was taught to be gracious by the Dominican Nuns in the Temple of the Holy Trinity school.

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They went to Bethlehem in accordance with the law. Hence, just one more emotional but inaccurate example - much like the Sophie's Choice one that another poster hopped right on.


Not being of the Christian faith is quite reasonable that you cannot see the relevatnce  of the picture. in the same manner that Sophies Choice which depicts the choice of a mother and the separation of one of her children and what it means to any women is extremely foreign to you. So very sorry. 

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Not blaming President Obama - he did what he could.

His problem then was the same as we have now - a dysfuctional Congress that is so busy arguing amongst themselves - along some party line or allegiance - that they can't or won't solve the problems that we have had for a very long time.

 

I hope people take time away from their Independence Day festivities and think about all the rhetoric and call upon their legislators of all breeds to lock themselves up somewhere and come up with a solution - this isn't a partisan issue - it is an American (USA) issue.

 

Gail, wonderful post. and I really hope that more poepole realize that  the soul of this country is what matters.
There issn't a Party in this world that should matter more thatn our country. Being an Americanis a beautiful thing and a priviledge we should all feel proud of our Democracy and our freedoms. 

 

 

 

 


 

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@mickstuder wrote:

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Not blaming President Obama - he did what he could.

His problem then was the same as we have now - a dysfuctional Congress that is so busy arguing amongst themselves - along some party line or allegiance - that they can't or won't solve the problems that we have had for a very long time.

 

I hope people take time away from their Independence Day festivities and think about all the rhetoric and call upon their legislators of all breeds to lock themselves up somewhere and come up with a solution - this isn't a partisan issue - it is an American (USA) issue.

 

 

 

 


I think this Picture and the accompanying Text is all anyone should require to get the Full Jest of this issue and who is Responsible

 

 

Trump jails holy family.png

 

 

HOLY FAMILY JAILED IN TRUMP CAGE

 

(CNN)A church in Indianapolis has put up a display that shows the statues of Mary, Joseph and baby Jesus in a cage to protest the Trump administration's 'zero tolerance' policy.

 
The nativity statues at the Christ Church Cathedral are enclosed in a chain link fence lined with barbed wire.
 
It's meant to resemble an immigration detention center, the church said.
 
The White House's "zero-tolerance" prosecution policy has resulted in the detention of families caught crossing illegally at the border.
 
Members of the church say the journeys of immigrant families are similar to that of the Holy Family.
 
 Scripture says that Mary, Joseph and the infant Jesus were homeless and fled to Egypt, where they were welcomed, said the church's dean and rector, Steve Carlsen.
 
"That family is every family who are seeking safety for their children," he told CNN.
 
 
 
 
 

They went to Bethlehem in accordance with the law. Hence, just one more emotional but inaccurate example - much like the Sophie's Choice one that another poster hopped right on.

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A powerful photo, and a powerful message by the Indy church. 

And well put mick as to how we did not want a king as a ruler / dictator.

Perhaps a lesson that many could take from this 4th of July...stop believing trump when he tries to convince some people that what is wrong is really right, according to trump. 

Wrong is wrong!

Locking up kids is wrong. 

 

Have compassion

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@GailL1 wrote:

@mickstuder

 

Not blaming President Obama - he did what he could.

His problem then was the same as we have now - a dysfuctional Congress that is so busy arguing amongst themselves - along some party line or allegiance - that they can't or won't solve the problems that we have had for a very long time.

 

I hope people take time away from their Independence Day festivities and think about all the rhetoric and call upon their legislators of all breeds to lock themselves up somewhere and come up with a solution - this isn't a partisan issue - it is an American (USA) issue.

 

 

 

 


I think this Picture and the accompanying Text is all anyone should require to get the Full Jest of this issue and who is Responsible

 

 

Trump jails holy family.png

 

 

HOLY FAMILY JAILED IN TRUMP CAGE

 

(CNN)A church in Indianapolis has put up a display that shows the statues of Mary, Joseph and baby Jesus in a cage to protest the Trump administration's 'zero tolerance' policy.

 
The nativity statues at the Christ Church Cathedral are enclosed in a chain link fence lined with barbed wire.
 
It's meant to resemble an immigration detention center, the church said.
 
The White House's "zero-tolerance" prosecution policy has resulted in the detention of families caught crossing illegally at the border.
 
Members of the church say the journeys of immigrant families are similar to that of the Holy Family.
 
 Scripture says that Mary, Joseph and the infant Jesus were homeless and fled to Egypt, where they were welcomed, said the church's dean and rector, Steve Carlsen.
 
"That family is every family who are seeking safety for their children," he told CNN.
 
 
 
 
 

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Not blaming President Obama - he did what he could.

His problem then was the same as we have now - a dysfuctional Congress that is so busy arguing amongst themselves - along some party line or allegiance - that they can't or won't solve the problems that we have had for a very long time.

 

I hope people take time away from their Independence Day festivities and think about all the rhetoric and call upon their legislators of all breeds to lock themselves up somewhere and come up with a solution - this isn't a partisan issue - it is an American (USA) issue.

 

 

 

 

* * * * It's Always Something . . . Roseanne Roseannadanna
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Gail, here is the interview with the Honduran Official back in 2014...

 

 

 

 

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@GailL1 wrote:

NBC New 07.09.2014 - Undocumented and Unaccompanied: Facts, Figures on Children at the Border

 

Be sure to watch the videos - .

1.  The Detention Areas

2.  The Interview with the Honduran Consulate after he visted the "warehouse"

 

Yes, we have an immigration problem which sometimes leads to actions that aren't completely acceptable.  Now and then - probably sometimes before that too.

 

Right now there are over 11,000 children less than 18 years old in detention custody - and a good many of these are older children and were in detention prior to the current Administration.

 

PBS NewsHour 07/03/2018 - Judy Woodruff - Sophie's Story and an analyis of the procedures and the problems.

 

 

 

 

 Tomorrow Its Actually - Independence Day 2018 - Sure Immigration Policies are debatable & comparable.....................but whats more Important about Independence Day 2018 vs 2014 is there relationship to Independence Day in 1776.........................1776 wasn't about Immigration Policy - it was about Celebrating our Independence from a King - it was about all the Colonies of the New Country adopting the Declaration of Independence...................Tomorrow it will seem as we have actually gone backwards in Time.....we have a President who is assuming more and more power personally and a Congress who is Abdicating their Responsibilities and Failing to Honor the Oath they took.................

 

So Gail - nice attempt at Diversion - but as a American Patriot I humbly suggest all Forum Members agree this Thread should be ignored at least until Friday and then we can go back to trying to Blame Obama for everything Trumps does........................

 

 

 

 

 

 

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NBC New 07.09.2014 - Undocumented and Unaccompanied: Facts, Figures on Children at the Border

 

Be sure to watch the videos - .

1.  The Detention Areas

2.  The Interview with the Honduran Consulate after he visted the "warehouse"

 

Yes, we have an immigration problem which sometimes leads to actions that aren't completely acceptable.  Now and then - probably sometimes before that too.

 

Right now there are over 11,000 children less than 18 years old in detention custody - and a good many of these are older children and were in detention prior to the current Administration.

 

PBS NewsHour 07/03/2018 - Judy Woodruff - Sophie's Story and an analyis of the procedures and the problems.

 

 

 

 

 

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