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@rk9152 wrote:

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Not Jews

 

Not Muslims

 

Not Atheists

 

Christians

 

Source - https://slate.com/human-interest/2018/06/for-right-wing-evangelicals-anthony-kennedys-retirement-is-...

 

 

 Yes, when addressing Christians you call for the protection of Christians. However, as I pointed out, your first attachment referred to Christians, Jews, and Hindus.

 


 


Actually - NO...........

 

My post was in response to this.........

 

I Have Never HEARD ANYone say That - CAN you offER a Reference

 

 

 

 


YES i can - FRom your OWN first POst:

https://www.justice.gov/opa/speech/attorney-general-sessions-delivers-remarks-department-justice-s-r...

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Message 12 of 17

@rk9152 wrote:

@mickstuder wrote:

 

Not Jews

 

Not Muslims

 

Not Atheists

 

Christians

 

Source - https://slate.com/human-interest/2018/06/for-right-wing-evangelicals-anthony-kennedys-retirement-is-...

 

 

 Yes, when addressing Christians you call for the protection of Christians. However, as I pointed out, your first attachment referred to Christians, Jews, and Hindus.

 


 


Actually - NO...........

 

My post was in response to this.........

 

I Have Never HEARD ANYone say That - CAN you offER a Reference

 

 

 

 

( " China if You're Listening - Get Trumps Tax Returns " )

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Message 13 of 17

@mickstuder wrote:

 

Not Jews

 

Not Muslims

 

Not Atheists

 

Christians

 

Source - https://slate.com/human-interest/2018/06/for-right-wing-evangelicals-anthony-kennedys-retirement-is-...

 

 

 Yes, when addressing Christians you call for the protection of Christians. However, as I pointed out, your first attachment referred to Christians, Jews, and Hindus.

 


 

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@rk9152 wrote:

@mickstuder wrote:

Here We Go Again - The Trump Cult Says - We Don't Care What Trump Does As long As he Appoints RW - Christian Finatics to the Supreme Court - it's happening with Roberts - Gorsich and soon Kavanaugh - adding to Thomas and Alito

 

All of sudden now to go along with

ICE rounding up people on our City Streets w/o Due Process

TSA Surveilling Innocent Americans w/o Due Process

 

Now Trump is forming a Religious Police force - because RW Religious Finatics don;t think they already have enough Protection - with a GOP President a GOP House a GOP Senate and a GOP Supreme Court

 

Jeff Sessions' 'religious liberty task force' part of a dangerous Christian nationalist campaign of discrimination

 
Conservative Christians have convinced Trump that they are being oppressed.
 
And LGBT Americans and religious minorities will pay the price.
 

In the Trump administration’s latest effort to deliver on promises to its base, Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced a new “religious liberty task force” at the Department of Justice. Sessions made the announcement at a Religious Liberty Summit, which was backed by Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF).

 

But a closer look at what Sessions and groups like the ADF mean when they talk about “religious liberty” makes clear how both religion and freedom are being redefined by this administration to serve an extreme agenda. It’s time for people who care about the future of democratic society to reclaim the concept of religious liberty.

 

Plenty of Americans still value the separation of church and state and, along with it, the establishment clause’s guarantee of freedom of conscience for all people.

 

Outside the circles of the extreme right, religious liberty has long been a progressive value, celebrated by abolitionists, tax resisters, conscientious objectors and religious minorities alike. So long as an American respects the legal rights of his neighbor, the Constitution promises him the freedom to obey his own conscience when it comes to matters of religious conviction.

 
But when groups like the ADF talk about religious liberty, they are really talking about liberty for one specific religion — Christianity.
 
 
 
The Trump Cult Says - We Don't Care What Trump Does As long As he Appoints RW - Christian Finatics to the Supreme Court 
I Have Never HEARD ANYone say That - CAN you offER a Reference?
 
It is hard to see how an effort to protect all religion (he mentioned Christian, Jewish and Hindu for example) from discrimination can be a problem But then there are those who spend their days looking for something negative to obsess over.
 
 

Sematics

 

The announcement on Wednesday afternoon that Justice Anthony Kennedy will retire from the Supreme Court was

 

a vindication for Trump’s evangelical defenders, who had one message for voters in 2016:

 

Close your eyes and think of the Supreme Court.

 

No matter how a Christian might feel about Trump as a man (the extramarital sex, the mockery of the disabled),

 

they said, he would have a chance to radically reshape the makeup of the Supreme Court.

 

This week, that calculation paid off.

 

It is hard to overstate how relentlessly Trump’s evangelical supporters promoted this message, especially as the campaign staggered toward Election Day.

 

The emergence of the Access Hollywood tapes in October 2016 was widely expected to threaten Trump’s advantage among white evangelicals. A thrice-married casino mogul was one thing, but one whom voters could actually hear bragging about grabbing

 

“Hold your nose and go vote,” evangelist Franklin Graham told about 10,500 attendees at a prayer rally in North Carolina in 2016, circling the wagons after the tapes emerged.

 

“You have to decide which one of the two (presidential candidates) that you would trust to appoint justices that are going to protect our religious freedom as Christians.”

 

Not Jews

 

Not Muslims

 

Not Atheists

 

Christians

 

Source - https://slate.com/human-interest/2018/06/for-right-wing-evangelicals-anthony-kennedys-retirement-is-...

 

 

 

 

( " China if You're Listening - Get Trumps Tax Returns " )

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@mickstuder wrote:

Here We Go Again - The Trump Cult Says - We Don't Care What Trump Does As long As he Appoints RW - Christian Finatics to the Supreme Court - it's happening with Roberts - Gorsich and soon Kavanaugh - adding to Thomas and Alito

 

All of sudden now to go along with

ICE rounding up people on our City Streets w/o Due Process

TSA Surveilling Innocent Americans w/o Due Process

 

Now Trump is forming a Religious Police force - because RW Religious Finatics don;t think they already have enough Protection - with a GOP President a GOP House a GOP Senate and a GOP Supreme Court

 

Jeff Sessions' 'religious liberty task force' part of a dangerous Christian nationalist campaign of discrimination

 
Conservative Christians have convinced Trump that they are being oppressed.
 
And LGBT Americans and religious minorities will pay the price.
 

In the Trump administration’s latest effort to deliver on promises to its base, Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced a new “religious liberty task force” at the Department of Justice. Sessions made the announcement at a Religious Liberty Summit, which was backed by Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF).

 

But a closer look at what Sessions and groups like the ADF mean when they talk about “religious liberty” makes clear how both religion and freedom are being redefined by this administration to serve an extreme agenda. It’s time for people who care about the future of democratic society to reclaim the concept of religious liberty.

 

Plenty of Americans still value the separation of church and state and, along with it, the establishment clause’s guarantee of freedom of conscience for all people.

 

Outside the circles of the extreme right, religious liberty has long been a progressive value, celebrated by abolitionists, tax resisters, conscientious objectors and religious minorities alike. So long as an American respects the legal rights of his neighbor, the Constitution promises him the freedom to obey his own conscience when it comes to matters of religious conviction.

 
But when groups like the ADF talk about religious liberty, they are really talking about liberty for one specific religion — Christianity.
 
 
 
 
 

I use RRRR to mean Radical Religious Right Republicans.  RRR leaves off the religious component.  I stopped using RRR when it became obvious that this crew not only thought it to be their right to introduce religion into the civil arena, but actively use religious cohesion to drive a political agenda.  That's not an actual right, it is an appropriated 'right'.

 

Religion or relgious belief is a right reserved to the individual.  Provided however, that 'right' may not interfere with another's 'rights' in any way.  Civil law produced by a defined civil process takes care of that, not religious doctrine or dogma.  IF followed, that policy 'preserves' rights.  There is a reason religion must be kept separate from politics.

 

Organized religion, with exceptions,  has a problem with that, insisting that everyone must 'do it their way' or suffer the consequences.  Some 'believe' they must proselytize to satisfy religious obligations.  Moreover, far too many think their 'belief' gives them the right to impose that 'belief' on others, however they choose.  Promoting new laws or redefining enforcement of the existing are among the preferred choices.

 

Conservative is not the right word to describe those folk.  Not relative to our Constitution. Radical is.  Conservative, by definition, is disposed toward preservation of the status-quo, agreeing with the idea of gradual rather than abrupt change.  Radical is disposed to use extreme measures to effect direct, drastic, uncompromising and abrupt change across political, economic and social sectors of society...including religion.

 

I know I've said all this before, but in light of the article in your post, I did feel it should be said again.  Accepting destruction of society's institutions, as in progress today, will only result in destruction of the institutions those promoting it hold dear...eventually.  Always has.  Always will.

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@mickstuder wrote:

Here We Go Again - The Trump Cult Says - We Don't Care What Trump Does As long As he Appoints RW - Christian Finatics to the Supreme Court - it's happening with Roberts - Gorsich and soon Kavanaugh - adding to Thomas and Alito

 

All of sudden now to go along with

ICE rounding up people on our City Streets w/o Due Process

TSA Surveilling Innocent Americans w/o Due Process

 

Now Trump is forming a Religious Police force - because RW Religious Finatics don;t think they already have enough Protection - with a GOP President a GOP House a GOP Senate and a GOP Supreme Court

 

Jeff Sessions' 'religious liberty task force' part of a dangerous Christian nationalist campaign of discrimination

 
Conservative Christians have convinced Trump that they are being oppressed.
 
And LGBT Americans and religious minorities will pay the price.
 

In the Trump administration’s latest effort to deliver on promises to its base, Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced a new “religious liberty task force” at the Department of Justice. Sessions made the announcement at a Religious Liberty Summit, which was backed by Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF).

 

But a closer look at what Sessions and groups like the ADF mean when they talk about “religious liberty” makes clear how both religion and freedom are being redefined by this administration to serve an extreme agenda. It’s time for people who care about the future of democratic society to reclaim the concept of religious liberty.

 

Plenty of Americans still value the separation of church and state and, along with it, the establishment clause’s guarantee of freedom of conscience for all people.

 

Outside the circles of the extreme right, religious liberty has long been a progressive value, celebrated by abolitionists, tax resisters, conscientious objectors and religious minorities alike. So long as an American respects the legal rights of his neighbor, the Constitution promises him the freedom to obey his own conscience when it comes to matters of religious conviction.

 
But when groups like the ADF talk about religious liberty, they are really talking about liberty for one specific religion — Christianity.
 
 
 
The Trump Cult Says - We Don't Care What Trump Does As long As he Appoints RW - Christian Finatics to the Supreme Court 
I Have Never HEARD ANYone say That - CAN you offER a Reference?
 
It is hard to see how an effort to protect all religion (he mentioned Christian, Jewish and Hindu for example) from discrimination can be a problem But then there are those who spend their days looking for something negative to obsess over.
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Here We Go Again - The Trump Cult Says - We Don't Care What Trump Does As long As he Appoints RW - Christian Finatics to the Supreme Court - it's happening with Roberts - Gorsich and soon Kavanaugh - adding to Thomas and Alito

 

All of sudden now to go along with

ICE rounding up people on our City Streets w/o Due Process

TSA Surveilling Innocent Americans w/o Due Process

 

Now Trump is forming a Religious Police force - because RW Religious Finatics don;t think they already have enough Protection - with a GOP President a GOP House a GOP Senate and a GOP Supreme Court

 

Jeff Sessions' 'religious liberty task force' part of a dangerous Christian nationalist campaign of discrimination

 
Conservative Christians have convinced Trump that they are being oppressed.
 
And LGBT Americans and religious minorities will pay the price.
 

In the Trump administration’s latest effort to deliver on promises to its base, Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced a new “religious liberty task force” at the Department of Justice. Sessions made the announcement at a Religious Liberty Summit, which was backed by Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF).

 

But a closer look at what Sessions and groups like the ADF mean when they talk about “religious liberty” makes clear how both religion and freedom are being redefined by this administration to serve an extreme agenda. It’s time for people who care about the future of democratic society to reclaim the concept of religious liberty.

 

Plenty of Americans still value the separation of church and state and, along with it, the establishment clause’s guarantee of freedom of conscience for all people.

 

Outside the circles of the extreme right, religious liberty has long been a progressive value, celebrated by abolitionists, tax resisters, conscientious objectors and religious minorities alike. So long as an American respects the legal rights of his neighbor, the Constitution promises him the freedom to obey his own conscience when it comes to matters of religious conviction.

 
But when groups like the ADF talk about religious liberty, they are really talking about liberty for one specific religion — Christianity.
 
 
 
 
 

( " China if You're Listening - Get Trumps Tax Returns " )

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