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How about we end bank robbery by putting signs outside of banks saying, "Come on in and take what you want".

 

And then there is prostitution. Hire a bunch of young ladies with signs saying, "Name it - you got it".

 

Sorry rich - it just isn't rational. 


I expected the folks trying to stop women from having the procedure to avoid any personal expense or inconvenience.  Just making a point. 


But think of it this way - she let some dude have his way with her or is raped, hopefully enjoying it (both sides or one for the rape). Why should the result be either others pay for the outcome of their  (or his) pleasure of kill the baby?

 

Hardly seems right.


Well, that’s a disgustingly sexist post.


But of course it is ........... did you expect anything different?


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How about we end bank robbery by putting signs outside of banks saying, "Come on in and take what you want".

Replace "bank" with "The U.S. Treasury" and Trump has basically done that for the wealthy!

 

And then there is prostitution. Hire a bunch of young ladies with signs saying, "Name it - you got it".

Trump would be first in line ..... a whole lot cheaper than the $130,000 he has paid to keep "young ladies" quiet!

 

But, do you see the point?



No ........... I'm more rational than that.


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@rk9152 wrote:

How about we end bank robbery by putting signs outside of banks saying, "Come on in and take what you want".

 

And then there is prostitution. Hire a bunch of young ladies with signs saying, "Name it - you got it".

 

Sorry rich - it just isn't rational. 


How about a Go Fund Me Page being started by those so compassionate about Right To Life to pay for the expenses incurred?  You know, like the Go Fund Me Page for trump's Vanity Wall?

 

Comparing abortion to bank robbing and prostitution is puzzling in understanding where someone's head is at.


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But think of it this way - she let some dude have his way with her or is raped, hopefully enjoying it (both sides or one for the rape). Why should the result be either others pay for the outcome of their  (or his) pleasure of kill the baby?

 

Hardly seems right.


I have seen many idiotic responses and this one takes the cake.
NOt all pregnancies are due to rape or incest. Most  happen, in very normal circumstances. and many cannot be helped with all the things that Gail has mentioned. please do buy a book on Anatomy of the female organs and learn.

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Wow. Cheering for a rapist to enjoy their crime. Typical GOP mindset. No wonder the GOP embraces pedophiles - all is well and hopefully it felt good raping that 11 year old girl. Guess the GOP needs a hobby when not practicing their hate and racism.

 

 

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/ (13 pages of lies and growing)
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I know of no effort to limit access to birth control What are you ranting about now?

 

And,as always, you are trying to turn this into a class-envy topic. 

 

It is not about the body of the women - it is about the bodies of separate entities.


If they believe the fertilized egg is a human being, why are they not protesting outside fertilization clinics who through out hundreds of these fertilized eggs each day? The only difference are the eggs in a woman's body. 

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@ManicProgressive wrote:

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@rk9152 wrote:

How about we end bank robbery by putting signs outside of banks saying, "Come on in and take what you want".

 

And then there is prostitution. Hire a bunch of young ladies with signs saying, "Name it - you got it".

 

Sorry rich - it just isn't rational. 


I expected the folks trying to stop women from having the procedure to avoid any personal expense or inconvenience.  Just making a point. 


But think of it this way - she let some dude have his way with her or is raped, hopefully enjoying it (both sides or one for the rape). Why should the result be either others pay for the outcome of their  (or his) pleasure of kill the baby?

 

Hardly seems right.


Well, that’s a disgustingly sexist post.

 

What is sexist? - that's the way it happens - surely you remember.


 


“Letting” a man “have his way with her?”  

 

Rapists enjoy raping? 

 

No, not sexist at all. 🤔

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I can't believe no one thought of this.  Just stand outside a Woman's health clinic with a sign that says "I will pay for all your prenatal medical expense and either adopt or financially support the resulting child. 

 

I bet you would have more takers than you can handle. 


I don't think so -  It does not seem to be the economics of the problem that is the deciding factor - Course it doesn't seem to be the easier, softer way either -

 

The easier, softer way would be to be on birth control.
Then if one doubts if it worked or if it wasn't in use, due to some poor planning,  there is Plan B (emergency contraception) available the next couple of days - the sooner the better.  No Rx - it is OTC.  You take it just to be sure that pregnancy is not a result of the soon-past passion.

 

Then if those might not work and you begin to feel pregnant in the next couple of weeks; affirm by a pregnancy test, also readily available - RU486 is available with an Rx. after pregnancy is confirmed by the doc.  A couple of pills, some minor discomfort and Wah-Lah - 

  • adiós, adieu, addio, adeus. ...
  • aloha. ...
  • arrivederci. ...
  • ciao. ...
  • auf Wiedersehen. ...
  • au revoir. ...
  • bon voyage. ...
  • sayonara.

IOW - DONE !!! And ALL without having to go to another place, plan it, to get a more invasive procedure.

 

Now with all these methods of pretty much immediate handling of the problem - why wait ????

Is it a matter of time management, indecision or just plain procrastination, hoping that it is just a bad dream and it will go away.  Is it just a power thing - I want it, I want it when I want it.?

 

P.S. actually we did pay for all those things and more when we adopted our daughter - I could not have kids due to a bad result to an abortion before Roe vs Wade.

 

With the above early choices - why not leave the invasive procedure to those who had no other choice because of some medical problem with mother / baby.   Yes, I think the reason is important as well as the timing. 

 

I believe that women should have the choice - but they don't get the timing since we have ways to handle it pretty much immediately - they just need to act - since they know what caused it.

 

WP 05/30/2019 - Miracle ! A 23 weeker - World's Smallest Surviving Baby Goes Home

 

 

 

 


You're very close, but no cigar. The Republicans are not only working to end surgical abortions, they also work to limit access to birth control (beyond telling women to not have sex.)

 

For the GOPerLords, it has NOTHING to do with saving babies - the fact they refuse to support the child once it's born is proof positive of that fact. It's about POWER, and they give the power to Fundie nutjobs by supporting policies that make having sex a crime punishable by increased poverty and even death if you're a poor woman. They know nothing they do will have the slightest affect on wealthy women, or the children of wealthy parents - they will continue to get abortions in elegant surroundings far away from protesters throwing blood on them or blowing up them and their doctors.

 

It's all about giving POWER to Fundamentalist nutjobs by using the power of Government to harm poor women and their families. Nobody on the GOP side thinks their crusade against women's controlling their bodies will end abortions - they know it will only end SAFE abortions, and that's just fine with them - they want to PUNISH poor women who have sex, and that is all their legislation will ever accomplish.

 

The only solution is to take power away from the GOP so they cannot use it to harm the poor and make Fundies even more smug.


I know of no effort to limit access to birth control What are you ranting about now?

 

And,as always, you are trying to turn this into a class-envy topic. 

 

It is not about the body of the women - it is about the bodies of separate entities.

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How to stop abortions in America

 

 

Family planning clinics and birth control pills, while women are in seeing the doctor they can get a medical check up and cancer screening.


Agreed.

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How about we end bank robbery by putting signs outside of banks saying, "Come on in and take what you want".

 

And then there is prostitution. Hire a bunch of young ladies with signs saying, "Name it - you got it".

 

Sorry rich - it just isn't rational. 


I expected the folks trying to stop women from having the procedure to avoid any personal expense or inconvenience.  Just making a point. 


But think of it this way - she let some dude have his way with her or is raped, hopefully enjoying it (both sides or one for the rape). Why should the result be either others pay for the outcome of their  (or his) pleasure of kill the baby?

 

Hardly seems right.


Well, that’s a disgustingly sexist post.

 

What is sexist? - that's the way it happens - surely you remember.


 

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