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It's getting warmer in my hometown...

https://www.climatestations.com/san-francisco-ca/

 


That doesn't look anything like a hockey stick because the temperatures are falling in recent years.  I suspect the cold before 1970 was caused by smog.

 


I'm not sure how you can look at that graph and think it shows that temperatures are falling in recent years, but whatever 🙄

 

Air pollution traps heat from the sun. That trapping of heat is called the greenhouse effect.

 

Since 1970, CO2 emissions have increased by about 90%, with emissions from fossil fuel combustion and industrial processes contributing about 78% of the total greenhouse gas emissions increase from 1970 to 2011.

 

 

https://www.epa.gov/sites/production/files/styles/large/public/2017-04/fossil_fuels_1.png

 

I suspect this is the cause of rising temps since 1970.


A negative hallucination is when someone doesn't see something that is really there and you are hallucinating big time because you don't see this temperature decrease:

 

SanFrancisco.png

 

And, smog is not a greenhouse gas, but, particulate matter which is reputed to lower temperatures.

 


I see "falling temperatures" that are still higher than the long-term average base temperature, and which are extremely unlikely to ever return to the pre-1970 average base temperature.

 

And, there are two distinct types of smog -- sulfurous smog (typical of London smog) and photochemical smog (typical of Los Angeles smog). Photochemical smog results when sunlight reacts with nitrogen oxides (which are emitted from the burning of fossil fuels in cars, power plants and factories) and VOCs. This reaction creates ground level ozone which is the key component in smog and is a greenhouse gas.


I don't care about baseline levels because that is based on an extra smoggy past.  You have the opposite of the hockey stick predicted by climatologists.

 

And, I see no scientific evidence that the cooling effect of the particulate component of smog is exceeded by the warming effect of whatever ozone accompanies it. 

 

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It rained here today. I guess that must mean the earth will soon be covered in water. 

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@aruzinsky wrote:

@Cirice wrote:

@aruzinsky wrote:

@Cirice wrote:

https://www.climatestations.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/SFannt.gifEdit Reply

 

It's getting warmer in my hometown...

https://www.climatestations.com/san-francisco-ca/

 


That doesn't look anything like a hockey stick because the temperatures are falling in recent years.  I suspect the cold before 1970 was caused by smog.

 


I'm not sure how you can look at that graph and think it shows that temperatures are falling in recent years, but whatever 🙄

 

Air pollution traps heat from the sun. That trapping of heat is called the greenhouse effect.

 

Since 1970, CO2 emissions have increased by about 90%, with emissions from fossil fuel combustion and industrial processes contributing about 78% of the total greenhouse gas emissions increase from 1970 to 2011.

 

 

https://www.epa.gov/sites/production/files/styles/large/public/2017-04/fossil_fuels_1.png

 

I suspect this is the cause of rising temps since 1970.


A negative hallucination is when someone doesn't see something that is really there and you are hallucinating big time because you don't see this temperature decrease:

 

SanFrancisco.png

 

And, smog is not a greenhouse gas, but, particulate matter which is reputed to lower temperatures.

 


I see "falling temperatures" that are still higher than the long-term average base temperature, and which are extremely unlikely to ever return to the pre-1970 average base temperature.

 

And, there are two distinct types of smog -- sulfurous smog (typical of London smog) and photochemical smog (typical of Los Angeles smog). Photochemical smog results when sunlight reacts with nitrogen oxides (which are emitted from the burning of fossil fuels in cars, power plants and factories) and VOCs. This reaction creates ground level ozone which is the key component in smog and is a greenhouse gas.

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@Cirice wrote:

@aruzinsky wrote:

@Cirice wrote:

https://www.climatestations.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/SFannt.gifEdit Reply

 

It's getting warmer in my hometown...

https://www.climatestations.com/san-francisco-ca/

 


That doesn't look anything like a hockey stick because the temperatures are falling in recent years.  I suspect the cold before 1970 was caused by smog.

 


I'm not sure how you can look at that graph and think it shows that temperatures are falling in recent years, but whatever 🙄

 

Air pollution traps heat from the sun. That trapping of heat is called the greenhouse effect.

 

Since 1970, CO2 emissions have increased by about 90%, with emissions from fossil fuel combustion and industrial processes contributing about 78% of the total greenhouse gas emissions increase from 1970 to 2011.

 

 

https://www.epa.gov/sites/production/files/styles/large/public/2017-04/fossil_fuels_1.png

 

I suspect this is the cause of rising temps since 1970.


A negative hallucination is when someone doesn't see something that is really there and you are hallucinating big time because you don't see this temperature decrease:

 

SanFrancisco.png

 

And, smog is not a greenhouse gas, but, particulate matter which is reputed to lower temperatures.

 

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@aruzinsky wrote:

@Cirice wrote:

https://www.climatestations.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/SFannt.gifEdit Reply

 

It's getting warmer in my hometown...

https://www.climatestations.com/san-francisco-ca/

 


That doesn't look anything like a hockey stick because the temperatures are falling in recent years.  I suspect the cold before 1970 was caused by smog.

 


I'm not sure how you can look at that graph and think it shows that temperatures are falling in recent years, but whatever 🙄

 

Air pollution traps heat from the sun. That trapping of heat is called the greenhouse effect.

 

Since 1970, CO2 emissions have increased by about 90%, with emissions from fossil fuel combustion and industrial processes contributing about 78% of the total greenhouse gas emissions increase from 1970 to 2011.

 

 

https://www.epa.gov/sites/production/files/styles/large/public/2017-04/fossil_fuels_1.png

 

I suspect this is the cause of rising temps since 1970.

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@Cirice wrote:

https://www.climatestations.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/SFannt.gifEdit Reply

 

It's getting warmer in my hometown...

https://www.climatestations.com/san-francisco-ca/

 


That doesn't look anything like a hockey stick because the temperatures are falling in recent years.  I suspect the cold before 1970 was caused by smog.

 

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https://www.climatestations.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/SFannt.gif

 

It's getting warmer in my hometown...

https://www.climatestations.com/san-francisco-ca/

 

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Message from my gas supplier:

 

https://www.nicorgas.com/about-us/press-room/2019-press-releases/nicor-gas-breaks-historic-gas-deliv...

 

Nicor Gas breaks historic gas delivery records during Polar Vortex
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Nicor Gas is one of four natural gas distribution companies of Southern Company Gas, a wholly owned subsidiary of Southern Company (NYSE: SO). Nicor Gas serves more than 2.2 million customers in a service territory that encompasses most of the northern third of Illinois, excluding the city of Chicago.
 

There’s growing evidence that a warming Arctic drives the polar vortex.

 

The northern polar jet stream is driven partly by the temperature contrast between between Arctic and mid-latitude temperatures. Climate change, true to the predictions of the past half century, has led to faster warming in the Arctic than in the temperate zones, so the temperature difference between the two regions has been lessening. This reduction in the temperature difference weakens the jet-stream. The weakened jet-stream and the intrusion of warmer air can disturb the polar vortex sending Arctic air south into middle latitudes, resulting in the extreme temperatures you are experiencing in Chicago.

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I remember when I was a kid and we had glaciers and ice packs. 

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Well, I don't know about you guys (generic) but I can tell you that the snowmen were a lot bigger when I was 5.

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