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Der Trumper won the same way Der Fuhrer did.

 

First, have your political party make certain nothing gets done to fix people's problems.

 

Then identify some minority on which you can blame all those problems.

 

Finally hold huge stage managed rallies at which you promise to end the gridlock that prevents problem solving AND that you will deal with the minority-to-blame in draconian fashon.

 

Now we get to see if Der Trumper will continue to read from Der Fuhrer's playbook when he comes to Govern.

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That subject has to be a slam-dunk for a Phd. thesis......maybe even a Pulitzer.  Once you sift through all the political trash surrounding the issue and get rid of it, maybe you should take a close look at the characteristics and percentages of the electorate that actually voted. Check out the ones that didn't vote too. Now...check out what, where, when and why the pollsters did what they did?  Gets pretty complex, pretty quick. Think you've got a handle on that?  I don't.

 

I don't respond to pollsters...do you?

IF so, do you tell the entire truth or just what you think serves your ideology?

 

And that's only part of the problem.  This isn't the first time pollsters have screwed up. Hopefully we won't grant them unwarranted credibility again....or will we?  

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@rk9152 wrote:

Considering the fact that the topic has to do with, "When Election Day dawned, almost all the pollsters, analytics nerds and political insiders..." getting their predictions wrong, it is hard to see the relevance of, "cheeto-faced", "Dubya" and "mollypoodle" - and that other off topic stuff.


Many American Citizens - perhaps as many as 65.7 million - consider that to be a century plus old well recognized conservative shortcoming.

 

He is useless on top of the ground - he should be under it - inspiring the cabbages... Mark Twain 1894
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Considering the fact that the topic has to do with, "When Election Day dawned, almost all the pollsters, analytics nerds and political insiders..." getting their predictions wrong, it is hard to see the relevance of, "cheeto-faced", "Dubya" and "mollypoodle" - and that other off topic stuff.

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Dear Hillary;

Imagine believing your the smartest person in the world.... and you fail "the" test.... or the best player and miss the "shot"... or expecting santa to bring you a pony and you got a book.  It's the Snowflake mentallity. Maybe we should get you a participation trophy.

 

Best wishes.... America

 

 

Stupid is what stupid does and she didn't do what the smart guy did. He's a winner and she's not.

 

 

 


"Liberals are totalitarians screaming to get out"
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The majority of American Citizens did NOT vote for the sociopathic cheeto-faced gollum.

 

They did not want the criminally dishonest liar.

 

They still don't.

 

Dubya - the drug and alcohol damaged deserter-in-chief didn't get cut any slack - people cheered and celebrated when he and his cabal of criminals were convicted of war crimes.

 

Can you realistically expect anything different for Putin's mollypoodle?

 

He is useless on top of the ground - he should be under it - inspiring the cabbages... Mark Twain 1894
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Well, Jim, you really can't blame them. Yes, there is the bias issue and their efforts to make their wishes come true. But beyond that they were using the standard modeling that had worked in the past. But, right from the get-go they (and many other) simply did not grasp how atypical this election season was - how atypical a candidate Trump was.

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When Election Day dawned, almost all the pollsters, analytics nerds and political insiders in the country had Hillary Clinton waltzing into the White House.

 

 

By the time polls had closed nationwide on Tuesday night, those projections had been left in shambles — just like the ones a year ago that all-but ruled out the possibility of Donald Trump winning the Republican Party’s presidential nomination.

 

Headed into Election Day, polling evangelist Nate Silver’s 538 website put Clinton’s odds at winning the White House at about 72 percent. By midnight, the site had more than flipped its odds making, giving Trump an 84 percent chance of winning.

 

Trump had notched hugely significant upset victories in Florida, North Carolina and Wisconsin — critical swing states where almost every public poll and most private projections had shown Clinton ahead.

 

READ MORE:  http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/how-did-everyone-get-2016-wrong-presidential-election-231036

 

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I guess that 538 prediction didn't work out so good huh?

 

Sources and sources are everywhere... Some better than others I suppose.

 

The picture says it all.

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