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@aruzinsky wrote:

@MIseker wrote:

@aruzinsky wrote:

I submit that the liberally controlled taxes on diet soda in the areas of Chicago and Philadelphia will kill some people and save the lives of no one.

 

Background information:

 

http://chicago.suntimes.com/opinion/monday-letters-sugar-tax-on-diet-soda-makes-no-sense/

 

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/local/20160611_Surprised_by_diet_soda_tax__some_health_experts_now...

 

My argument:


Some diabetics who want to drink diet soda will be driven to drink less expensive sugary drinks such as KoolAid and Fruit Juice cocktails. This will raise their AIC thereby shortening their lives. See:

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25414153


And, the diet soda drinkers who switch to tap water will not extend their lives.  Some will drink lead contaminated tap water (think of Flint, MI), thereby shortening their lives.  Shortening someone's life by a time period, X, is, in effect, the same as shooting them in the head, time period, X, before they would have died anyway therefore my use of the word "kill" is justified.   And, some people will continue to drink diet soda but become grumpy from paying more while having their sensibilities offended by stupid liberal justifications. This "grumpiness" will result in increased rates of domestic violence, road rage, etc., some of which will result in deaths of innocent people who have no interest in drinking soda.


Reading you post I see you think wanting to keep people from poisoning themselves is a bad thing.R ecent studies have shown commonly used artifiial sweeteners have effects on the body that are just as bad, and in some cases worse, than sugars. As for diabetics using them, some boost appetite as a side effect. SO, what are we talking about here in your smoke blowing post? no one, in reality, needs ANY of these products. Not my decision to make concerning other people of course. What I AM AGAINST..is the CAPITALIST PRACTICE of eliminating drinking fountains and SELLING BOTTLED WATER along with the pop in vending machines, or at the soda fountain charging as much for a cup of water as for a soda. Want to talk about manipulating choices? There ya go..Conservative Capitalists forcing people to pay more for the healthiest most cost effective choice. Hey they all cost a dollar  a cup so why get water? I carbonate my own water for most of my sipping, or just drin plain water. 

 

As far as you municipal system and its lead content, here is how most of that works. The lead pipes are on private property, the lines running to the house. Municipalities generally used cast iron in their long striagght runs. Lead was cheap and handy for homeowners for fitting bends etc. When we wised up to the dangers of lead, muni's used additives to the water supply that keeps lead from leaching into the water. Flint, and other municipalites, decided to SKIP THIS of cut back, and it has set up a situation where lead will leach for years to come..FROM PIPES ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. SO the slumlords could fix this on their dime. thats not going to happen. Govts arent willing to cough up money to the slum lords because nothing prevents them from taking the money and running, and they havent found a way for their cronies to make money yet.

 

ANyway..your post is full of holes, wrong headed, and inaccurate. You also accuse liberals of caring about peoles well being. How terrible.

 


"Recent studies have shown commonly used artifiial sweeteners have effects on the body that are just as bad, and in some cases worse, than sugars."

 

Name one. This says otherwise:

 

https://examine.com/nutrition/is-diet-soda-bad-for-you/

 

"As for diabetics using them, some boost appetite as a side effect."

 

Even, if true, that increased hunger could be satisfied by eating proteins, fats and low glycemic carbohydrates which do not raise A1C.

 

"SO, what are we talking about here in your smoke blowing post?"

 

You are blowing smoke by not citing any scientific studies.

 

" no one, in reality, needs ANY of these products."

 

No one needs them to live, but, many need them to be simultaneously happy and live. The average  effect on the diabetic population will be a decrease in their quality and length of life. 

 

The cause of lead contaminated water is irrelevant.  What is relevant is that it is known to exist in some Chicago areas while government liberals provide incentives for citizens to drink it.

 

https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20161018/back-of-yards/chicago-park-district-lead-water-fountains

 

 

 

 https://www.google.com/search?q=dangers+of+artificial+sweeteners&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi8563A97_QAhWk54MKH...

 

 

 

 

 


pick a study. 

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@MIseker wrote:

@aruzinsky wrote:

I submit that the liberally controlled taxes on diet soda in the areas of Chicago and Philadelphia will kill some people and save the lives of no one.

 

Background information:

 

http://chicago.suntimes.com/opinion/monday-letters-sugar-tax-on-diet-soda-makes-no-sense/

 

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/local/20160611_Surprised_by_diet_soda_tax__some_health_experts_now...

 

My argument:


Some diabetics who want to drink diet soda will be driven to drink less expensive sugary drinks such as KoolAid and Fruit Juice cocktails. This will raise their AIC thereby shortening their lives. See:

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25414153


And, the diet soda drinkers who switch to tap water will not extend their lives.  Some will drink lead contaminated tap water (think of Flint, MI), thereby shortening their lives.  Shortening someone's life by a time period, X, is, in effect, the same as shooting them in the head, time period, X, before they would have died anyway therefore my use of the word "kill" is justified.   And, some people will continue to drink diet soda but become grumpy from paying more while having their sensibilities offended by stupid liberal justifications. This "grumpiness" will result in increased rates of domestic violence, road rage, etc., some of which will result in deaths of innocent people who have no interest in drinking soda.


Reading you post I see you think wanting to keep people from poisoning themselves is a bad thing.R ecent studies have shown commonly used artifiial sweeteners have effects on the body that are just as bad, and in some cases worse, than sugars. As for diabetics using them, some boost appetite as a side effect. SO, what are we talking about here in your smoke blowing post? no one, in reality, needs ANY of these products. Not my decision to make concerning other people of course. What I AM AGAINST..is the CAPITALIST PRACTICE of eliminating drinking fountains and SELLING BOTTLED WATER along with the pop in vending machines, or at the soda fountain charging as much for a cup of water as for a soda. Want to talk about manipulating choices? There ya go..Conservative Capitalists forcing people to pay more for the healthiest most cost effective choice. Hey they all cost a dollar  a cup so why get water? I carbonate my own water for most of my sipping, or just drin plain water. 

 

As far as you municipal system and its lead content, here is how most of that works. The lead pipes are on private property, the lines running to the house. Municipalities generally used cast iron in their long striagght runs. Lead was cheap and handy for homeowners for fitting bends etc. When we wised up to the dangers of lead, muni's used additives to the water supply that keeps lead from leaching into the water. Flint, and other municipalites, decided to SKIP THIS of cut back, and it has set up a situation where lead will leach for years to come..FROM PIPES ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. SO the slumlords could fix this on their dime. thats not going to happen. Govts arent willing to cough up money to the slum lords because nothing prevents them from taking the money and running, and they havent found a way for their cronies to make money yet.

 

ANyway..your post is full of holes, wrong headed, and inaccurate. You also accuse liberals of caring about peoles well being. How terrible.

 


"Recent studies have shown commonly used artifiial sweeteners have effects on the body that are just as bad, and in some cases worse, than sugars."

 

Name one. This says otherwise:

 

https://examine.com/nutrition/is-diet-soda-bad-for-you/

 

"As for diabetics using them, some boost appetite as a side effect."

 

Even, if true, that increased hunger could be satisfied by eating proteins, fats and low glycemic carbohydrates which do not raise A1C.

 

"SO, what are we talking about here in your smoke blowing post?"

 

You are blowing smoke by not citing any scientific studies.

 

" no one, in reality, needs ANY of these products."

 

No one needs them to live, but, many need them to be simultaneously happy and live. The average  effect on the diabetic population will be a decrease in their quality and length of life. 

 

The cause of lead contaminated water is irrelevant.  What is relevant is that it is known to exist in some Chicago areas while government liberals provide incentives for citizens to drink it.

 

https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20161018/back-of-yards/chicago-park-district-lead-water-fountains

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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@MIseker wrote:

@aruzinsky wrote:

I submit that the liberally controlled taxes on diet soda in the areas of Chicago and Philadelphia will kill some people and save the lives of no one.

 

Background information:

 

http://chicago.suntimes.com/opinion/monday-letters-sugar-tax-on-diet-soda-makes-no-sense/

 

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/local/20160611_Surprised_by_diet_soda_tax__some_health_experts_now...

 

My argument:


Some diabetics who want to drink diet soda will be driven to drink less expensive sugary drinks such as KoolAid and Fruit Juice cocktails. This will raise their AIC thereby shortening their lives. See:

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25414153


And, the diet soda drinkers who switch to tap water will not extend their lives.  Some will drink lead contaminated tap water (think of Flint, MI), thereby shortening their lives.  Shortening someone's life by a time period, X, is, in effect, the same as shooting them in the head, time period, X, before they would have died anyway therefore my use of the word "kill" is justified.   And, some people will continue to drink diet soda but become grumpy from paying more while having their sensibilities offended by stupid liberal justifications. This "grumpiness" will result in increased rates of domestic violence, road rage, etc., some of which will result in deaths of innocent people who have no interest in drinking soda.


Reading you post I see you think wanting to keep people from poisoning themselves is a bad thing. Recent studies have shown commonly used artifiial sweeteners have effects on the body that are just as bad, and in some cases worse, than sugars. As for diabetics using them, some boost appetite as a side effect. SO, what are we talking about here in your smoke blowing post? no one, in reality, needs ANY of these products. Not my decision to make concerning other people of course. What I AM AGAINST..is the CAPITALIST PRACTICE of eliminating drinking fountains and SELLING BOTTLED WATER along with the pop in vending machines, or at the soda fountain charging as much for a cup of water as for a soda. Want to talk about manipulating choices? There ya go..Conservative Capitalists forcing people to pay more for the healthiest most cost effective choice. Hey they all cost a dollar  a cup so why get water? I carbonate my own water for most of my sipping, or just drin plain water. 

 

As far as you municipal system and its lead content, here is how most of that works. The lead pipes are on private property, the lines running to the house. Municipalities generally used cast iron in their long striagght runs. Lead was cheap and handy for homeowners for fitting bends etc. When we wised up to the dangers of lead, muni's used additives to the water supply that keeps lead from leaching into the water. Flint, and other municipalites, decided to SKIP THIS of cut back, and it has set up a situation where lead will leach for years to come..FROM PIPES ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. SO the slumlords could fix this on their dime. thats not going to happen. Govts arent willing to cough up money to the slum lords because nothing prevents them from taking the money and running, and they havent found a way for their cronies to make money yet.

 

ANyway..your post is full of holes, wrong headed, and inaccurate. You also accuse liberals of caring about peoles well being. How terrible.

 


LOL.....it's ludicrous, isn't it MIseker?  Using the bizarre logic provided in the topic, Republicans killed over 300,000 innocent lives in the middle east and want the poor to die of hunger here in the US.


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@aruzinsky wrote:

I submit that the liberally controlled taxes on diet soda in the areas of Chicago and Philadelphia will kill some people and save the lives of no one.

 

Background information:

 

http://chicago.suntimes.com/opinion/monday-letters-sugar-tax-on-diet-soda-makes-no-sense/

 

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/local/20160611_Surprised_by_diet_soda_tax__some_health_experts_now...

 

My argument:


Some diabetics who want to drink diet soda will be driven to drink less expensive sugary drinks such as KoolAid and Fruit Juice cocktails. This will raise their AIC thereby shortening their lives. See:

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25414153


And, the diet soda drinkers who switch to tap water will not extend their lives.  Some will drink lead contaminated tap water (think of Flint, MI), thereby shortening their lives.  Shortening someone's life by a time period, X, is, in effect, the same as shooting them in the head, time period, X, before they would have died anyway therefore my use of the word "kill" is justified.   And, some people will continue to drink diet soda but become grumpy from paying more while having their sensibilities offended by stupid liberal justifications. This "grumpiness" will result in increased rates of domestic violence, road rage, etc., some of which will result in deaths of innocent people who have no interest in drinking soda.


Reading you post I see you think wanting to keep people from poisoning themselves is a bad thing. Recent studies have shown commonly used artifiial sweeteners have effects on the body that are just as bad, and in some cases worse, than sugars. As for diabetics using them, some boost appetite as a side effect. SO, what are we talking about here in your smoke blowing post? no one, in reality, needs ANY of these products. Not my decision to make concerning other people of course. What I AM AGAINST..is the CAPITALIST PRACTICE of eliminating drinking fountains and SELLING BOTTLED WATER along with the pop in vending machines, or at the soda fountain charging as much for a cup of water as for a soda. Want to talk about manipulating choices? There ya go..Conservative Capitalists forcing people to pay more for the healthiest most cost effective choice. Hey they all cost a dollar  a cup so why get water? I carbonate my own water for most of my sipping, or just drin plain water. 

 

As far as you municipal system and its lead content, here is how most of that works. The lead pipes are on private property, the lines running to the house. Municipalities generally used cast iron in their long striagght runs. Lead was cheap and handy for homeowners for fitting bends etc. When we wised up to the dangers of lead, muni's used additives to the water supply that keeps lead from leaching into the water. Flint, and other municipalites, decided to SKIP THIS of cut back, and it has set up a situation where lead will leach for years to come..FROM PIPES ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. SO the slumlords could fix this on their dime. thats not going to happen. Govts arent willing to cough up money to the slum lords because nothing prevents them from taking the money and running, and they havent found a way for their cronies to make money yet.

 

ANyway..your post is full of holes, wrong headed, and inaccurate. You also accuse liberals of caring about peoles well being. How terrible.

 

So it begins.
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I submit that the liberally controlled taxes on diet soda in the areas of Chicago and Philadelphia will kill some people and save the lives of no one.

 

Background information:

 

http://chicago.suntimes.com/opinion/monday-letters-sugar-tax-on-diet-soda-makes-no-sense/

 

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/local/20160611_Surprised_by_diet_soda_tax__some_health_experts_now...

 

My argument:


Some diabetics who want to drink diet soda will be driven to drink less expensive sugary drinks such as KoolAid and Fruit Juice cocktails. This will raise their AIC thereby shortening their lives. See:

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25414153


And, the diet soda drinkers who switch to tap water will not extend their lives.  Some will drink lead contaminated tap water (think of Flint, MI), thereby shortening their lives.  Shortening someone's life by a time period, X, is, in effect, the same as shooting them in the head, time period, X, before they would have died anyway therefore my use of the word "kill" is justified.   And, some people will continue to drink diet soda but become grumpy from paying more while having their sensibilities offended by stupid liberal justifications. This "grumpiness" will result in increased rates of domestic violence, road rage, etc., some of which will result in deaths of innocent people who have no interest in drinking soda.

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