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Update:

 

Regarding the $0.01/ounce tax on sweetened, including artificially sweetened, beverages. After being subjected to saturation advertising for this tax by Michael Bloomberg (the Democrat ex-mayor of NY city) that made me want to smash my television set, the tax was repealed as of 12/1/17. You can see photos of the dictators here:


http://stopthecookcountytax.com/content.aspx?page=about

 

Of the 17 Cook County Commissioners, only 4 are Republicans, the rest are Democrats. All 4 Republicans voted against the tax. As for the Democrat commissioners who voted against it, I bet that all of the Democrat commissioners had a secret meeting to decide which of them could least afford to lose voters to the tax, i.e., they were ALL in favor of the tax.

And, you would think they learned their lesson on 4/26/2006, when the Chicago City Council banned foie gras, the fatty livers created by force-feeding ducks and geese. (Cook County is just an extension of Chicago politics into the suburbs.)

 

I hate living in a Banana Republic like this one:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV4N2dk0cMk

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here's my dead cat. While artificail sweeteners "may" kill, conservative ARE proposing some people die sooner..via less healthcare.

 

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@alferdpacker wrote:

 


@aruzinsky wrote:

Here are some liberals that I don't blame for actively passing high intensity sweeteners:

 

In 1996 (under Clinton), the FDA approved aspartame for use as a "general purpose sweetener."

 

FDA approved sucralose for use in 15 food categories in 1998 (under Clinton) and for use as a general purpose sweetener for foods in 1999 (under Clinton), under certain conditions of use.

 

FDA approved advantame for use as a general purpose sweetener and flavor enhancer in foods (except in meat and poultry), under certain conditions of use, in 2014 (under Obama).

 

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http://www.fda.gov/Food/IngredientsPackagingLabeling/FoodAdditivesIngredients/ucm397725.htm#Aspartam...


So - are you implying that the Orange Orifice and his financial/political partners in profit at the expense of the majority of the people are going to change the regulations and eliminate the golden goose and it's golden eggs - a very non-conservative action of eliminating profitable businesses that are performing no prosecutable criminal acts?

 

Can the deaths you allege may have been partially attributable to non-nutritive sweeteners be equated to the deaths that are unquestionably caused by accidental/inadvertent overdoses of prescription synthetic opoid pain relievers resulting from calculated disingenuity on the part of manufacturers/distributors?

 

Will the Orange Orifice fix any or all of these problems, or will the making of profit override any consideration of the value of the lives and safety of "little people" versus corporate profit margins?

 

 


All of your above questions are non sequitur.  In particular, I never alleged deaths "may have been partially attributable to non-nutritive sweeteners".   Elsewhere in this thread, I alleged that non-nutritive sweeteners save lives.

 

 

 

 

 

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Hello everyone,

 

Please remember to post according to AARP community guidelines and remember to treat the opinions of others with respect, even whilst disagreeing.

 

This is a diverse community of people with diverse opinions. It is up to each of us to be polite and treat each other with respect.

 

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@aruzinsky wrote:

Here are some liberals that I don't blame for actively passing high intensity sweeteners:

 

In 1996 (under Clinton), the FDA approved aspartame for use as a "general purpose sweetener."

 

FDA approved sucralose for use in 15 food categories in 1998 (under Clinton) and for use as a general purpose sweetener for foods in 1999 (under Clinton), under certain conditions of use.

 

FDA approved advantame for use as a general purpose sweetener and flavor enhancer in foods (except in meat and poultry), under certain conditions of use, in 2014 (under Obama).

 

Source:

 

http://www.fda.gov/Food/IngredientsPackagingLabeling/FoodAdditivesIngredients/ucm397725.htm#Aspartam...


So - are you implying that the Orange Orifice and his financial/political partners in profit at the expense of the majority of the people are going to change the regulations and eliminate the golden goose and it's golden eggs - a very non-conservative action of eliminating profitable businesses that are performing no prosecutable criminal acts?

 

Can the deaths you allege may have been partially attributable to non-nutritive sweeteners be equated to the deaths that are unquestionably caused by accidental/inadvertent overdoses of prescription synthetic opoid pain relievers resulting from calculated disingenuity on the part of manufacturers/distributors?

 

Will the Orange Orifice fix any or all of these problems, or will the making of profit override any consideration of the value of the lives and safety of "little people" versus corporate profit margins?

 

 

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Here are some liberals that I don't blame for actively passing high intensity sweeteners:

 

In 1996 (under Clinton), the FDA approved aspartame for use as a "general purpose sweetener."

 

FDA approved sucralose for use in 15 food categories in 1998 (under Clinton) and for use as a general purpose sweetener for foods in 1999 (under Clinton), under certain conditions of use.

 

FDA approved advantame for use as a general purpose sweetener and flavor enhancer in foods (except in meat and poultry), under certain conditions of use, in 2014 (under Obama).

 

Source:

 

http://www.fda.gov/Food/IngredientsPackagingLabeling/FoodAdditivesIngredients/ucm397725.htm#Aspartam...

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I knew a guy drank water from an atrisian well all his life.   He ate what he grew.  Raised his own chickens and cows.  A horse kicked him in the head and killed him the other day.

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@MIseker wrote:

@aruzinsky wrote:

@MIseker wrote:

@aruzinsky wrote:

Liberals need to get their stories straight.  The liberally controlled FDA approved high intensity sweeteners with the following stated rationale:

 

"Regardless of whether a substance is approved for use as a food additive or its use is determined to be GRAS, scientists must determine that it meets the safety standard of reasonable certainty of no harm under the intended conditions of its use. This standard of safety is defined in FDA’s regulations."

 

http://www.fda.gov/food/ingredientspackaginglabeling/foodadditivesingredients/ucm397716.htm

 

And, the FDA is and was headed by Obama Democrat appointees, Margaret Ann Hamburg and Robert Califf.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Califf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Hamburg

 

And, although I have many disagreements with the FDA, the belief that high intensity sweeteners are harmless is not one of them.  Thus, we also agree that literature that says that these sweeteners are harmful is junk science.  Much like a broken clock, even Obama, Robert Califf and Margeret Hamburg are right twice a day.

 

Since this is a matter of life and death, I suspect that there is legal cause for the federal government to stop local taxes on diet soda.  If so, it will more likely happen under Trump.  Or, maybe, withhold federal funds from Cook County until the tax is withdrawn.

 

FUn to blameObama, but i cant think of any sweeteners approved uner his admin. I agree the FDA is a joke, and does not protects the populace as it should. This is not new, its been going on since there was an FDA. 

 

 


 


In this instance, I give credit to rather than "blame" Obama.  The liberal FDA has the power to repeal past approvals therefore it is irrelevant whether the FDA was liberal at the time the sweeteners were approved. 


First you blame a liberal FDA, then you admit over time its makeup really makes no difference. Should we trust you to pick which scientific study to follow

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  In this thread, I never blamed the liberal FDA.

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@aruzinsky wrote:

@MIseker wrote:

@aruzinsky wrote:

Liberals need to get their stories straight.  The liberally controlled FDA approved high intensity sweeteners with the following stated rationale:

 

"Regardless of whether a substance is approved for use as a food additive or its use is determined to be GRAS, scientists must determine that it meets the safety standard of reasonable certainty of no harm under the intended conditions of its use. This standard of safety is defined in FDA’s regulations."

 

http://www.fda.gov/food/ingredientspackaginglabeling/foodadditivesingredients/ucm397716.htm

 

And, the FDA is and was headed by Obama Democrat appointees, Margaret Ann Hamburg and Robert Califf.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Califf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Hamburg

 

And, although I have many disagreements with the FDA, the belief that high intensity sweeteners are harmless is not one of them.  Thus, we also agree that literature that says that these sweeteners are harmful is junk science.  Much like a broken clock, even Obama, Robert Califf and Margeret Hamburg are right twice a day.

 

Since this is a matter of life and death, I suspect that there is legal cause for the federal government to stop local taxes on diet soda.  If so, it will more likely happen under Trump.  Or, maybe, withhold federal funds from Cook County until the tax is withdrawn.

 

FUn to blameObama, but i cant think of any sweeteners approved uner his admin. I agree the FDA is a joke, and does not protects the populace as it should. This is not new, its been going on since there was an FDA. 

 

 


 


In this instance, I give credit to rather than "blame" Obama.  The liberal FDA has the power to repeal past approvals therefore it is irrelevant whether the FDA was liberal at the time the sweeteners were approved. 


First you blame a liberal FDA, then you admit over time its makeup really makes no difference. Should we trust you to pick which scientific study to follow

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@MIseker wrote:

@aruzinsky wrote:

Liberals need to get their stories straight.  The liberally controlled FDA approved high intensity sweeteners with the following stated rationale:

 

"Regardless of whether a substance is approved for use as a food additive or its use is determined to be GRAS, scientists must determine that it meets the safety standard of reasonable certainty of no harm under the intended conditions of its use. This standard of safety is defined in FDA’s regulations."

 

http://www.fda.gov/food/ingredientspackaginglabeling/foodadditivesingredients/ucm397716.htm

 

And, the FDA is and was headed by Obama Democrat appointees, Margaret Ann Hamburg and Robert Califf.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Califf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Hamburg

 

And, although I have many disagreements with the FDA, the belief that high intensity sweeteners are harmless is not one of them.  Thus, we also agree that literature that says that these sweeteners are harmful is junk science.  Much like a broken clock, even Obama, Robert Califf and Margeret Hamburg are right twice a day.

 

Since this is a matter of life and death, I suspect that there is legal cause for the federal government to stop local taxes on diet soda.  If so, it will more likely happen under Trump.  Or, maybe, withhold federal funds from Cook County until the tax is withdrawn.

 

FUn to blameObama, but i cant think of any sweeteners approved uner his admin. I agree the FDA is a joke, and does not protects the populace as it should. This is not new, its been going on since there was an FDA. 

 

 


 


In this instance, I give credit to rather than "blame" Obama.  The liberal FDA has the power to repeal past approvals therefore it is irrelevant whether the FDA was liberal at the time the sweeteners were approved. 

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