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@CriticalThinking wrote:

Nothing but excuses and rationalization from Cult Members. We elect a President to be a role model for our children. We elect a President to demonstrate a high level of integrity and honesty, someone our young people can respect and admire. Yes, somebody like President Obama.

That is ridiculous. We elect a President to run the Administration in a way we envision our nation. Somebody like Obama who leads us down a Socialist path is not my vision of the right man for the job.

 

And the rest was just more of the hatred spewing. 


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Simple answer. Education. What that will do is reduce the numb er of far right enablers and voters so it will not be possible for another Dictator to take over after Dictator Trump. The experts have been telling us that for a long time now after they completed their studies of the current crop of supporters, and enablers.

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@ManicProgressive wrote:

Trump's election reflects a deep need to maintain or even strengthen white Christian cultural supremacy in the US.  Which is why the Republican party is fielding so many white supremacists, Holocaust deniers, and neo-nazis on local tickets. 

 

How do you stop it?  Two things:

 

1) End white fragility.   People who are working to eliminate their bias know who they are.  They are the ones who don't get immediately defensive when talking about racism.   They need to make sure they keep working on their bias, raise their kids not to be biased, teach themselves to be aware of bias, and call it out when they see it.  

 

2)  Vote for Democrats.  Fight like heck to stop Christian precepts from infecting our legal system and government.    Many Trump supporters want this to be a Christian nation.   But religious states always discriminate and they most often discriminate against women.    And a huge problem with court rulings that permit encroachment of religion where we traditionally have freedom from religion, is that someday, when there is a different majority religion (even just regionally), people will use that religion to discriminate againt Christians.  And it's all our fault for allowing religious rulings. 


Wonderful - "white guilt" and now "Christian guilt".

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rker posted..

When religion gets involved in matter of Government and secular laws, it always spells disaster.

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This story in today's paper is of interest on that subject...

https://missoulian.com/news/state-and-regional/priests-attendance-at-trump-rally-causes-furor/articl...

DAVID McCUMBER and THOMAS PLANK david.mccumber@mtstandard.com Jul 7


The Rev. Garrett Nelson of Great Falls attends the Trump rally Thursday.

The attendance of four Roman Catholic priests from Montana at President Donald Trump's political rally in Great Falls Thursday has created a social media firestorm and apparently incurred the displeasure of the priests' superiors in the church.

The four, who were seated near the front of the rally, wore their clerical garb, carried "Make America Great Again" signs, and wore VIP badges. They clapped for Trump as he doubled down on his oft-repeated slur of Sen. Elizabeth Warren as "Pocahontas," mocked the #MeToo movement, and questioned the meaning of former Republican President George H.W. Bush's "Thousand Points of Light" slogan.
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@CriticalThinking wrote:

As usual, he posts complete nonsense. "The person who should be shamed is the one who claims to be an Independent, but who sounds more like a far leftist."

 

I'd like to know when despising someone because he's a pathological liar and a despicable human being made one a far leftist? Are you serious? When did that become the criteria for being a leftist in the real world?

 

This yet another example of how and why Trump Cult members live in an bizarre, alternate reality.


A person's political ideology is based on their vision of the government and the governed - not made up pathological liar garbage. Certainly dispicable human being is not a factor - except for the hate filled.

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@rker321 wrote:

 

You won't be able to prevent future Trumps unless the society that we live begins to change, and accept that alternative facts do not represent the  truth,, that laying is not the way to govern, that respecting  the Rule of Law is imperative for any Prtesident. and Congress. and to really change the mentality of Congressmena and Senators that they don't have a job for life.

 

Agreed - we have to be sure that people understand the truth that Mueller is on a fishing expedition to "get Trump" - not the alternate facts that he isn't. We have to be sure that people see the lies (alternate facts) in the extensive topic claiming that a Congressional report shows that the President lied about Russian interference in out elections. We have to be sure that people understand the "alternate truth" of calling ICE agents fascists.

 

So, you have the right idea - reality has to be shown to the American people.


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Nothing but excuses and rationalization from Cult Members. We elect a President to be a role model for our children. We elect a President to demonstrate a high level of integrity and honesty, someone our young people can respect and admire. Yes, somebody like President Obama.

 

Anyone who does't respect honesty is someone without character and integrity. They can make up all the phony excuses they want about policies they llike, in the end, they have no character. 

 

Where I grew up, if we learned somebody was a liar, we never accepted him or her again in our group. They went to the bottom of the barrel. But that's not the case for Trump Cult members, they're already at the bottom of the barrel with their hero in the White House.

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@CriticalThinking wrote:

Yes Tex. The idea is to shame Trump supporters so they will never vote again for a PATHOLOGICAL LIAR


The person who should be shamed is the one who claims to be an Independent, but who sounds more like a far leftist.  So who are you considering that you would want to vote for in 2020?  Or perhaps are you campaigning for your choice as Senator or Representative in this fall's election?

 

That instead of camping out here criticizing others for their constitutionally protected right to have a political opinion contrary to yours?

 

Why should anyone be shamed because of your posts? 


I believe that an adult would be ashamed of their hate filled garbage being posted about out President.

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Criticizing Trump is probably not the best way to prevent another Trump from winning an election.

 

Denigrating his base will not change any of their minds. It will probably only make them more determined to get Trump re-elected.

The best way for the Dems to win is to focus on the voters who vote either party - depending on the candidate. 

I think Hillary learned a lesson - or should have.  You don't try to win over supposed Republican leaning voters by acting like a Republican. And you certainly don't take the progressive wing of the party for granted.

 

Remember, there was a Republican Congressman who said he wasn't worried about upsetting the Tea Party because, as he said, "Where else can they go?". Now establishment Republicans have to take a back seat to Trump.

 

The simplest way - Dems have to focus on issues that are popular with more than 50% of the voters.

 

Instead, their strategists focus on multiple issues to win over separate groups hoping in the end it will add up to more than 50%. That's more complicated than focusing on something that is popular with the majority.

 

Obama had the right idea focusing on healthcare-for-all and world peace, although neither turned out as well as expected. 

 

 

Obama also banned donations from Political Action Committees (PACs) and federal lobbyists - in the Primaries.

Team Hillary and the DNC removed those restrictions thinking it would help Her win. It didn't.

 

 

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@CriticalThinking wrote:

Trump is a PATHOLOGICAL LIAR who insults those who disagree with him, ethnic groups. women, and war heros. Those who give him 100% support have no respect for honesty because they're lying in bed with the most disgraceful President of our lifetime.


Your hatred misses a vital point. We do not elect a President to "love', "idolize" or "go to bed with" him. We elect him based on his vision of America and we continue our support as long as he sticks with the promises he made.

 

The more emotional (one might say "child like") go more for such as the above to justify their hatred over not getting their own way in the elections.

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