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I agree with Jim  a 4% increase in dues perhaps those NATO  members will expel Trump and then they will have the organization that they need to have.   One  that will show the US what allies can do when they unite. and leave him with Russia that is his buddy. Both  will defend each other, or so Trump thinks. just like he thought how wonderful NK guy was, and he got stummped.

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Based on his negotiating record so far, we will be paying 10% of Nato's budget in return for a really cool military parade to be held in Botswana.  (How about those North Koreans?)

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Mick posted..

If the USA was Billed Market Rates for Rent for all the Bases they have in NATO Countries it would amount to tens of Billions

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That does not make even a little bit of sense.

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Being a gutless draft-dodging preppytwit, Lemontop has no clue about anything military, and has no interest in learning vs using whatever the last FOX broadcast said.

 

Yes, the US spends nearly 4% of GDP on our Military. No, nothing close to that is devoted to NATO.

 

For starters, about 1/3d of our total Defense spending goes for operations in the PACIFIC, so the amount available to support Europe is not 4% but 2.68%. Then we consider that a lot of our "support" for NATO is living right here in the USA, helping our economy at home. And then there's our whole Nuclear Triad, which should only be counted as a support for NATO if we had a rock-solid committment to use those forces to defend NATO, which Der Trumper has not made. Bottom line, the US is only providing less than 2% to do the things Eurpoean Nations need to do to provide for the security of NATO. Why does anyone think our allies should do more than we do?

 

Second, Der Trumper's too dumb to realize all those wonderful highways in Germany and the rest of what was "Western Europe"  support our military operations, as does the rest of their excellent infrastructure. Not counted in his understanding of the situation or what he thinks is their support to NATO.

 

Third, a trade DEFICIT is a good thing for Americans. It means we have more things from the other country than they got from us, and all they have to show is a bunch of pictures of our dead Presidents, which they generally send back to us to buy the Government bonds that finance our deficit spending.

 

Forth, in the last few years, NATO forces have taken about 1/3d of the casualties in jrbush's worthless War in Iraq, but with Lemontop's ranting against all things NATO, that is going to change, and it seems unlikely our "allies" will support any of our overseas military misadventures in the future, which would be a good thing if it kept Republicans from starting more needless wars, but it won't.

 

But don't bother Republicans with facts - it makes their heads hurt and they can't understand them anyway.

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@jimc91 wrote:

What would be wrong with all NATO members contributing 4% of their GDP so NATO will have all the funds they need to do the work for the world?

 

Its time to separate shakers and movers from the free loaders...

 

 

 

 


Golleee I wish Trump and his Cult Members would do some research - this is embarrassing........................

 

How much is the NATO Budget? - well the entire NATO budget amounts to less than 1% of all the money that all the NATO Countries spend on their own Defense including the money the USA Spends on its on Defense

 

Is there a Payment each NATO Country makes to NATO? Well not really - like I said above - there is a cost to run NATO and the members do share that cost but thats not the number people keep throwing around as th amount no one but Trump pay what they should

 

The 2% or 3% or now this guy above wants 4% is the amount of money - EACH COUNTRY IS SUPPOSED TO SPEND ON THEIR OWN DEFENSE

 

If the USA was Billed Market Rates for Rent for all the Bases they have in NATO Countries it would amount to tens of Billions

 

Is there a NATO Army? - well not really - all member states contribute their own Military forces to trouble spots - however NATO does Independently operate a Fleet of AWACS

 

Source - https://www.nato.int/cps/su/natohq/126169.htm

 

 

 

 

 

 

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What would be wrong with all NATO members contributing 4% of their GDP so NATO will have all the funds they need to do the work for the world?

 

Its time to separate shakers and movers from the free loaders...

 

 

 

 

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