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"Undercover videos recorded by Project Veritas" should tell everyone that anything about the videos are of doubtful veracity. Have they ever released a video without editing it to make the people on it appear to say the opposite of what was actually said?


Do you have any thoughts on the accusations waged at Google?

 

My vote is to classify them as media publishing firms.

 

 

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"Undercover videos recorded by Project Veritas" should tell everyone that anything about the videos are of doubtful veracity. Have they ever released a video without editing it to make the people on it appear to say the opposite of what was actually said?

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I wouldn't mind breaking up some of the very big tech companies. Didn't Microsoft get hit with a big fine in Europe for trying to monopolies the industry? But that's Europe. Here in the U.S. it would be very difficult to truly stand up to the big techs. They have too much clout in Washington.

 

Alphabet is Google's Parent Company:

 

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As I always say, Trump World lives in an alternate reality dominated by FAKE NEWS. The real danger to our media is Trump and the Russians. But Trump World doesn't care about that, their only goal is protecting their Supreme Leader in the White House.

 

This thread is about Trump's ongoing battle with Google. As always, his cult members get on board and emulate the President. It doesn't matter what Trump says or does, they follow in his footsteps. Here's a sampling of Trump's ongoing battle with Google.

 

August. 2018:

TRUMP: GOOGLE IS FAILING TO SHOW ENOUGH GOOD STORIES AND COULD BE PROSECUTED FOR MAKING ME LOOK BAD, SAYS PRESIDENT IN LATEST ATTACK ON MEDIA

 

March 2019:

Google denied "working with the Chinese military" on Saturday after President Donald Trump publicly criticized the company in an evening message posted on Twitter.

"Google is helping China and their military, but not the U.S.," Trump said. "Terrible!"

 

August 2018:
Trump accuses Google of promoting Obama's speeches over his

 

President continues attack on Internet giant and says Google has chosen to ignore his two addresses to Congress

 

Trump said in a tweet that Google’s search engine had “rigged” news story search results to show mostly “bad” stories about him and other conservatives.

 


trump supporters and the extreme radical right believe anything that trumps says and only things that extreme right wing sources say, like the one just used, The American Conservative, or Breitbart, etc etc etc.


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As I always say, Trump World lives in an alternate reality dominated by FAKE NEWS. The real danger to our media is Trump and the Russians. But Trump World doesn't care about that, their only goal is protecting their Supreme Leader in the White House.

 

This thread is about Trump's ongoing battle with Google. As always, his cult members get on board and emulate the President. It doesn't matter what Trump says or does, they follow in his footsteps. Here's a sampling of Trump's ongoing battle with Google.

 

August. 2018:

TRUMP: GOOGLE IS FAILING TO SHOW ENOUGH GOOD STORIES AND COULD BE PROSECUTED FOR MAKING ME LOOK BAD, SAYS PRESIDENT IN LATEST ATTACK ON MEDIA

 

March 2019:

Google denied "working with the Chinese military" on Saturday after President Donald Trump publicly criticized the company in an evening message posted on Twitter. "Google is helping China and their military, but not the U.S.," Trump said. "Terrible!"

 

August 2018:
Trump accuses Google of promoting Obama's speeches over his

 

President continues attack on internet giant and says Google has chosen to ignore his two addresses to Congress

 

Trump said in a tweet that Google’s search engine had “rigged” news story search results to show mostly “bad” stories about him and other conservatives.

 

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Non-stop hypocrisy from Trump Lovers. Google is playing by the same rules as all other media companies. But Trump World is upset with Google, because they dared to criticize their Supreme Leader in the White House. Remember, in a cult, no critiicsm of their leader is allowed or tolerated.

 

Google is far from perfect, but they are one of the great American success stories.

 

Note: Trump World had no problem with Russia manipulating the mass media. Isn't that interesting?


That is simply not true.  

 

Most conservatives are upset with Google and much of the social media companies for suppressing conservative posts and searches.  

 

Look it up, you are wrong about them playing by the same rules... Wrong.

 

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Chris Hughes, co-founder of Facebook, recently wrote a widely discussed critique of the company in The New York Times. He observes that Mark Zuckerberg once claimed that “Facebook was just a ‘social utility,’ a neutral platform for people to communicate what they wished.”

 

Hughes laments that Zuckerberg now considers Facebook to be both a platform and a publisher—claiming in court that it is “entitled to First Amendment protection” and that it is “inevitably making decisions about values.” Hughes sees this transformation from neutral platform to self-appointed arbiter of acceptable public discourse as a threat to free expression and political debate. He argues that Facebook should be broken up, or at the very least that “the government must hold Mark accountable.”

 

Hughes is right to point out that we underestimate social media’s power to dominate communications and control political speech. According to the Pew Research Center, 7 percent of American adults in 2005 used social networking sites. Today, more than two thirds receive news from social media, with almost half, according to Pew, getting news from social media “often” or “sometimes.”

 

What Hughes does not discuss, and what too often goes unremarked on in discussions of Big Tech’s power, is how a special government privilege, Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, allowed for this growth. This provision protects internet platforms like Facebook and Google from liability for statements and content its users generate.


This legal protection—not accorded to newspapers or other fora—created the internet as we know it. Protection from liability for any false or injurious content their users post has permitted the social media giants to allow the incredibly freewheeling discussions and commentary that we have come to expect from the internet. Exemplary is Facebook’s response to the recently circulated doctored video of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. In a statement to The Washington Post, Facebook said: “We don’t have a policy that stipulates that the information you post on Facebook must be true.” In addition, this legal protection has also helped create the lucrative tech behemoths and further their dominance in attracting advertisers. This dominance has gutted the advertising revenue streams of local, regional, and even national media outlets—outlets that do not enjoy the privileges of Section 230.

 

But what is particularly bizarre, ironic, and deeply destructive to public discourse is that, though Congress passed Section 230 to promote a free and open internet, Facebook, Twitter, and Google now use it to advocate for an open internet while at the same time justifying their censorship regimes.

 

On one hand, Twitter, Google, and the other internet platforms often advocate for an open and free internet with no restrictive gatekeepers who would block or throttle disfavored content—i.e., the policy generically known as “network neutrality.” However, they advocate for an open and free internet only when faced with broadband providers like Verizon and Comcast that could block their services. In 2017, Zuckerberg wrote that broadband providers should not be allowed to “block you from seeing certain content.” Similarly, Twitter’s lobbyists argued that Verizon and Comcast should not be permitted to “block content they don’t like” and/or relegate “certain content to the backwaters of the Internet in second or third-tier status.”

 

On the other hand, Facebook, Twitter, and Google seem to embrace a principle of “an open internet for thee but not for me” when it comes to their own platforms. And much of the country has yet to comprehend the power they seek to wield through discriminatory network practices. Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey explained to podcaster Sam Harris that Twitter does not “optimize for neutrality” when moderating speech, despite the company’s professed support for “net neutrality.” He didn’t specify which values Twitter does optimize, but Columbia University’s Richard Hanania found that over 95 percent of high-profile bans have targeted those on the Right. (In full disclosure, I have worked, pro bono, on lawsuits challenging Twitter’s censorship policies.)

 

Republican Senator Josh Hawley of Missouri has taken the lead in exposing Twitter’s bizarre, inconsistent, and biased censorship regime. Twitter’s deplatforming of Unplanned, a pro-life movie, prompted Hawley to questiona Twitter representative at a Senate hearing. The senator’s trenchant questioning—and subsequent letter to Dorsey—exposed Twitter’s refusal to reveal, in a transparent way, how or why it censors.

 

Perhaps in an effort to place a fig leaf on all its unsavory censorship, Zuckerberg has floated a proposal to create a “Facebook Supreme Court.” His appointees would make decisions about acceptable content, obviating the need for judges appointed through a democratic process.

 

In the 1990s, John Perry Barlow inspired a generation of programmers, innovators, and entrepreneurs with his “A Declaration of the Independence of Cyberspace” that foresaw the internet transcending government and ushering in a novum ordo of global freedom. Instead, we’ve gotten second-rate Silicon Valley satrapies.

 

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/social-media-platforms-or-publishers-rethinking-sec...

 

 

 

 

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Non-stop hypocrisy from Trump Lovers. Google is playing by the same rules as all other media companies. But Trump World is upset with Google, because they dared to criticize their Supreme Leader in the White House. Remember, in a cult, no criticism of their leader is allowed or tolerated.

 

Google is far from perfect, but they are one of the great American success stories.


You are correct Critical. Stock market investors loved Google, many made $thousands$ and $millions$ from investing in Google stocks. Now the same ones who made money that are trump supporters suddenly dislike Google ........... simply because they have stopped supporting trump and now criticize the trump cult leader.


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Non-stop hypocrisy from Trump Lovers. Google is playing by the same rules as all other media companies. But Trump World is upset with Google, because they dared to criticize their Supreme Leader in the White House. Remember, in a cult, no critiicsm of their leader is allowed or tolerated.

 

Google is far from perfect, but they are one of the great American success stories.

 

Note: Trump World had no problem with Russia manipulating the mass media. Isn't that interesting?

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@CriticalThinking I am all for Google and the social media giants having to play by the same rules as the media companies.  After all they are media based firms.  They are playing by their own rules and need to be called on it by the government.  It appears you disagree and that's OK as we are all entitled to our own opinion.  I guess unless you support the duly elected President, then you refer to us as "cult members..."

 

 

 

 

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Today's Republican Hypocrisy has reached new levels of insanity. When they controlled the White House, Senate, and House, they passed a tax bill where over 80% of the benefits went to big corporations and the wealthy. 

 

But when Google, one of those giant corporations, devises a strategy to stop Trump, they suddenly are opposed to a big corporation. Really? You see Trump World has become a cult, and no criticism of their Supreme Leader in the White House is tolerated. That was true for Mueller, Jeff Flake, John McCain, etc. So now they will launch non-stop attacks against Google.

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