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Well, Gail1 - I was talking about within the US.

I have never agreed with the content of your posts.

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@alferdpacker 

Oh, Stop trying to blame this on any party or politicians in the US - guess if you can't link it to President Trump somethow, it isn't a problem  - well this is - world-wide.

 

WHO (World Health Organization) said that ONE of the TEN Global Threats to World Health in 2019 is

Vaccine hesitancy

Vaccine hesitancy – the reluctance or refusal to vaccinate despite the availability of vaccines – threatens to reverse progress made in tackling vaccine-preventable diseases. Vaccination is one of the most cost-effective ways of avoiding disease – it currently prevents 2-3 million deaths a year, and a further 1.5 million could be avoided if global coverage of vaccinations improved. 

Measles, for example, has seen a 30% increase in cases globally. The reasons for this rise are complex, and not all of these cases are due to vaccine hesitancy. However, some countries that were close to eliminating the disease have seen a resurgence. 

The reasons why people choose not to vaccinate are complex; a vaccines advisory group to WHO identified complacency, inconvenience in accessing vaccines, and lack of confidence are key reasons underlying hesitancy.

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An equally big - probably bigger threat to the nation's health are the anti-vaccers who are so scientifically obtuse, irrational. and illogical (yeah it figures that most of them are trump cultists) that - based entirely upon superstitious nonsense - they are risking their children's lives.

 

There's no telling what kind of deranged and irrational claptrap they will teach their children about the social and political portions of life in this nation...

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@Olderscout66 

 

Why not just battle it out until we get Immigration Reform - we definitely need it.

Doing it "piece at a time" is not working.  Look what they are arguing about now - putting a number on the number of beds in detention - including asylum seekers and those which are detained internally, awaiting deportation.

 

 

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@GailL1 wrote:

@Centristsin2010 

 

According to the CDC :  https://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugeehealth/profiles/central-american/priority-health-conditions/inde...

Based on available data, the issues listed below are prevalent priority health conditions that healthcare providers should consider when caring for refugees from El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras.

And this, I found especially interesting - now does this sound like a country that is punishing these people:

 

Despite challenges in accessing basic primary care services in El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras, each country reports high immunization coverage among children. Vaccination coverage in El Salvador varies from 90% to 93%, depending on the vaccine, while vaccination coverage ranges from 93% to 98% and 88% to 93% in Guatemala and Honduras, respectively19 (UNICEF, Country statistics 2015.). El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras administer vaccines in accordance with the World Health Organization’s (WHO) Expanded Program on Immunization.

 

That is better than some U.S. States (Red, Blue or Purple) - especially the ones that have a philosophical exemption.

 

These countries do give the (birth -dose) of the Hep B vaccination but not sure if they receive the other (2) doses in infancy unless they have documentation.  Those who seem to be at-risk are further screened.

 

Specific Health Conditions of those from this area -:https://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugeehealth/profiles/central-american/health-information/infectious-d...

There are several arborviruses - Dengue, chikungunya, and Zika viruses cause mosquito-borne infections of increasing concern.

 

So I would say, yes, we should exert care -

 

How about first we stop ripping infants and children out of their mother's arms then deporting the mother as Trump ordered to discourage refugees from coming here? And maybe putting children in cages could stop, along with tying them to chairs and beating them - can we dispense with that as well?  And perhaps we could find a better way of housing them then sending them to unregulated uninspected for-profit concentration camps where the kids sleep on concrete floors of abandoned Walmarts at a cost of $730 tax payer dollars a day?

 

Then to make sure none of this every happens AGAIN in America, we can get rid of all the elected Republicans who still support the ToadPOTUS WHO CAUSED  ORDERED  IT TO HAPPEN.

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@Centristsin2010 

 

According to the CDC :  https://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugeehealth/profiles/central-american/priority-health-conditions/inde...

Based on available data, the issues listed below are prevalent priority health conditions that healthcare providers should consider when caring for refugees from El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras.

And this, I found especially interesting - now does this sound like a country that is punishing these people:

 

Despite challenges in accessing basic primary care services in El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras, each country reports high immunization coverage among children. Vaccination coverage in El Salvador varies from 90% to 93%, depending on the vaccine, while vaccination coverage ranges from 93% to 98% and 88% to 93% in Guatemala and Honduras, respectively19 (UNICEF, Country statistics 2015.). El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras administer vaccines in accordance with the World Health Organization’s (WHO) Expanded Program on Immunization.

 

That is better than some U.S. States (Red, Blue or Purple) - especially the ones that have a philosophical exemption.

 

These countries do give the (birth -dose) of the Hep B vaccination but not sure if they receive the other (2) doses in infancy unless they have documentation.  Those who seem to be at-risk are further screened.

 

Specific Health Conditions of those from this area -:https://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugeehealth/profiles/central-american/health-information/infectious-d...

There are several arborviruses - Dengue, chikungunya, and Zika viruses cause mosquito-borne infections of increasing concern.

 

So I would say, yes, we should exert care -

 
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The problem is the anti-vaccers who seem to be almost all Republicans. Think its because they've become so dependent on the GOPerLords for their information, they can no longer distinguish fact from fiction.

 

Not a new problem - seems Jenner had a cadry of medical Luddites trying to keep people contracting small pox, using the same arguments as today's fans of the plague.

 

Is this the result of Regressives demanding teachers tell students their ideas all have equal value? Probably.

 

 

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Cent,

Just more untruths from the President for his Wall.

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   Meanwhile. childhood diseases that really do have negative sequale are on the rise in the US.   Both measles and mumps, because some still believe in the autism / vaccination research that was a total fraud.  

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Are illegal immigrants bringing ‘tremendous’ disease across the border, as Trump says? Unlikely

 

Are undocumented immigrants bringing high levels of infectious disease into the United States?

 

That’s one of the claims made by Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, who has made opposition to illegal immigration one of the cornerstones of his campaign.

 

"Tremendous infectious disease is pouring across the border," Trump said in a statement released on July 6, 2015. "The United States has become a dumping ground for Mexico and, in fact, for many other parts of the world."

 

This is the latest iteration of an old claim.

 

Last year, we fact-checked a statement by Rep. Phil Gingrey, R-Ga., that there are "reports" of undocumented minors reaching the border "carrying deadly diseases such as … Ebola virus." Because the outbreak of Ebola was occurring in Africa -- rather than in Central America, where most of the unaccompanied children were coming from -- we rated the claim Pants on Fire.

But Trump’s claim is broader. We wondered: Is he right about the threat to Americans’ health? We asked Trump’s camp for evidence, but they did not get back to us. We also asked the Centers for Disease Control, which referred us to the Department of Health and Human Services. HHS did not respond to our inquiries.

 

So we sought guidance from medical experts. Their consensus was that there’s essentially no hard data on the question of whether unusual levels of disease are flowing into the United States due to undocumented immigrants.

 

For this reason, we aren’t putting Trump’s claim on the Truth-O-Meter, but we thought readers would be interested to hear what we found.

 

The CDC, on its website, acknowledges that there’s a risk, though it’s important to note that the risk doesn’t stem exclusively from undocumented immigrants. Indeed, they probably represent a distinct minority of border crossers. Approximately 300 million legal crossings take place from Mexico into the United States annually along the 1,969-mile border, and about 15 million Americans visit Mexico each year, according to CDC.

 

"The sheer number of people who live, work, and travel between the United States and Mexico has led to a sharing of culture and commerce, as well as the easy transportation of infectious diseases," CDC writes on its website. "The large movement of people across the United States and Mexico border has led to an increase in health issues, particularly infectious diseases such as tuberculosis."

 

For this reason, CDC and its Mexican counterpart have established a disease-surveillance infrastructure on the border.

 

CDC specifically cites the possibility of the cross-border movement of "HIV, measles, pertussis, rubella, rabies, hepatitis A, influenza, tuberculosis, shigellosis, syphilis, Mycobacterium bovis infection, brucellosis, and foodborne diseases, such as infections associated with raw cheese and produce," though vaccination has helped reduce the risk.

 

So what outbreaks have been reported at the border? Not many.

 

In July 2014, when a surge of undocumented minors from Central America was heading toward the U.S.-Mexico border, a union that represents border patrol officers announced that an agent had been diagnosed with scabies while processing such migrants. Scabies is an itchy skin condition caused by a mite that is highly contagious, though also easily treated, according to the Mayo Clinic. It’s analogous to head lice.

 

A more serious risk -- if it materialized, which it hasn’t -- is tuberculosis. Tuberculosis is more common in other countries it is in the United States. But border officials are well aware of the threat and are on the lookout.

 

A spokesman for the HHS Administration for Children and Families told NBC Newsin 2014 that "when children come into the Department of Health and Human Services program, they are given a well-child exam and given all needed childhood vaccinations to protect against communicable diseases. They are also screened for tuberculosis, and receive a mental health exam. If children are determined to have any communicable disease or have been exposed to a communicable disease, they are placed in a program or facility that has the capacity to quarantine."

 

Meanwhile, Mark Ward of Texas Children’s Hospital, who is president of the Texas Pediatric Society, told NBC that "as might be expected from children that had endured long journeys, they are tired," and some had common diarrheal and respiratory illnesses. Martin Garza, a Texas pediatrician who is caring for immigrants in McAllen, Texas, concurred, telling NBC that "they have common colds and other respiratory infections that kids get every day, stomach pain and constipation or diarrhea."

 

"There is no evidence whatsoever that this is so," said Arthur Caplan, director of the division of medical ethics at New York University’s Langone Medical Center. "No study or survey shows this. There is no outbreak or bump in disease attributable to immigrants."

 

Thomas Fekete, the section chief for infectious diseases at the Temple University School of Medicine, agreed.

 

"When it comes to the health of immigrants, it is possible that undocumented folks have more health conditions that warrant concern, but I do not know of a scientific or quantitative assessment," Fekete said. "Workers are probably in decent health as the work itself is arduous.

 

But there are some illnesses that occur more commonly in poor countries, such as tuberculosis, and some that occur more commonly because of farming or lifestyle issues, such as cysticercosis. But the notion that the Mexican government is orchestating the movement of sick Mexicans to the U.S. is wacky."

 

He added, "Even if their health is in some ways worse than ours, we have the capacity to deal with this and produce minimum drag on our economy."

 

Are illegal immigrants bringing ‘tremendous’ disease across the border, as Trump says? Unlikely


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