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The merits of Universal Health Care aren't the issue for me and many others.

 

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Of course not. We've got Medicare. We like Medicare. The nerve of young people wanting Medicare, too. Let them wait until they're 65 like we did. If they don't like it, they can move to any of the many countries that provide healthcare for all its people. 

 

Joe Biden: "And so, the younger generation now tells me how tough things are — give me a break!.

No no, I have no empathy for it. Give me a break."

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I like Biden's strategy much better. He wants to improve the flaws in Obamacare and add a Public Option (which is what Obama originally wanted). I think the Public Option is the best solution.

 

Gruffstuff asked, "Then why don't you just say that?"

 

I'm confused. Didn't I just say that above?

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I like Biden's strategy much better. He wants to improve the flaws in Obamacare and add a Public Option (which is what Obama originally wanted). I think the Public Option is the best solution.

 

Then why don't you just say that?

 

Instead of comparing Sanders to Stalin.

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"It would be a cruel twist to have a president who admires Russia's current dictatorship running against a challenger who praised our old one."

 

So basically we have to look out for the totalitarianism of current day Germany.

 

I think I understand.

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The merits of Universal Health Care aren't the issue for me and many others. The issues are forcing everyone to give up private health insurance and the staggering cost of MFA. In other words, it's probably a good idea,  but MFA will almost double the federal budget over the next decade.

 

That's why I like Biden's strategy much better. He wants to improve the flaws in Obamacare and add a Public Option (which is what Obama originally wanted). I think the Public Option is the best solution.

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@JANMB wrote:

Criticalthinking wrote ---Garry Kasparov: The danger of nominating Sanders
Opinion by Garry Kasparov
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IF Bernie is able to win the nomination, the GOP PACs and Trump campaign will hang him by his own words, in his own voice, from videos of him speaking in the Soviet Union, speaking in Burlington City Hall in glowing terms of Soviet and Cuban leaders and programs.   Just recently, Sanders defended his early convictions as apparently it matters not if the socialist countries murder or torture as long as they provide education and healthcare.  

Sanders hung a Soviet flag in his office in honor of Burlington’s Soviet sister city, Yaroslavl, where he honeymooned in 1988 with his second wife.   

THEN his ideology     ..Single-payer health care has already been tried—and failed—in Sanders’s home state of Vermont, where the proposal collapsed under its own weight last year.   Sanders wants to break up the tech--companies. and hasn't learned anything  since     AT&T was actually broken up by the government in 1984. In fact, it was broken up into eight different companies. Today, almost all those companies are once again part of AT&T  


Universal health care has been proven to work in Norway, Denmark, Sweden and all over Europe. Universal health care is not some new, untested, communist program that lowers the effectiveness of health care systems. It's spread across Europe because it works. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Message 27 of 36

Obviously Lew doesn't like Kasparov, but his dislike of the man is not the subject of this thread. I happen to think Kasparov made several good points about Bernie.

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Criticalthinking wrote ---Garry Kasparov: The danger of nominating Sanders
Opinion by Garry Kasparov
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IF Bernie is able to win the nomination, the GOP PACs and Trump campaign will hang him by his own words, in his own voice, from videos of him speaking in the Soviet Union, speaking in Burlington City Hall in glowing terms of Soviet and Cuban leaders and programs.   Just recently, Sanders defended his early convictions as apparently it matters not if the socialist countries murder or torture as long as they provide education and healthcare.  

Sanders hung a Soviet flag in his office in honor of Burlington’s Soviet sister city, Yaroslavl, where he honeymooned in 1988 with his second wife.   

THEN his ideology     ..Single-payer health care has already been tried—and failed—in Sanders’s home state of Vermont, where the proposal collapsed under its own weight last year.   Sanders wants to break up the tech--companies. and hasn't learned anything  since     AT&T was actually broken up by the government in 1984. In fact, it was broken up into eight different companies. Today, almost all those companies are once again part of AT&T  

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@williamb39198 wrote:

Okay. Kas may be a dinosaur repeating old info. Except I might only disagree on one point, apparently not enough millions are aware of, or denounce American politicians contacts or connections to russia...that is not good, especially if in support of putin's agenda against the US. 


And how many of those millions do you think read Garry Kasparov? Because I've read plenty by Mr. Kasparov (including his book in which he claims to have foreseen every mistake in American foriegn policy in Kosovo, Bosnia, Russia, and throughout Eastern Europe). Plenty of us saw those mistakes ourselves when we lived through that time and were paying attention.

 

Have I mentioned he annoy... I probably have.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I don't agree with everything Garry Kasparov says, but then I don't agree with everything anybody says ... but I did happen to see this little gem and thought it very appropriate.

 

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Democracy says "trust me because we must trust each other to thrive". Authoritarians say "trust me because you have no choice" and as quickly as possible shift to repression and discarding trust entirely.

 

Now doesn't that sounds familiar?

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