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It really confuses me that the Republicans alway want to cut social security and medical, but there's always people that uses those services vote Republican. Isn't that cutting your nose off to spite your face?

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GOP Speaker Ryan Cuts OUR Social Security, gets $85,000 pension at age 48

 

Get ready for round two of starving the beast.

 

https://thinkprogress.org/republicans-voted-tax-bill-cut-medicare-social-security-pay-488a9bcbba7d/

 

Republicans admit they’ll slash Medicare, Social Security to pay for their tax cuts "I do think we need to deal with some of our spending."

 

Slowly but surely, Republicans that supported the trillion dollar Trump tax bill are revealing their true motivations: slashing Medicare and Social Security.

 

During a Sunday interview with CNBC’s John Harwood, Rep. Steve Stivers (R-OH) urged entitlement reform as the deficit continues to balloon as a result of the GOP tax cuts.

“I do think we need to deal with some of our spending,” Stivers said. “We’ve got try to figure out how to spend less.”

 

Stivers, who also serves as chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee (NRCC), is a self-proclaimed “budget hawk” and frequently criticized national debt levels under the Obama administration. Despite his previous trepidation at increasing the deficit, he voted in favor of a costly tax bill that even the White House admitted would not pay for itself over time.

 

In his interview with CNBC, Stivers admitted this as well saying, “I don’t think that tax cuts, themselves, can grow the economy for 20 or 30 years.”

 

But Republican politicians did not go into the tax bill vote blind. There were multiple studies released after the bill was drafted that showed massive tax cuts for the wealthy would only add to the deficit.

 

The conservative-leaning Tax Foundation released a report the week of the tax bill vote that found the GOP bill would lead to a 1.7 percent increase in gross domestic product over the long term and bring in an extra $600 billion in revenue. Even after factoring in that growth, however, the deficit would still total $448 billion over the next decade.

 

The nonpartisan Joint Committee on Taxation specifically shot down the idea that the bill would pay for itself, stating in analysis on December 11 last year that it would increase federal interest costs by $51 billion over ten years and would cost approximately $1 trillion.

 

Stivers is far from the first Republican to hint at cutting crucial programs to help drive down the national debt, but he is the first to specifically link it to the financial failures of the tax bill.

 

House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI)

 

House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI) said outright last year that Medicare and Medicaid were his next targets for 2018, following the passage of the tax bill.

 

“We’re going to have to get back next year at entitlement reform, which is how you tackle the debt and the deficit,” Ryan said during December appearance on Ross Kaminsky’s talk radio show. “…Frankly, it’s the health care entitlements that are the big drivers of our debt, so we spend more time on the health care entitlements — because that’s really where the problem lies, fiscally speaking.”

 

Sen. Pat Toomey (R-PA)

 

Immediately following the tax bill’s passage in December last year, CNN’s Jake Tapper asked Sen. Pat Toomey (R-PA) how he could simultaneously vote for a huge tax cut for the rich while advocating cuts to Medicare and Medicaid.

 

“We’ve got entitlement spending that is not sustainable,” Toomey replied. “These big spending programs that are growing faster than the economy. You can’t tax your way out of that problem. You’ve got to make some curbs.”

 

Sen. John Thune (R-SD)

 

Sen. John Thune (R-SD) told the Washington Post early last December that Congress could consider entitlement reforms as means to cut government spending and reduce the deficit stemming from the tax bill.

 

“If we’re going to do something about spending and debt, we have to get faster growth in the economy — which I hope tax reform will achieve. But we have also got to take on making our entitlement programs more sustainable,” Thune said. “I think there is support, generally, here for entitlement reform.”

 

Rep. Tom Cole (R-OK)

 

Cole has admitted in the past he is not a “deep economic thinker,” yet believes Medicare and Social Security, rather than huge handouts for the wealthiest Americans, are what the country should be concerned about.

 

“If someone wants to get serious about debt, come talk to me about entitlements,” he explained. “Tax cuts produce growth, entitlement spending doesn’t.”

 

That Republicans have their eye on slashing government programs comes as no surprise, of course. Shortly after Congress passed the tax bill, op-ed columnist Bryce Covert of The New York Times warned of the “Trojan horse” hidden in the legislation that would serve as a setup for steep cuts.

 

“Republican leaders have wanted to do this for a long time. Mr. Ryan has been salivating over cutting Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security for as long as he’s had a political career. Mr. Trump’s 2018 budget proposal, released well ahead of the tax legislation, named welfare reform’ one of its core pillars,” she wrote. “…Now that they’ve succeeded in passing a tax package that will reduce government revenues so much, the ensuing cost will serve as the excuse to get everything else they want.”

 

 

 

When this round of spend our way out of debt fails it will be time for billionaires to get another tax cut.

 

Do you have a picture of Ryan salivating or is that just more of the hate filled drama of the left?

 

If we were to be faithful to the concept of FDR just imagine the "collect on your SS" age today. So, it has been known for decades that adjustments have been needed and the pols have kicked the can down the road. Now, someone is seriously looking at that can.

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GOP Speaker Ryan Cuts OUR Social Security, gets $85,000 pension at age 48

 

Get ready for round two of starving the beast.

 

https://thinkprogress.org/republicans-voted-tax-bill-cut-medicare-social-security-pay-488a9bcbba7d/

 

Republicans admit they’ll slash Medicare, Social Security to pay for their tax cuts "I do think we need to deal with some of our spending."

 

Slowly but surely, Republicans that supported the trillion dollar Trump tax bill are revealing their true motivations: slashing Medicare and Social Security.

 

During a Sunday interview with CNBC’s John Harwood, Rep. Steve Stivers (R-OH) urged entitlement reform as the deficit continues to balloon as a result of the GOP tax cuts.

“I do think we need to deal with some of our spending,” Stivers said. “We’ve got try to figure out how to spend less.”

 

Stivers, who also serves as chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee (NRCC), is a self-proclaimed “budget hawk” and frequently criticized national debt levels under the Obama administration. Despite his previous trepidation at increasing the deficit, he voted in favor of a costly tax bill that even the White House admitted would not pay for itself over time.

 

In his interview with CNBC, Stivers admitted this as well saying, “I don’t think that tax cuts, themselves, can grow the economy for 20 or 30 years.”

 

But Republican politicians did not go into the tax bill vote blind. There were multiple studies released after the bill was drafted that showed massive tax cuts for the wealthy would only add to the deficit.

 

The conservative-leaning Tax Foundation released a report the week of the tax bill vote that found the GOP bill would lead to a 1.7 percent increase in gross domestic product over the long term and bring in an extra $600 billion in revenue. Even after factoring in that growth, however, the deficit would still total $448 billion over the next decade.

 

The nonpartisan Joint Committee on Taxation specifically shot down the idea that the bill would pay for itself, stating in analysis on December 11 last year that it would increase federal interest costs by $51 billion over ten years and would cost approximately $1 trillion.

 

Stivers is far from the first Republican to hint at cutting crucial programs to help drive down the national debt, but he is the first to specifically link it to the financial failures of the tax bill.

 

House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI)

 

House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI) said outright last year that Medicare and Medicaid were his next targets for 2018, following the passage of the tax bill.

 

“We’re going to have to get back next year at entitlement reform, which is how you tackle the debt and the deficit,” Ryan said during December appearance on Ross Kaminsky’s talk radio show. “…Frankly, it’s the health care entitlements that are the big drivers of our debt, so we spend more time on the health care entitlements — because that’s really where the problem lies, fiscally speaking.”

 

Sen. Pat Toomey (R-PA)

 

Immediately following the tax bill’s passage in December last year, CNN’s Jake Tapper asked Sen. Pat Toomey (R-PA) how he could simultaneously vote for a huge tax cut for the rich while advocating cuts to Medicare and Medicaid.

 

“We’ve got entitlement spending that is not sustainable,” Toomey replied. “These big spending programs that are growing faster than the economy. You can’t tax your way out of that problem. You’ve got to make some curbs.”

 

Sen. John Thune (R-SD)

 

Sen. John Thune (R-SD) told the Washington Post early last December that Congress could consider entitlement reforms as means to cut government spending and reduce the deficit stemming from the tax bill.

 

“If we’re going to do something about spending and debt, we have to get faster growth in the economy — which I hope tax reform will achieve. But we have also got to take on making our entitlement programs more sustainable,” Thune said. “I think there is support, generally, here for entitlement reform.”

 

Rep. Tom Cole (R-OK)

 

Cole has admitted in the past he is not a “deep economic thinker,” yet believes Medicare and Social Security, rather than huge handouts for the wealthiest Americans, are what the country should be concerned about.

 

“If someone wants to get serious about debt, come talk to me about entitlements,” he explained. “Tax cuts produce growth, entitlement spending doesn’t.”

 

That Republicans have their eye on slashing government programs comes as no surprise, of course. Shortly after Congress passed the tax bill, op-ed columnist Bryce Covert of The New York Times warned of the “Trojan horse” hidden in the legislation that would serve as a setup for steep cuts.

 

“Republican leaders have wanted to do this for a long time. Mr. Ryan has been salivating over cutting Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security for as long as he’s had a political career. Mr. Trump’s 2018 budget proposal, released well ahead of the tax legislation, named welfare reform’ one of its core pillars,” she wrote. “…Now that they’ve succeeded in passing a tax package that will reduce government revenues so much, the ensuing cost will serve as the excuse to get everything else they want.”

 

 

 

When this round of spend our way out of debt fails it will be time for billionaires to get another tax cut.

 

 

 

 
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Trump's One Trillion Dollar Deficit arises out of Trump's Vicious Rich Republican Tax Cuts, 90% of the Trump Tax Cut went to the top 10% wealthiest/richest Americans. The richest people need no help, but get 90% of the help. My definition of Vicious Greedy, CRUEL Republicans. No help for the people who need help.  A recent survey found that 50% of the American People could NOT come up with $400 CASH IN AN EMERGENCY.  They need help and got none from the Trump Republican Tax Cut Bill. 

 

Watch Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders(D-VT) prove that duplicitious, deceitful, dishonest Republicans will steal more from US, those who have nothing, to give more to those that have everything. Senator Pat Toomey(R-PA) and Senator Marco Rubio(R-FL) aren't even very good lying liars. 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PcrHzPZRKk

 

 

Do you know how much Trump got from Vicious Rich Republican Tax Cuts? Well, the average person making $25,000 to 40,000 a year made $4 a week. Worse yet remember those 1000 Carrier Indiana jobs that Trump and Carrier .promised that Trump saved from being shipped to Mexico. Well, the last 143 of those Carrier jobs was shipped to Mexico

 

 

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As Yogi Berra said, "It's deja vu all over again".

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Trump's One Trillion Dollar Deficit arises out of Trump's Vicious Rich Republican Tax Cuts, 90% of the Trump Tax Cut went to the top 10% wealthiest/richest Americans. The richest people need no help, but get 90% of the help. My definition of Vicious Greedy, CRUEL Republicans. No help for the people who need help.  A recent survey found that 50% of the American People could NOT come up with $400 CASH IN AN EMERGENCY.  They need help and got none from the Trump Republican Tax Cut Bill. 

 

Watch Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders(D-VT) prove that duplicitious, deceitful, dishonest Republicans will steal more from US, those who have nothing, to give more to those that have everything. Senator Pat Toomey(R-PA) and Senator Marco Rubio(R-FL) aren't even very good lying liars. 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PcrHzPZRKk

 

 

Do you know how much Trump got from Vicious Rich Republican Tax Cuts? Well, the average person making $25,000 to 40,000 a year made $4 a week. Worse yet remember those 1000 Carrier Indiana jobs that Trump and Carrier .promised that Trump saved from being shipped to Mexico. Well, the last 143 of those Carrier jobs was shipped to Mexico

 

 

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   As a reminder, he also retains control of his PAC money.   Those who have millions in those funding areas, often continue to use them in politics and create a Foundation in their own name so that they can spend that money as a "non-profit" who can hire themselves or family members to keep the wealth in the family.    Reminder he did nothing to become wealthy, he married into it.  

PRO-LIFE is Affordable Healthcare for ALL .
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@Olderscout66 wrote:

Republicans have changed the Democratic idea of tax and spend into spend and spend.

 

Their only solution to the Social Security funding problem is for people earning less than $118,500 to pay more, work longer and receive less.

 

But if we raise the cap to $250,000, index it so it always covers 90% of income, the problem is SOLVED. The barely rich pay what the poor pay, the very rich won't even notice.

 

Why not fix the problem by getting rid of the Republicans that refuse to fix it?

 


Based on SS rules, that would be raising the SS payout to the 5%ers who you hate and envy so. Is that O.K. with you?

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Republican Speaker Paul Ryan told VICIOUS RICH REPUBLICANS that Social Security and Medicare ARE WELFARE entitlements.

Despite the dramatic use of caps and "VICIOUS RICH REPUBLICANS", that is not true. So, since the rest of the post is based on it, the post has no value.

 

Speaker Ryan and Donald J. Trump have called for massive cuts in Social Security and Medicare to pay for GOP MASSIVE VICIOUS RICH REPUBLICAN TAX CUTS. A 71-year-old man listening to Ryan's attack on the elderly and Social Security Administration screamed that he paid Social Security/FICA taxes for 50 years: IT IS MY PENSION AND REPUBLICAN PAUL RYAN IS A THIEF. Ryan told police to beat-up and arrest the elderly man. As an interesting footnote, GOP Speaker Ryan is retiring at the end of this session of Congress. Paul Ryan will be 48-years-old and will IMMEDIATELY RECEIVE AN $85,000 a year pension. The average Social Security Pension for US is $12,000 a year paid after a recipient has worked at least a minimum of 40 quarters/TEN YEARS EMPLOYMENT and is 62-years-old. Georgia Republican Party IF YOU HATE YOUR GRANNY/NANA YOU MUST VOTE REPUBLICAN. IF YOU LOVE YOUR GRANNY/NANA VOTE DEMOCRAT!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBhdXfCdaA8


 

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Republicans have changed the Democratic idea of tax and spend into spend and spend.

 

Their only solution to the Social Security funding problem is for people earning less than $118,500 to pay more, work longer and receive less.

 

But if we raise the cap to $250,000, index it so it always covers 90% of income, the problem is SOLVED. The barely rich pay what the poor pay, the very rich won't even notice.

 

Why not fix the problem by getting rid of the Republicans that refuse to fix it?

 

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Republican Speaker Paul Ryan told VICIOUS RICH REPUBLICANS that Social Security and Medicare ARE WELFARE entitlements. Speaker Ryan and Donald J. Trump have called for massive cuts in Social Security and Medicare to pay for GOP MASSIVE VICIOUS RICH REPUBLICAN TAX CUTS. A 71-year-old man listening to Ryan's attack on the elderly and Social Security Administration screamed that he paid Social Security/FICA taxes for 50 years: IT IS MY PENSION AND REPUBLICAN PAUL RYAN IS A THIEF. Ryan told police to beat-up and arrest the elderly man. As an interesting footnote, GOP Speaker Ryan is retiring at the end of this session of Congress. Paul Ryan will be 48-years-old and will IMMEDIATELY RECEIVE AN $85,000 a year pension. The average Social Security Pension for US is $12,000 a year paid after a recipient has worked at least a minimum of 40 quarters/TEN YEARS EMPLOYMENT and is 62-years-old. Georgia Republican Party IF YOU HATE YOUR GRANNY/NANA YOU MUST VOTE REPUBLICAN. IF YOU LOVE YOUR GRANNY/NANA VOTE DEMOCRAT!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBhdXfCdaA8

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