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RK's problem is he cannot distinguish between real news and Fox propaganda. All networks are not alike, none of them are like Fox. 

 

Watch Fox and they will have a story (a lie they want their low IQ users to believe), so they repeat it endlessly. That's their MO. Unfortunately, the truth is irrelvant when you're in the business of creating propaganda. But that's why RK religiously watched Fox.

 

The other news organizations have professional standards, something Fox never heard of. Are they perfect? No, everyone makes mistakes but everyone doesn't deliberately tells LIES like Fox.


Take the station "Fox" and replace it with "CNN" or "MSNBC" and read your post again carefully. All stations have their biases and Fox, CNN, and MSNBC are the strongest biases. The network stations are biased to the left but not anywhere near as radical as the above.

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RK's problem is he cannot distinguish between real news and Fox propaganda. All networks are not alike, none of them are like Fox. 

 

Watch Fox and they will have a story (a lie they want their low IQ users to believe), so they repeat it endlessly. That's their MO. Unfortunately, the truth is irrelvant when you're in the business of creating propaganda. But that's why RK religiously watched Fox.

 

The other news organizations have professional standards, something Fox never heard of. Are they perfect? No, everyone makes mistakes but everyone doesn't deliberately tells LIES like Fox.

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   Hilarious, ignoblers goes on rant to say they can debate....but certainly don't lay out any information, just rants.    Apparently they have forgotten all the name calling that their current WH resident has engaged in.     These folks must not be reading headlines from around the world today and the name calling by the pundits and members of WH staff.        When these ignoble folks don't bother to even read the tweets of their leader, then it is no wonder that they all revert to blah blah blah rants.  

 

    Did they miss that Pizzagate blogger is pushing Dugin nonsense in Russia?

    Did they miss that Fox spox called Donald a dictator today?

    Did they miss the name calling by Navarro today?

    Did they miss the spin by Kudlow today?

    Did they miss the new link between UK / Russia / USA connection today?

 

   All topics that should interest the ignoblers - but instead they just rant and rant and rant.    Perhaps they are just paid Russian bots or brainwashed by them, like the 3 bozos in KS.   

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Since Ike left office, Republcians have bewailed their fate of not having any credible sources advancing their policies and beliefs, so the created Heritage Foundation for the express purpose of inventing carefully crafted defenses of their fact-deprived beliefs, and now those who write these erudite sounding shams have a place at the table when weighty matters are being discussed. The fact these "pundits" haven't been able to actually DEBATE an issue since WF Buckley left is of no consequence to their supporters - they just like to hear someone using fancy words to describe plots to redistribute wealth from the middle to the top while persecuting non-whites.

 

But that wasn't enough because the actual factual news braodcasts exposed their lies and explained their scams every night, so they smuggled Lord Voldamurdock into the country much as the Germans did with Lenin and now Citizen Murdock has a 24/7 spewing of lies and falsifications spiked with absurd conspiracy theories called FOX.

 

The lofo base of the GOP hears important sounding voices saying the things they say to themselves and have come to believe their deepest racism and most absurd theories of economics must be true, so they vote against their own interests and think its being American.

 

Sad for them, sadder still for the sane people of the World.


I have been around since Ike left office and I do not recall "bewailing".

 

And your claim that my side of the street can't debate - well, you don't see us making up Der Trumper, Lord Voldamurdoch, or seeing everything in terms of the Germany of the '30s. We are quite capable of debate without calling everyone on the other side Nazi, fascist, and the rest including my two favorites - GOPerDupes and ignobelers. And we certainly do not claim "All Democrats suck"  or calling our President "the pig in the White House". Not only are we capable of debate - but we have more class too.

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Since Ike left office, Republcians have bewailed their fate of not having any credible sources advancing their policies and beliefs, so the created Heritage Foundation for the express purpose of inventing carefully crafted defenses of their fact-deprived beliefs, and now those who write these erudite sounding shams have a place at the table when weighty matters are being discussed. The fact these "pundits" haven't been able to actually DEBATE an issue since WF Buckley left is of no consequence to their supporters - they just like to hear someone using fancy words to describe plots to redistribute wealth from the middle to the top while persecuting non-whites.

 

But that wasn't enough because the actual factual news braodcasts exposed their lies and explained their scams every night, so they smuggled Lord Voldamurdock into the country much as the Germans did with Lenin and now Citizen Murdock has a 24/7 spewing of lies and falsifications spiked with absurd conspiracy theories called FOX.

 

The lofo base of the GOP hears important sounding voices saying the things they say to themselves and have come to believe their deepest racism and most absurd theories of economics must be true, so they vote against their own interests and think its being American.

 

Sad for them, sadder still for the sane people of the World.

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Why does RK continue to ignore reality in his never ending quest to defend everything his hero in the White House says and does?

 

Let me repeat what RK keeps ignoring. Most people have no problem with a news network that concentrates on the issues deemed important by those on the far right. Got it yet RK?

 

What I described above is NOT the objection to Fox. They are NOT a news network, they are a radical right wing propaganda network. Their goal isn't news or the truth, it's propping up and defending the Trump Presidency. In that attempt, Fox uses the tried and true Joseph Goebbels formula. Repeat a bogus story every day until those listening to your story believe it's true. With Fox viewers, that doesn't take long because they never do their own research.


What ct seems to be having a problem understanding is that rk does not dispute the degree to which Fox is purely a "news station". rk then goes on to say that the same can be said about so many other "news" sources. rk does not like that but he understands the need for left/right balance which is what the combination available out there today provides.

 

Example - here is something from a CNN "newsperson" (Jake Tapper):

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Why does RK continue to ignore reality in his never ending quest to defend everything his hero in the White House says and does?

 

Let me repeat what RK keeps ignoring. Most people have no problem with a news network that concentrates on the issues deemed important by those on the far right. Got it yet RK?

 

What I described above is NOT the objection to Fox. They are NOT a news network, they are a radical right wing propaganda network. Their goal isn't news or the truth, it's propping up and defending the Trump Presidency. In that attempt, Fox uses the tried and true Joseph Goebbels formula. Repeat a bogus story every day until those listening to your story believe it's true. With Fox viewers, that doesn't take long because they never do their own research.

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@CriticalThinking wrote:

It's very clear that Trump is a pathological liar. What kind of person dedicates themselves to praising and defending a liar? I think you can answer that question yourself. 

 

Since the goal of Fox is to defend and protect Trump World, they are by definition, lying and fraudulently reporting what they laughingly call news. I would describe their fraudulent reporting as PROPAGANDA.


CeeTee, you are absolutely correct.  One tries so hard, again and again to defend trump and Fox news.

 

As has been stated, Lt Colonial Peters was a military analysist for Fox News for TEN years and most Fox viewers enjoyed his analysis and his views.  He is a Republican and say's he voted Republican most of his life.  He didn't support Hillary, but said he did vote for her because he believed trump was dangerous.....again, he voted for Hillary because he was concerned about the country under trump....that's reasonable.  Fox has always been between right and far-right, but as he said, Fox became a propaganda machine for trump and the far-right.  He also said that he believes Putin has "a grip on trump".  He also said, "Over my decade at Fox, I was long proud of the association," Peters wrote in an email that was distributed to colleagues at Fox News, and "now I am ashamed."

 

So one poster attempts to divert the facts claiming he was a Hillary supporter.

 

Ex-Fox employees have said for years that Fox isn't factual and distorts the news and has a far-right bent and is far from from, "Fair and Balance".

 

And then there are the many for employees interviewed in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outfoxed

 

  • Interviews with former Fox News journalists, discussing incidents where Fox News allegedly pressured journalists to slant their reports towards support for the Republican Party.[7]
  • Instances where Fox News commentators such as Bill O'Reilly intimidate guests with whom they disagree, such as author and activist Jeremy Glick.[8]
  • Studies which claim more airtime and coverage is consistently given to Republican politicians, particularly those in the George W. Bush administration, than to Democrats.[7]
  • Examination of whether Fox News' premature result-calling of the 2000 presidential election contributed to George W. Bush officially being elected.[8]
  • Scrutiny of Fox News management, including Murdoch and president Roger Ailes, both conservatives, in allegedly controlling the network's content, and editorial control from Murdoch down allegedly ensuring which stories and issues are covered and the strongly conservative perspective of such coverage.[1]

Of course we need balance in our news, but we don't need fascist propaganda to sway the ignorant in the population.  So of course those beholden to trump will attack the Lt. Colonial....just the  same old same old....not an objective bone in their body.  It's treasonous.

 


Fox leans right, the rest lean left. How anyone can see that as fascism is a mystery.

 

Pointing out how the Lt. Colonial (he doesn't look that old) has been strongly opposed to the President is hardly an "attack" nor "treasonous".

 

As to your "source" - would you really expect an objective view of things from something associated with George Soros. Come on now, your kudo swapping bud goes bonkers if the Washington Times is mentioned and you use moveon???

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@CriticalThinking wrote:

It's very clear that Trump is a pathological liar. What kind of person dedicates themselves to praising and defending a liar? I think you can answer that question yourself. 

 

Since the goal of Fox is to defend and protect Trump World, they are by definition, lying and fraudulently reporting what they laughingly call news. I would describe their fraudulent reporting as PROPAGANDA.


CeeTee, you are absolutely correct.  One tries so hard, again and again to defend trump and Fox news.

 

As has been stated, Lt Colonial Peters was a military analysist for Fox News for TEN years and most Fox viewers enjoyed his analysis and his views.  He is a Republican and say's he voted Republican most of his life.  He didn't support Hillary, but said he did vote for her because he believed trump was dangerous.....again, he voted for Hillary because he was concerned about the country under trump....that's reasonable.  Fox has always been between right and far-right, but as he said, Fox became a propaganda machine for trump and the far-right.  He also said that he believes Putin has "a grip on trump".  He also said, "Over my decade at Fox, I was long proud of the association," Peters wrote in an email that was distributed to colleagues at Fox News, and "now I am ashamed."

 

So one poster attempts to divert the facts claiming he was a Hillary supporter.

 

Ex-Fox employees have said for years that Fox isn't factual and distorts the news and has a far-right bent and is far from from, "Fair and Balance".

 

And then there are the many for employees interviewed in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outfoxed

 

  • Interviews with former Fox News journalists, discussing incidents where Fox News allegedly pressured journalists to slant their reports towards support for the Republican Party.[7]
  • Instances where Fox News commentators such as Bill O'Reilly intimidate guests with whom they disagree, such as author and activist Jeremy Glick.[8]
  • Studies which claim more airtime and coverage is consistently given to Republican politicians, particularly those in the George W. Bush administration, than to Democrats.[7]
  • Examination of whether Fox News' premature result-calling of the 2000 presidential election contributed to George W. Bush officially being elected.[8]
  • Scrutiny of Fox News management, including Murdoch and president Roger Ailes, both conservatives, in allegedly controlling the network's content, and editorial control from Murdoch down allegedly ensuring which stories and issues are covered and the strongly conservative perspective of such coverage.[1]

Of course we need balance in our news, but we don't need fascist propaganda to sway the ignorant in the population.  So of course those beholden to trump will attack the Lt. Colonial....just the  same old same old....not an objective bone in their body.  It's treasonous.

 


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It's very clear that Trump is a pathological liar. What kind of person dedicates themselves to praising and defending a liar? I think you can answer that question yourself. 

 

Since the goal of Fox is to defend and protect Trump World, they are by definition, lying and fraudulently reporting what they laughingly call news. I would describe their fraudulent reporting as PROPAGANDA.

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