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@rk9152wrote:

@nctarheelwrote: 

I believe an apology is due @Centristsin2010.

 

Well, that ain't gonna happen.


Of course not; those who are "obstinately devoted to their views, biases and predjudices would never own their behavior, or apologize for being wrong; it's not what they do.


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Don't support a fascist?  What does the fascist do?  They attack you verbally in speeches, on Twitter and legally if possible.

As do followers of Saul Alinsky. What political organization does not "attack" their opposite number? I guess to another fascist, Amazon, CNN, Washington Post, Arnold Schwartznegger, NYT, NBC, Mexico, Canada, Mit Romney, John McCain, Florida Power and Light, John Kasich, Ted Cruz, Charles Krauthammer, Macy's, Republican Congress persons....yaeh, you're right RK....his "opposit nember".

 

Bawahahaha....

 

Fascism is a governmental system, not a campaign methodology. No, it's a form of radical authoritarian nationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and control of industry and commerce.  But thanks for playing along....


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@nctarheelwrote: 

I believe an apology is due @Centristsin2010.

 

Well, that ain't gonna happen.


 

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@umbarch64wrote:

Actually, CS, you would do well to heed your own words.  IF you have another definiton from a reputible authoritative source, cite it.  I"m going to give you Webster's:

 

fascism, n.  1.  a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc. and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism. 2. the philosophy, principles or methods of fascism.  3. a fascist movement, esp. the one established by Mussolini in Italy from 1922-43.

And where is our government in that? All pols oppose their opposition, "nationalism"? - we are America, not "just one more country.

 

fascist, n.  1.  anyone who believes in, or sympathizes with fascism.  2.  a member of a fascist movement or party, esp. in Italy.  3.  anyone who is dictatorial.

That certainly doesn't apply.

 

That should about do it, I think.  You can read better than you seem to when you actually want to....I hope.  Seems to me centrist pretty much nailed it.  You, on the other hand............[fill in the blanks....I won't take any more of my time so you don't have to]. 

Yes, that does it - there is no fascism in out government.


 

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@Centristsin2010wrote:

Don't support a fascist?  What does the fascist do?  They attack you verbally in speeches, on Twitter and legally if possible.

As do followers of Saul Alinsky. What political organization does not "attack" their opposite number? Fascism is a governmental system, not a campaign methodology. So, let's get past this silliness.

 

 

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@CS402050wrote:

@Centristsin2010wrote:

Don't support a fascist?  What does the fascist do?  They attack you verbally in speeches, on Twitter and legally if possible.

 

WRONG.  Whether or not someone attacks you verbally has nothing to do with fascism.  You really need to start learning what words mean before you (mis)use them.

 

trump has attacked far to many individuals to list here and which has been addressed within other topics, but several recent examples highlight his fascist behavior.  First, a brief familiarization of the term.  Fascism is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible...  Note it is characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and control of industry and commerce.   Sure sounds like that's what is occuring on several levels.

 

@CS402050,

 

There needs to be some control of emotions here as you begin your comments basically shouting at @Centristsin2010 through use of capitalization. I have read @Centristsin2010 original comments over and over again and believe you are misdirecting your point.

 

First, @Centristsin2010, did not write the first paragraph of his original comment as a definition. He is commenting that Fascists attack you verbally in speeches, on twitter, and through legal means. That, in and of itself, is a true statement. Why? Because not only may Fascists attack you verbally in speeches, on twitter, or through legal means..... anyone can attack you that way.

 

You then insert your shouting word and then go on to belittle @Centristsin2010 by mocking his word definition skills and accuse him (a personal attack) of misusing the words.

 

But the post shows otherwise.

 

His first paragraph, as I have already said, was not meant as a definition; however, the paragraph after your inserted comments certainly does provide a perfectly acceptable definition. He then goes on with the rest of his comments, providing perfectly valid examples.

 

Your propensity to immediately attack one's comments using personal attack phrases such as "you really need to learn what words mean" is demeaning and is meant to humiliate.

 

I believe an apology is due @Centristsin2010.

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Actually, CS, you would do well to heed your own words.  IF you have another definiton from a reputible authoritative source, cite it.  I"m going to give you Webster's:

 

fascism, n.  1.  a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc. and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism. 2. the philosophy, principles or methods of fascism.  3. a fascist movement, esp. the one established by Mussolini in Italy from 1922-43.

 

fascist, n.  1.  anyone who believes in, or sympathizes with fascism.  2.  a member of a fascist movement or party, esp. in Italy.  3.  anyone who is dictatorial.

 

That should about do it, I think.  You can read better than you seem to when you actually want to....I hope.  Seems to me centrist pretty much nailed it.  You, on the other hand............[fill in the blanks....I won't take any more of my time so you don't have to]. 

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@Centristsin2010wrote:

Don't support a fascist?  What does the fascist do?  They attack you verbally in speeches, on Twitter and legally if possible.

 

WRONG.  Whether or not someone attacks you verbally has nothing to do with fascism.  You really need to start learning what words mean before you (mis)use them.

 

trump has attacked far to many individuals to list here and which has been addressed within other topics, but several recent examples highlight his fascist behavior.  First, a brief familiarization of the term.  Fascism is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible...  Note it is characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and control of industry and commerce.   Sure sounds like that's what is occuring on several levels.

 

During trumps campaign he lashed out at CNN and the Washington Post, calling them "Fake News", in part because they showed what a liar he is and perpetuates conspiracy theories, fake stories and consistently lies and misleads ignorant Americans. Today, his administration is doing everything possible, including suing to block the AT&T - Time Warner merger.  There is a ton of information on the Internet if readers wish to better understand this lawsuit, but the facts are that Time Warner owns CNN....is the lawsuit in part to prevent this merger because it would favor CNN?  Many believe so.

 

"The Justice Department announced on Monday that it will sue to block AT&T’s acquisition of Time Warner, pitting the Trump administration against a media business that has turned to mergers to compete with the rise of tech giants like Facebook and Netflix. The $108 billion deal, which would be one of the largest mergers in American history, had been in the works for more than a year.

 

Both Democrats and Republicans have historically approved of these so-called “vertical mergers” between companies operating at different levels of a particular industry. Time Warner, which owns HBO, TNT, and TBS, is mostly in the pure content business, while AT&T, which sells phone and internet access and owns DirecTV, is largely in the media-distribution business. Mergers between such media and distribution companies have rarely faced much scrutiny. For example, the Obama administration approved a similar merger between Comcast and NBCUniversal in 2011."

 

So, that is the mystery of this lawsuit: By what standard would the department approve that deal, but deny the AT&T merger with Time Warner?

There are two starkly different explanations for the Justice Department’s motives. The first is that a merger between two powerful media companies deserves to be blocked, since it provides an obvious temptation for anticompetitive practices. The Justice Department has argued that AT&T could raise the price for rivals to distribute HBO and other Time Warner content and choke off innovation in video and technology. In a New York Times op-ed, Tim Wu, a Columbia Law School professor and antitrust author, wrote that “the department seems right to worry” about the merger.

 

But the second explanation, which leans heavily on controversial claims that first appeared in the Financial Times, argues that the Justice Department is acting purely on President Donald Trump’s behalf to punish CNN, which is owned by Time Warner, for its negative coverage of his administration. While this claim is mostly speculative, it is far from illusory. The president has publicly advocated forusing the department to destroy his rivals, such as Hillary Clinton, in the past.

 

The main reason this lawsuit seems suspicious, though, is that it would appear quite out of character for the Trump administration, which has hailed the need for deregulation. Thus far, the administration has cast itself outwardly pro-business and has done little to indicate that it wants to become an antitrust warrior. Meanwhile, the president’s only other push for the use of antitrust legislation was in his threat to investigate Amazon, whose founder, Jeff Bezos, independently owns The Washington Post, which published negative stories about him.

 

Why the Trump Administration Is Suing to Block the AT&T–Time Warner Merger

 

Is it a fascist move by trump whose always spoke of deregulation?  Maybe....

 

He also has attacked Amazon.

 

Trump keeps up Twitter assault on Amazon, this time criticizing its U.S. Postal Service contract

 

Amazon shares fall 6 percent as Trump renews attack   --------> dictatorial power

 

trump claims Amazon Doesn't Pay Enough Taxes  and far less, moron, since you cut the corporate tax rate.  DUH!

 

In addition, trump has attacked the NFL, calling for a boycott, and many others.  You can find a list here:  62 businesses Trump has targeted on Twitter

 

It obvious to many who can see the fascist tendencies of trump; if you don't kiss his ring or accept his lies, he'll attack.  It's what he does.  Just like the far-right extremists posting here.  It's interesting that the description of fascism includes this, "According to many scholars, fascism—especially once in power—has historically attacked communism, co...

 

Just saying.....


 

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Don't support a fascist?  What does the fascist do?  They attack you verbally in speeches, on Twitter and legally if possible.

 

trump has attacked far to many individuals to list here and which has been addressed within other topics, but several recent examples highlight his fascist behavior.  First, a brief familiarization of the term.  Fascism is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible...  Note it is characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and control of industry and commerce.   Sure sounds like that's what is occuring on several levels.

 

During trumps campaign he lashed out at CNN and the Washington Post, calling them "Fake News", in part because they showed what a liar he is and perpetuates conspiracy theories, fake stories and consistently lies and misleads ignorant Americans. Today, his administration is doing everything possible, including suing to block the AT&T - Time Warner merger.  There is a ton of information on the Internet if readers wish to better understand this lawsuit, but the facts are that Time Warner owns CNN....is the lawsuit in part to prevent this merger because it would favor CNN?  Many believe so.

 

"The Justice Department announced on Monday that it will sue to block AT&T’s acquisition of Time Warner, pitting the Trump administration against a media business that has turned to mergers to compete with the rise of tech giants like Facebook and Netflix. The $108 billion deal, which would be one of the largest mergers in American history, had been in the works for more than a year.

 

Both Democrats and Republicans have historically approved of these so-called “vertical mergers” between companies operating at different levels of a particular industry. Time Warner, which owns HBO, TNT, and TBS, is mostly in the pure content business, while AT&T, which sells phone and internet access and owns DirecTV, is largely in the media-distribution business. Mergers between such media and distribution companies have rarely faced much scrutiny. For example, the Obama administration approved a similar merger between Comcast and NBCUniversal in 2011."

 

So, that is the mystery of this lawsuit: By what standard would the department approve that deal, but deny the AT&T merger with Time Warner?

There are two starkly different explanations for the Justice Department’s motives. The first is that a merger between two powerful media companies deserves to be blocked, since it provides an obvious temptation for anticompetitive practices. The Justice Department has argued that AT&T could raise the price for rivals to distribute HBO and other Time Warner content and choke off innovation in video and technology. In a New York Times op-ed, Tim Wu, a Columbia Law School professor and antitrust author, wrote that “the department seems right to worry” about the merger.

 

But the second explanation, which leans heavily on controversial claims that first appeared in the Financial Times, argues that the Justice Department is acting purely on President Donald Trump’s behalf to punish CNN, which is owned by Time Warner, for its negative coverage of his administration. While this claim is mostly speculative, it is far from illusory. The president has publicly advocated forusing the department to destroy his rivals, such as Hillary Clinton, in the past.

 

The main reason this lawsuit seems suspicious, though, is that it would appear quite out of character for the Trump administration, which has hailed the need for deregulation. Thus far, the administration has cast itself outwardly pro-business and has done little to indicate that it wants to become an antitrust warrior. Meanwhile, the president’s only other push for the use of antitrust legislation was in his threat to investigate Amazon, whose founder, Jeff Bezos, independently owns The Washington Post, which published negative stories about him.

 

Why the Trump Administration Is Suing to Block the AT&T–Time Warner Merger

 

Is it a fascist move by trump whose always spoke of deregulation?  Maybe....

 

He also has attacked Amazon.

 

Trump keeps up Twitter assault on Amazon, this time criticizing its U.S. Postal Service contract

 

Amazon shares fall 6 percent as Trump renews attack   --------> dictatorial power

 

trump claims Amazon Doesn't Pay Enough Taxes  and far less, moron, since you cut the corporate tax rate.  DUH!

 

In addition, trump has attacked the NFL, calling for a boycott, and many others.  You can find a list here:  62 businesses Trump has targeted on Twitter

 

It obvious to many who can see the fascist tendencies of trump; if you don't kiss his ring or accept his lies, he'll attack.  It's what he does.  Just like the far-right extremists posting here.  It's interesting that the description of fascism includes this, "According to many scholars, fascism—especially once in power—has historically attacked communism, co...

 

Just saying.....


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