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Good topic Cent, and spot-non as usual.  Yep trump follows Fascist principles over and over, yet his blind followers support him with the usual denial and accusatory phrases like "blind hatred", etc etc.

 

Trump tries to coerce businesses to do his will. Someone brought up the 'wall'. Trump tries to coerce Congress to fund a wall to fulfill his will and the will of the minority of Americans. I'd like to see the wall put to a vote on a national ballot, it would fail miserably.


He is trying to fulfill his campaign promises by the standard practice - trying to "sell" them.  He failed.  He hasn't repealed and replaced the ACA; Mexico isn't paying for the wall; Muslims are still allowed in the country; He hasn't sued his accusers....  Said he wouldn't cut Medicare, a lie and a failure.  Said he wasn't going to cut Social Security, yet it appears he's trying to cut disability benefits.  Said he'd have a 1.3 trillion dollar infrastructure budget.....nothing even close is in the works....a 4% economy....25% short still.....still hasn't enacted term limits, gotten the death penalty for cop apologists, appointed a Special Counsel to investigate Hillary, change libel laws......I could go on, but I won't....

You are right, there is much he has not been able to accomplish due to the actions of the Courts and the Congress. And that blows up the silly "dictator" meme.

 

 

 


 

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rk9152 says "Reducing government regulations reduces it's power over us."

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It also allows corporations to pollute more and allows Banks , Wall Street and Financial Advisers to rip us off etc , etc , without those regulations. 


Right you are, mandm.  The strawman arguments created and posted by the self-anointed "wise one" are so obvious and pathetic.


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rk9152 says "Reducing government regulations reduces it's power over us."

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It also allows corporations to pollute more and allows Banks , Wall Street and Financial Advisers to rip us off etc , etc , without those regulations. 

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Don't support a fascist?  What does the fascist do?  They attack you verbally in speeches, on Twitter and legally if possible.

As do followers of Saul Alinsky. What political organization does not "attack" their opposite number? Fascism is a governmental system, not a campaign methodology. So, let's get past this silliness.

 

 


No lets stay with fact. Fascism is a form of far right govt. It came into the mainstream before WW2. It was in Germany and Italy. A form of it came to Russia after Stalin took over. You have one person rule under it. It was the first successor to the King or Emperor when all power was in one person. (Japan was still under it until after WW2.). If you go back and look at Germany during the 1930 you can trace the steps Hitler took to become the Dictator in a Fascist Government. Hitler was first elected and used that starting point to gain full power. If you look at what Trump is doing you will see him taking the same steps, and you will see Trump has the same type of enablers doing the same things for him as Hitler did. In Germany Industry & Commerce played a role, as one of the first things to happen was the economy improved, and later on collapsed. We are on the same path Germany was in the 1930.


Again with the"Nazi" nonsense. Is it your point that attacking a political opponent is not common in American politics?

 

Hey, we have posters who still refuse to capitalize President Bush's (43) name.

 

And how about "Trump sucks" - is that "Nazi"? I personally consider it "low class''. But if you want to go "Nazi", so be it.


You are asking questions again and you are not permitted to do that. Ask your leaders to explain it all to you. The new slogan of the far right is. Off to the camps all go who disagree with Trump.


I have yet to hear from the "powers that be" as to your authority as to who is and is not permitted to use question marks. So, I'll proceed as though you are making that up - sorta like being delusional.

 

So, again, Is it your point that attacking a political opponent is not common in American politics?


Asking questions again and that is not permitted. Per Trump rule 456, para 25, sub para. 15 line 589.


You think that the President of the United States has appointed you as a monitor here. Do I have that right?


You are not permitted to ask questions.

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Let's consider that absurd lie that Republicans, esp. Der Trumper, are working to REDUCE the power of the Central Government.

 

The reality is that the only Governmental power the Republicans have ever "reduced" is the power to PROTECT Americans from the psychopathic rapacity of the 0.1%.

 

What Republicans have done is to redistribute tax revenues previously collected at the Federal Level and used for the PUBLIC good and given the money to the Oligarchs. The power to destroy the Middle Class is something the Federal Government lacked until Reagan.

 

Republicans have deregulated financial institutions and slashed staff at the regulatory agencies so 16 million Americans lost their jobs and 8 million American families lost their homes. Since 1929, Government until jrbush had the power to drive 16 million workers into the street and 8 million families from their homes.

 

Republicans have supported Right To Work for Less laws and changed work rules in the Federal Government so around 30% of those doing Government work work for contractors for half the pay and none of the benefits the former Government workers had. The power to destroy the lives of millions of working class citizens is new to Government.

 

If you want American Greatness to be measured in the height of Walls we build around us, vote Republican. If you think American Greatness is the ability to promote our Citizens to reach the highest levels they can, vote Democratic.

It's that simple.

 

Greatness is not measured in walls. Agreed!  Sadly, the walls are needed for national defense. No, it isn't.  It's a narrative created by trump and his Cult Followers to scare others to approving his wall.  What is your alternative - machine guns?  Same as it always has been, significantly fine the companies that hire them. That is so obvious that one not seeing it is truly blinded by their hatred.  LMAO!  So, "rk" and trumpy "trumpy" - oh, grow up  As soon as you do, little brother. claims.....are you worried that Mexico is going to attack the US? No trumpy's immigration desires can't even get passed by his own party, so he changes the narrative. This is not about new immigration policies - it is about illegal immigration. Oh, wait, you falsely claimed it was about National Defense ealier.  So which is it?  Nothing has changed other than ignorant folks are babbling new words to describe their desire.  As a self-proclaimed "wise one" do you  Another lie.  Why LIE?  Shouldn't the truth work in your favor?  It doesn't.  not believe in national borders?


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@rk9152wrote:

@ChasKy53wrote:

Good topic Cent, and spot-non as usual.  Yep trump follows Fascist principles over and over, yet his blind followers support him with the usual denial and accusatory phrases like "blind hatred", etc etc.

 

Trump tries to coerce businesses to do his will. Someone brought up the 'wall'. Trump tries to coerce Congress to fund a wall to fulfill his will and the will of the minority of Americans. I'd like to see the wall put to a vote on a national ballot, it would fail miserably.


He is trying to fulfill his campaign promises by the standard practice - trying to "sell" them.  He failed.  He hasn't repealed and replaced the ACA; Mexico isn't paying for the wall; Muslims are still allowed in the country; He hasn't sued his accusers....  Said he wouldn't cut Medicare, a lie and a failure.  Said he wasn't going to cut Social Security, yet it appears he's trying to cut disability benefits.  Said he'd have a 1.3 trillion dollar infrastructure budget.....nothing even close is in the works....a 4% economy....25% short still.....still hasn't enacted term limits, gotten the death penalty for cop apologists, appointed a Special Counsel to investigate Hillary, change libel laws......I could go on, but I won't....

 

It seems that a "dictator" or "fascist" leader would just "dictate". Like he does.....doesn't mean anyone has to follow what he says.


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@Centristsin2010wrote:

@rk9152wrote:

@Olderscout66wrote:

Let's consider that absurd lie that Republicans, esp. Der Trumper, are working to REDUCE the power of the Central Government.

 

The reality is that the only Governmental power the Republicans have ever "reduced" is the power to PROTECT Americans from the psychopathic rapacity of the 0.1%.

 

What Republicans have done is to redistribute tax revenues previously collected at the Federal Level and used for the PUBLIC good and given the money to the Oligarchs. The power to destroy the Middle Class is something the Federal Government lacked until Reagan.

 

Republicans have deregulated financial institutions and slashed staff at the regulatory agencies so 16 million Americans lost their jobs and 8 million American families lost their homes. Since 1929, Government until jrbush had the power to drive 16 million workers into the street and 8 million families from their homes.

 

Republicans have supported Right To Work for Less laws and changed work rules in the Federal Government so around 30% of those doing Government work work for contractors for half the pay and none of the benefits the former Government workers had. The power to destroy the lives of millions of working class citizens is new to Government.

 

If you want American Greatness to be measured in the height of Walls we build around us, vote Republican. If you think American Greatness is the ability to promote our Citizens to reach the highest levels they can, vote Democratic.

It's that simple.

 

Greatness is not measured in walls. Agreed!  Sadly, the walls are needed for national defense. No, it isn't.  It's a narrative created by trump and his Cult Followers to scare others to approving his wall.  What is your alternative - machine guns?That is so obvious that one not seeing it is truly blinded by their hatred.  LMAO!  So, "rk" and trumpy "trumpy" - oh, grow up claims.....are you worried that Mexico is going to attack the US? No trumpy's immigration desires can't even get passed by his own party, so he changes the narrative. This is not about new immigration policies - it is about illegal immigration. Nothing has changed other than ignorant folks are babbling new words to describe their desire.  As a self-proclaimed "wise one" do you not believe in national borders?


 

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@ChasKy53wrote:

Good topic Cent, and spot-non as usual.  Yep trump follows Fascist principles over and over, yet his blind followers support him with the usual denial and accusatory phrases like "blind hatred", etc etc.

 

Trump tries to coerce businesses to do his will. Someone brought up the 'wall'. Trump tries to coerce Congress to fund a wall to fulfill his will and the will of the minority of Americans. I'd like to see the wall put to a vote on a national ballot, it would fail miserably.


He is trying to fulfill his campaign promises by the standard practice - trying to "sell" them.

 

It seems that a "dictator" or "fascist" leader would just "dictate". Sorta like the President who was your hero, who you loved and adored and worshipped, whose cult you belong to did things - with his phone and his pen.

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@ChasKy53wrote:

Good topic Cent, and spot-non as usual.  Yep trump follows Fascist principles over and over, yet his blind followers support him with the usual denial and accusatory phrases like "blind hatred", etc etc.

 

Trump tries to coerce businesses to do his will. Someone brought up the 'wall'. Trump tries to coerce Congress to fund a wall to fulfill his will and the will of the minority of Americans. I'd like to see the wall put to a vote on a national ballot, it would fail miserably.


Thanks, Chaz. Your comments are also accurate.  trump is running the country as he has his businesses....lie and bully and terminate those he disagree's with. Adults understand the Presidency is about taking advice from those with more knowledge and experience.  The dictator say's, "to Hell with that.  Do as I say and if you can't, or won't, Your Fired!"  By tweet though; he's such a coward.


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@rk9152wrote:

@Olderscout66wrote:

Let's consider that absurd lie that Republicans, esp. Der Trumper, are working to REDUCE the power of the Central Government.

 

The reality is that the only Governmental power the Republicans have ever "reduced" is the power to PROTECT Americans from the psychopathic rapacity of the 0.1%.

 

What Republicans have done is to redistribute tax revenues previously collected at the Federal Level and used for the PUBLIC good and given the money to the Oligarchs. The power to destroy the Middle Class is something the Federal Government lacked until Reagan.

 

Republicans have deregulated financial institutions and slashed staff at the regulatory agencies so 16 million Americans lost their jobs and 8 million American families lost their homes. Since 1929, Government until jrbush had the power to drive 16 million workers into the street and 8 million families from their homes.

 

Republicans have supported Right To Work for Less laws and changed work rules in the Federal Government so around 30% of those doing Government work work for contractors for half the pay and none of the benefits the former Government workers had. The power to destroy the lives of millions of working class citizens is new to Government.

 

If you want American Greatness to be measured in the height of Walls we build around us, vote Republican. If you think American Greatness is the ability to promote our Citizens to reach the highest levels they can, vote Democratic.

It's that simple.

 

Greatness is not measured in walls. Agreed!  Sadly, the walls are needed for national defense. No, it isn't.  It's a narrative created by trump and his Cult Followers to scare others to approving his wall.  That is so obvious that one not seeing it is truly blinded by their hatred.  LMAO!  So, "rk" and trumpy claims.....are you worried that Mexico is going to attack the US?  trumpy's immigration desires can't even get passed by his own party, so he changes the narrative.  Nothing has changed other than ignorant folks are babbling new words to describe their desire.  


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