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@rk9152 wrote:

@NerdyMom wrote:

If 70% of Americans want DACA fixed, why does the GOP find this to be such a sticking point?   


It isn't. In fact, the President extended the time to work it out. However, it is not a budgetary thing, The Dems threw it in to create a shutdown as a partisan weapon.


Sorry, It was doing its job until Trump put it up at budget time. keep insisting its not so, its easily remembered and easily googled. all youare  doing is making your posts a target. But i guess that is kinda fun eh?

 

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@rk9152 wrote:

@NerdyMom wrote:

If 70% of Americans want DACA fixed, why does the GOP find this to be such a sticking point?   


It isn't. In fact, the President extended the time to work it out. However, it is not a budgetary thing, The Dems threw it in to create a shutdown as a partisan weapon.


Did you conviently miss the link I provided detailing Trump opening this can of worms in september?

 

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@afisher wrote:

The statement:  "Despite the rhetorical effort to paste Democrats with 'Schumer's Shutdown' and to redefine what constitutes majority control of the Senate ('60'? Really?), the fact remains that this shutdown rests at the feet of the GOP and it appears a majority of Americans agree," Steele told Politico.

 

It is interesting:   Many National monuments and parks are open but unstaffed.    That is called buring cash.   In case some dullards missed the memo, National Parks collect fees, so that has stopped.   Tourism or lack there of also affects small business owners in the area....no income to them.  Etc Etc Etc.   

 

How much would the Fed. gov't save if they quit chasing Dreamers?.   That includes putting them in ICE jails etc, trials, providing healthcare to those individuals and feeding / housing them as the cases work through the courts. 

 

Supposedly the Republicans are business leaders....if they don't see this entire GOP caused shutdown as burning cash - they are lying or stupid.    


Well.....af....in another post I tried to point out the difference between being stupid and being bereft of ethics.  To a rational person, it might seem the consequences are much the same.  IF, however, collateral damage is acceptable to advance a political agenda and the cost to the cynic exploiting the victims happens to be nil, then why worry about a few bucks here and there?  It won't come out of their pocket anyway and it get's them where they want to be.

 

I humbly suggest to you that viewpoint is prevalent in partisan politics on both sides, but pronounced in the Republican Party since the RRRR coup.

 

Sooner or later even the die-hard WWE patron should tumble to how their pocket is being picked and they are being abused in this political process.......or maybe not.  Now that's scary. 

 

The number hanging onto the non-existent coat-tail of the non-existent new suit 'the donald' doesn't have hasn't budged much from the 30-40% at the beginning of this charade.

 

The abominable practice of inserting irrelevant side issues in a main bill seems to be an accepted practice.  It shouldn't be.  Could be cutting a piece from the pork pie or it might be a poison pill to keep anybody else from getting it.  No matter.  It relegates everything to the so-called 'deal' in order to get anything done.  The 'con' benefits from that, not the mark.

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The former Republican Party chief blamed President Trump for sinking a potential deal, saying Trump "wound up negotiating against himself by taking a potential agreement off the table."

 

Will members of the Trump Cult blame their leader or hold him accountable? The answer's obvious so I'm LOL!

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The statement:  "Despite the rhetorical effort to paste Democrats with 'Schumer's Shutdown' and to redefine what constitutes majority control of the Senate ('60'? Really?), the fact remains that this shutdown rests at the feet of the GOP and it appears a majority of Americans agree," Steele told Politico.

 

It is interesting:   Many National monuments and parks are open but unstaffed.    That is called buring cash.   In case some dullards missed the memo, National Parks collect fees, so that has stopped.   Tourism or lack there of also affects small business owners in the area....no income to them.  Etc Etc Etc.   

 

How much would the Fed. gov't save if they quit chasing Dreamers?.   That includes putting them in ICE jails etc, trials, providing healthcare to those individuals and feeding / housing them as the cases work through the courts. 

 

Supposedly the Republicans are business leaders....if they don't see this entire GOP caused shutdown as burning cash - they are lying or stupid.    

PRO-LIFE is Affordable Healthcare for ALL .
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@rk9152 wrote:

@NerdyMom wrote:

If 70% of Americans want DACA fixed, why does the GOP find this to be such a sticking point?   


It isn't. In fact, the President extended the time to work it out. However, it is not a budgetary thing, The Dems threw it in to create a shutdown as a partisan weapon.


It's not a weapon.  It's leverage by the minority party.   The Republicans have not proven trustworthy or even effective in passing legislation.   So there's no reason to trust that they will get anything done on DACA between now and March.   

 

Both sides have done it.   They are "policy riders."  

 

In 2014, John Boehner said, "Understand all these provisions in the bill were worked out in a bi-partisan, bi-cameral fashion or they wouldn't be in the bill."

 

http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/10/politics/policy-riders-spending-bill/index.html

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NerdyMom:  If 70% of Americans want DACA fixed, why does the GOP find this to be such a sticking point?   

 

Because they're scared to death of their rabid base that happens to hate immingrants.


You are transferring your hatred to others. It can easily be dealt with once this game the Dems are playing over the budget is resolved and they get to the immigration discussions.

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@NerdyMom wrote:

If 70% of Americans want DACA fixed, why does the GOP find this to be such a sticking point?   


It isn't. In fact, the President extended the time to work it out. However, it is not a budgetary thing, The Dems threw it in to create a shutdown as a partisan weapon.

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This is a former Republican chairman that says that the shutdown is the GOP's fault, NOT a Democrat. (I wanted to make sure our trump supporters noticed that)


Man learns from history that man learns nothing from history.
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