FBI investigating 1,000 white supremacist, domestic terrorism cases

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  Donald supporters declare laissez-faire position.    They have been slow-walking all the ISIS propaganda that has been published via Russians that assisted Donald in his election.    

 

    Meanwhile, many people are finally starting to see the light.   A recent poll reported that 57% of Independents believe that Donald is unqualified.    

 

   I expect more slow-walking by Republicans into  the Russian financed intrusions / propagands that influenced the election.


Two points of clarification please:

1) What ISIS propaganda assisted President Trump;

2) I believe the serious investigations have pretty much moved away from the Congressional photo-ops and into the hands of Mueller - no?.

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  Donald supporters declare laissez-faire position.    They have been slow-walking all the ISIS propaganda that has been published via Russians that assisted Donald in his election.    

 

    Meanwhile, many people are finally starting to see the light.   A recent poll reported that 57% of Independents believe that Donald is unqualified.    

 

   I expect more slow-walking by Republicans into  the Russian financed intrusions / propagands that influenced the election.

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If they find that the a given supremacist incited violence, damaged property, harmed people, et cetera, yes, of course, charge that one. If they find that a given supremacist holds grossly unpopular beliefs, and is a turd in the day to day, but broke no laws, well, dratdarnedfudge, but welcome to America, set that one free.  I agree.  But what about conspiracy to incite violence, damage property, harm people, et cetera?

 

It is supposed to be OK to be an idiot in America. We have that right. And we must also give that right to those citizens we find horrendously objectionable.  And don't we witness that here each day?

 

Democracy is ugly, noisy, unfair sometimes, and loud. It doesn't have to be bitter and it doesn't have to be violent.  Again, I agree.

 

An aside: decades ago, while working in TV, I formed a local non-profit to tackle the cable industry's monopoly. Rub being that we forced them to open up free cable channels for citizen programming.  Some of that programming was utterly offensive to me. But the producers had the right to the cable time, so as long as they didn't break laws, I helped them gain access to the system. I would have handed Hitler a microphone in hopes that by doing so everyone within earshot could hear what a devil he was.  Who knows?  One was handed to trump and look what happened?


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If they find that the a given supremacist incited violence, damaged property, harmed people, et cetera, yes, of course, charge that one. If they find that a given supremacist holds grossly unpopular beliefs, and is a turd in the day to day, but broke no laws, well, dratdarnedfudge, but welcome to America, set that one free.

 

It is supposed to be OK to be an idiot in America. We have that right. And we must also give that right to those citizens we find horrendously objectionable.

 

Democracy is ugly, noisy, unfair sometimes, and loud. It doesn't have to be bitter and it doesn't have to be violent.

 

An aside: decades ago, while working in TV, I formed a local non-profit to tackle the cable industry's monopoly. Rub being that we forced them to open up free cable channels for citizen programming.  Some of that programming was utterly offensive to me. But the producers had the right to the cable time, so as long as they didn't break laws, I helped them gain access to the system. I would have handed Hitler a microphone in hopes that by doing so everyone within earshot could hear what a devil he was.

 

 

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Good. (referencing the investigation)  Agreed.  BUT, should there be something to charge them with?

 

On the q re Congress ... dunno.  Any guesses?

 

 


 


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Good. (referencing the investigation)

 

On the q re Congress ... dunno. 

 

 

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FBI investigating 1,000 white supremacist, domestic terrorism cases

 

The FBI is conducting about 1,000 investigations of suspected white supremacists or other types of domestic terrorists who might be planning violence, top federal officials told Senate lawmakers Wednesday.

 

Christopher A. Wray, in his first congressional testimony as FBI director, confirmed that his office has about 1,000 inquiries that people generally categorize as “domestic terrorism’’ — a catchall term often used to describe those motivated to commit violence in furtherance of racist causes.

 

Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), chairman of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, prompted Wray to confirm the number. FBI officials have previously said they had about 1,000 ongoing investigations in the United States of suspects who may be inspired by the Islamic State terrorist group to commit violence.

 

Wednesday’s hearing was the first public indication that the FBI is dealing with a similar number of domestic terrorism cases.

 

“We’re very busy,’’ Wray said. Asked by Johnson if there are any differences in how the FBI handles white supremacist terrorism cases vs. Islamic State terrorism cases, he said there are not, except for the criminal laws that may be applied.

 

Federal law makes it a crime to provide material support to a foreign terrorist group. There is no corresponding law regarding support for a violent white supremacist group.

 

“In most ways they’re similar, probably the biggest difference is there’s not a domestic terrorism offense as such,’’ Wray told the committee. He added that investigations of foreign-inspired suspects also may use foreign intelligence court orders to gather intelligence — a tool that is not available in an investigation of a white supremacist group.

 

The debate about the lack of such a law heated up after a suspected white supremacist drove his car into a crowd of protesters in Charlottesville this summer, killing a woman. He is awaiting trial in state court on murder charges.

 

Under questioning from lawmakers, Wray did not take a position on whether a law should be passed to make it easier to charge domestic terrorism cases.

 

He said he is concerned that would-be terrorists will try to use drones to conduct attacks in the United States, as they have overseas. And he said the battlefield defeats of the Islamic State group in Iraq and Syria mean that some suspects who would otherwise have tried to travel to those countries to join the group have decided to “stay put’’ for the time being in their own countries.

 

more at:  FBI investigating 1,000 white supremacist, domestic terrorism cases

 

Think Congress will step up to address this matter, or ignore their responsibility?


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