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@afisher wrote:

  Ah yes the ignoble donald supporters seem not to know the function of the FBI and oh wait, it even is clearly defined.    What Barr asserted were inflammatory words that the RW could and did use to fear-monger the weak minded followers of donald.

 

   

The FBI has a range of legal authorities that enable it to investigate federal crimes and threats to national security, as well as to gather intelligence and assist other law enforcement agencies.

Federal law gives the FBI authority to investigate all federal crime not assigned exclusively to another federal agency (28, Section 533 of the U.S. Code). Title 28, U.S. Code, Section 533, authorizes the attorney general to appoint officials to detect and prosecute crimes against the United States. Title 18, U.S. Code, Section 3052, specifically authorizes special agents and officials of the FBI to make arrests, carry firearms, and serve warrants. Title 18, U.S. Code, Section 3107, empowers special agents and officials to make seizures under warrant for violation of federal statutes. The FBI’s authority to investigate specific criminal violations is conferred by numerous other congressional statutes—such as the Congressional Assassination, Kidnapping, and Assault Act (Title 18, U.S. Code, Section 351). The FBI has special investigative jurisdiction to investigate violations of state law in limited circumstances, specifically felony killings of state law enforcement officers (28 U.S.C. § 540), violent crimes against interstate travelers (28 U.S.C. § 540A0), and serial killers (28 U.S.C. §540B). A request by an appropriate state official is required before the FBI has authority to investigate these matters. In addition, Title 28, Code of Federal Regulations, Section 0.85, outlines the investigative and other responsibilities of the FBI, including the collection of fingerprint cards and identification records; the training of state and local law enforcement officials at the FBI National Academy; and the operation of the National Crime Information Center and the FBI Laboratory.

The FBI has authority to investigate threats to national security pursuant to presidential executive orders, attorney general authorities, and various statutory sources. Title II of the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004, Public Law 108-458, 118 Stat. 3638, outlines FBI intelligence authorities, as does Executive Order 12333; 50 U.S.C. 401 et seq.; 50 U.S.C. 1801 et seq.

This combination of authorities gives the FBI the unique ability to address national security and criminal threats that are increasingly intertwined and to shift between the use of intelligence tools such as surveillance or recruiting sources and law enforcement tools of arrest and prosecution. Unlike many domestic intelligence agencies around the world, the FBI can shift seamlessly between intelligence collection and action. This allows the FBI to continue gathering intelligence on a subject to learn more about his or her social and financial network, and shift gears quickly to arrest him or her if harm to an innocent person appears imminent. The threat of prosecution, in turn, can be used to encourage cooperation to support further intelligence gathering.


A very lengthy "oh wait" that states the rights and responsibilities of the FBI but ignores the use of a partisan bought and paid for piece of opposition research as the basis to "spy" inside the opposition campaign.

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@Panjandrum wrote:

ChasKy53:   So the truth about trump is "funny"?  The lies and distortions about our institutions, Hillary, Obama and people believing them while ignoring the disgusting things trump does is what is "funny", yet sad.

 

 

 

 

"Spying" is a convenient label to put on what happened, because it shifts blame from Trump to the FBI. Legal surveillance ordered and authorized by several judges makes it sound like Trump might have been involved in illegal, treasonous activites, and that just won't do. They want to skip the fact that getting the ok by our courts is a tightly controlled, rigorous process meant to weed out the possibility of our intelligence people going rogue and spying. The sad truth is that conservatives will believe whatever makes them feel good about their whacky reasoning.


I don't know about "shifting blame". Certainly the partisan corruption of the Obama DoJ was not the responsibility of President Trump so there is nothing to shift there.

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@Olderscout66 wrote:

The ToadPOTUS Toady AG is croaking about SPYING by the FBI.

This is an insult to the entire FBI - they do NOT "spy", they INVESTIGATE, and in the case of Donny Bonespurs, enough came out in the Mueller Investigation to PROVE donny's campaign officials had EXTENSIVE contacts with representatives of a hostile foreign power.

 

But the GOPers believe if a GOPer is involved, then you must be able to convict them before you investigate them.

 

NonGOPers are presumed by GOPers to be guilty, so to save the money investigating, they just have Fox and Breightbart tell outrageous lies about those folks.

 

Everything (EXCEPT the pee tape) that came up in the Steele Dossier has been proven to be TRUE. It was commissioned by REPUBLICANS who wanted dirt on lil donny, and at least Steele was a spy for "our" side.

 

The Trump Campaign conspired with Russian intelligence agents to dig dirt on Hillary AND spread lies on the Internet. To expose this activity is not "spying on Trump". It is EXPOSING Trump as a SPY for Putin.


I heard no one croaking and as to they do NOT "spy", they INVESTIGATE that is true about "they" in a the broad sense. In fact, "they" did not have a "plan B" in case Trump won - but Strzuk did.

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The left is about to be really disappointed again...  

 

The IG Horiwitz report will be finished soon and then the Criminal Referrals from the House Committee will be investigated by the DOJ.  

 

I predict TDS inflicted dimms heads’ exploding at a very fast pace.

 

Oh well, back to Vacation.  Just  stopped for the night in Georgia.

Looks like “A rainey night in Georgia” !  Stay safe everybody...

 

 

 

 

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  Ah yes the ignoble donald supporters seem not to know the function of the FBI and oh wait, it even is clearly defined.    What Barr asserted were inflammatory words that the RW could and did use to fear-monger the weak minded followers of donald.

 

   

The FBI has a range of legal authorities that enable it to investigate federal crimes and threats to national security, as well as to gather intelligence and assist other law enforcement agencies.

Federal law gives the FBI authority to investigate all federal crime not assigned exclusively to another federal agency (28, Section 533 of the U.S. Code). Title 28, U.S. Code, Section 533, authorizes the attorney general to appoint officials to detect and prosecute crimes against the United States. Title 18, U.S. Code, Section 3052, specifically authorizes special agents and officials of the FBI to make arrests, carry firearms, and serve warrants. Title 18, U.S. Code, Section 3107, empowers special agents and officials to make seizures under warrant for violation of federal statutes. The FBI’s authority to investigate specific criminal violations is conferred by numerous other congressional statutes—such as the Congressional Assassination, Kidnapping, and Assault Act (Title 18, U.S. Code, Section 351). The FBI has special investigative jurisdiction to investigate violations of state law in limited circumstances, specifically felony killings of state law enforcement officers (28 U.S.C. § 540), violent crimes against interstate travelers (28 U.S.C. § 540A0), and serial killers (28 U.S.C. §540B). A request by an appropriate state official is required before the FBI has authority to investigate these matters. In addition, Title 28, Code of Federal Regulations, Section 0.85, outlines the investigative and other responsibilities of the FBI, including the collection of fingerprint cards and identification records; the training of state and local law enforcement officials at the FBI National Academy; and the operation of the National Crime Information Center and the FBI Laboratory.

The FBI has authority to investigate threats to national security pursuant to presidential executive orders, attorney general authorities, and various statutory sources. Title II of the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004, Public Law 108-458, 118 Stat. 3638, outlines FBI intelligence authorities, as does Executive Order 12333; 50 U.S.C. 401 et seq.; 50 U.S.C. 1801 et seq.

This combination of authorities gives the FBI the unique ability to address national security and criminal threats that are increasingly intertwined and to shift between the use of intelligence tools such as surveillance or recruiting sources and law enforcement tools of arrest and prosecution. Unlike many domestic intelligence agencies around the world, the FBI can shift seamlessly between intelligence collection and action. This allows the FBI to continue gathering intelligence on a subject to learn more about his or her social and financial network, and shift gears quickly to arrest him or her if harm to an innocent person appears imminent. The threat of prosecution, in turn, can be used to encourage cooperation to support further intelligence gathering.

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fish says "I smell a lefty set up. A scam. A rouse. A fail."

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Now Lifelong Republican Robert Mueller is a lefty ? Try to use facts fish. I know you're used to lies and cover up falsehoods from the White House , but can we at least try to speak facts on our site ?

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The truth is... investigations go where the evidence is. Never in their worst dream did the dems ever think this could come back to haunt them. Surprise-surprise.

I smell a lefty set up. A scam. A rouse. A fail.

I understand they're installing adult diaper dispensers in the DNC.

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ChasKy53:   So the truth about trump is "funny"?  The lies and distortions about our institutions, Hillary, Obama and people believing them while ignoring the disgusting things trump does is what is "funny", yet sad.

 

 

 

 

"Spying" is a convenient label to put on what happened, because it shifts blame from Trump to the FBI. Legal surveillance ordered and authorized by several judges makes it sound like Trump might have been involved in illegal, treasonous activites, and that just won't do. They want to skip the fact that getting the ok by our courts is a tightly controlled, rigorous process meant to weed out the possibility of our intelligence people going rogue and spying. The sad truth is that conservatives will believe whatever makes them feel good about their whacky reasoning.

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@jimc91 wrote:

TOO FUNNY!!

 

 


So the truth about trump is "funny"?  The lies and distortions about our institutions, Hillary, Obama and people believing them while ignoring the disgusting things trump does is what is "funny", yet sad.


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I recall shortly after Trump became President he asserted that Obama had spied on him, once again with NO proof what so ever.
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