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@MaVolta wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@alotofgrey wrote:

Listening to our far Right is like listening to Communists and Socialists. Sounds good, just don’t work and cannot be made to work. How do I know that.

 

There are over a hundred countries. Pick one where it worked. Heck, pick one from the last 100 years.

 

Limited Government Conservative on the Right.


O.K. I'll pick the USofA.

 

Based on the Constitution and based on the free market partnered with the government to insure it's freedom has worked a long, long time. It has even survived leftist obsessions with "From each according to his means; to each according to his needs". These Marxist dreams are hidden in the word "free". In reality "free" does not exist - it is all wealth redistribution.


Again??? 


Meaning what - "free" does exist??

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@alferdpacker wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@alotofgrey wrote:

Listening to our far Right is like listening to Communists and Socialists. Sounds good, just don’t work and cannot be made to work. How do I know that.

 

There are over a hundred countries. Pick one where it worked. Heck, pick one from the last 100 years.

 

Limited Government Conservative on the Right.


O.K. I'll pick the USofA.

 

Based on the Constitution and based on the free market partnered with the government to insure it's freedom has worked a long, long time. It has even survived leftist obsessions with "From each according to his means; to each according to his needs". These Marxist dreams are hidden in the word "free". In reality "free" does not exist - it is all wealth redistribution.


Yep -all that stuff - that if it weren't for Marxist dreams - we wouldn't have - freedom of the press, freedom of speech, freedom of religion freedom to keep and bear arms, freedom to remain silent - etc etc...   snark snark giggle - they actually do predate Marx and Engels as everyone has always known - it's probable that Marx and Engels cribbed a little from the Constitution....

Can  you quote the cribbing of Marx and Engels on those topics??

So that means that all of Marx' and Engels' proved unworkable socio-political constructs mean absolutely nothing in today's real world?  Sure enough....

Agreed. While nice sounding, it was impractical.

So - all that hair on fire "marxism stuff" might well be considered by some to be a variant of the same kind of crackpot paranoia as alcoholic and morphine addict Joe McCarthy, Robert Welch, the John Birch Society and Barry Goldwater - nutbag stuff that's still festering in whackadoodle RWNJ ghettos of goofy today?

Do tell...

What do they have to do with the impracticality of Marxism? And, you forgot that famous Bircher - Robert Wolffe.


 

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Only independent people can choose dependency.

Bootstraps are underrated. Government assistance is overrated.

Dependence is dependent on wealth. The greater the wealth, the greater the dependence.


It is becoming painfully (!!!) apparent that if the Trump family were not rich to start out, they would all be living in subsidized housing huffing paint.  Now THAT is dependency.  None of them has the sense God gave a squirrel 


And if Lemontop had not cheated his workers, defrauded his investors and lied constantly to the public, he'd not have a nail to screatch is orange butt with nor a board to pound it in.

 

The Reagan Tax code has made "bootstrapping" a thing of the past for 99% of Americans. The advantage of already being in the upper-middle to very top is so overwhelming, only those who can come up with a real "million-dollar idea" can shift to a higher income level. Being an excellent worker does diddly because the average worker who shares the ideology of the one giving the promotions will get the better job. Those with Obama bumperstickers need not apply.

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@Richva wrote:

@Fishslayer777 wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25HN1kZtRIw


Ah, NOW I understand how you got that quote. I was suspicious because of the fast cutting so I looked up the entire quote and BINGO!!!  it as a Fake News story the conservatives were pushing way back when. They are attempting to make it look like he was talking about the back of the bus, because they love that racial stuff, but that was just the alternative fact of the day.  The complete QUOTE is below.  I hope I did not make you feel silly over this. It was not my intent. 

 

Finally we got this car up on level ground. And, yes, it's a little beat up. It needs to go to the body shop. It's got some dents; it needs a tune-up. But it's pointing in the right direction. And now we've got the Republicans tapping us on the shoulder, saying, we want the keys back.

You can't have the keys back. You don't know how to drive. You can ride with us if you want, but you got to sit in the backseat. We're going to put middle-class America in the front seat. We're looking out for them.


Ah yes - selective editing and selective quoting.

 

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@alotofgrey wrote:

@Fishslayer777 wrote:
Only independent people can choose dependency.

Bootstraps are underrated. Government assistance is overrated.

Dependence is dependent on wealth. The greater the wealth, the greater the dependence.


It is becoming painfully (!!!) apparent that if the Trump family were not rich to start out, they would all be living in subsidized housing huffing paint.  Now THAT is dependency.  None of them has the sense God gave a squirrel 

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@Fishslayer777 wrote:
Only independent people can choose dependency.

Bootstraps are underrated. Government assistance is overrated.

Dependence is dependent on wealth. The greater the wealth, the greater the dependence.

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@Fishslayer777 wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25HN1kZtRIw


Ah, NOW I understand how you got that quote. I was suspicious because of the fast cutting so I looked up the entire quote and BINGO!!!  it as a Fake News story the conservatives were pushing way back when. They are attempting to make it look like he was talking about the back of the bus, because they love that racial stuff, but that was just the alternative fact of the day.  The complete QUOTE is below.  I hope I did not make you feel silly over this. It was not my intent. 

 

Finally we got this car up on level ground. And, yes, it's a little beat up. It needs to go to the body shop. It's got some dents; it needs a tune-up. But it's pointing in the right direction. And now we've got the Republicans tapping us on the shoulder, saying, we want the keys back.

You can't have the keys back. You don't know how to drive. You can ride with us if you want, but you got to sit in the backseat. We're going to put middle-class America in the front seat. We're looking out for them.

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Like most everything else we get from the RW, wealth REdistribution is just a word the GOPerLords told the base to use when talking about taxes.

 

There is NO RE distribution - the only way the system works is for the proceeds from all our endeavors be divided among those responsible for the production, and there are FOUR irreplaceble elements - Labor, Capital, Organization and INFRASTRUCTURE. The DISTRIBUTION from the get-go must reimburse ALL the players for their contribution. Now it's true Republicans have scamed the Country for 30 years by redistributing the money that should've gone to Labor and Infrastructure (and Capital) and given it all to "Organization" aka senior management.

 

Now when the infrastructure is falling apart and the labor is waking up to the fact their bosses did NOT get 20 times better at their jobs while said worker is only 90% as productive as he was back in 1985, the Wingers have been given orders to try and get everyone to THINK the money was always the exclusive property of MANAGEMENT and getting it back to the right people in the right amounts is a Commie Plot of a Slippery Slope that will Destroy Freedom and Take Your Guns. It's not, it's just fairness being re-introduced to the process of wealth DISTRIBUTION.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25HN1kZtRIw


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If I quote Obama who said ''republicans get to the back of the bus"  in an attempt to illustrate the divide in politics .... your saying "my" racial tone is unChristian? Are you kidding? Really? So using that logic... the news media who quoted Obama too, are equally unChristian? with a questionable racial tone? That's absurd. 

 

I find the quote by our former president divisional and unChristian and isn't that part of what divides us? by turning it around accusing me of racial unChristian tones, when I quoted the president? That sir... is what is refered to as spin. 

 

Classic


Just because I LOVE pointing out the "alternative facts" presented by our conservative posters....Obama never said those words.

 

I have determined that English is the second language for many of our conservative posters as they lack an understanding of the word "Quote" (to exactly repeat the words of another ) .

 

It would be fascinating to know what Obama could have said or did  which was "un Christian".  Looks like the makings of a great "Fake News" story all over again..

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