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Listening to our far Right is like listening to Communists and Socialists. Sounds good, just don’t work and cannot be made to work. How do I know that.

 

There are over a hundred countries. Pick one where it worked. Heck, pick one from the last 100 years.

 

Limited Government Conservative on the Right.


O.K. I'll pick the USofA.

 

Based on the Constitution and based on the free market partnered with the government to insure it's freedom has worked a long, long time. It has even survived leftist obsessions with "From each according to his means; to each according to his needs". These Marxist dreams are hidden in the word "free". In reality "free" does not exist - it is all wealth redistribution.


Again??? 

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@rk9152 wrote:

@alotofgrey wrote:

Listening to our far Right is like listening to Communists and Socialists. Sounds good, just don’t work and cannot be made to work. How do I know that.

 

There are over a hundred countries. Pick one where it worked. Heck, pick one from the last 100 years.

 

Limited Government Conservative on the Right.


O.K. I'll pick the USofA.

 

Based on the Constitution and based on the free market partnered with the government to insure it's freedom has worked a long, long time. It has even survived leftist obsessions with "From each according to his means; to each according to his needs". These Marxist dreams are hidden in the word "free". In reality "free" does not exist - it is all wealth redistribution.


Yep -all that stuff - that if it weren't for Marxist dreams - we wouldn't have - freedom of the press, freedom of speech, freedom of religion freedom to keep and bear arms, freedom to remain silent - etc etc...   snark snark giggle - they actually do predate Marx and Engels as everyone has always known - it's probable that Marx and Engels cribbed a little from the Constitution....

So that means that all of Marx' and Engels' proved unworkable socio-political constructs mean absolutely nothing in today's real world?  Sure enough....

So - all that hair on fire "marxism stuff" might well be considered by some to be a variant of the same kind of crackpot paranoia as alcoholic and morphine addict Joe McCarthy, Robert Welch, the John Birch Society and Barry Goldwater - nutbag stuff that's still festering in whackadoodle RWNJ ghettos of goofy today?

Do tell...

He is useless on top of the ground - he should be under it - inspiring the cabbages... Mark Twain 1894
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Only independent people can choose dependency.

Bootstraps are underrated. Government assistance is overrated.

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@alotofgrey wrote:

Listening to our far Right is like listening to Communists and Socialists. Sounds good, just don’t work and cannot be made to work. How do I know that.

 

There are over a hundred countries. Pick one where it worked. Heck, pick one from the last 100 years.

 

Limited Government Conservative on the Right.


O.K. I'll pick the USofA.

 

Based on the Constitution and based on the free market partnered with the government to insure it's freedom has worked a long, long time. It has even survived leftist obsessions with "From each according to his means; to each according to his needs". These Marxist dreams are hidden in the word "free". In reality "free" does not exist - it is all wealth redistribution.

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Rugged individualism for the poor..oyu know , boot straps and all. SOcialism for the rich...bailouts ,mine cleanups, printingmoney and givingit to the banks so they can charge the citizen interest. But if i say print that money and send it to the citizens, why, thats socialism. that, in a nutshell, is the difference between the right and left.
So it begins.
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Here on AARP a registered democrat, who votes independently, who supports his country the constitution and it's laws, who wishes for increased opportunity and accountability, who's from the heartland is called what?

Here let me help.... a right wing nut job.

If you see it this way and that's your opinion then you let me help you see , this is what most of middle America is, and why middle America voted for Trump. This is the middle ground. This is what being a centrist looks like. Hard to believe isn't it.

Like it or not, the demographics and cultural diversity of the middle, looks nothing like what the liberal left projects. We do not conform to any ideology and are independent thinkers. Party designation means nothing. We are mostly Christian and value the teachings of our faith. We will always place God and country in that order.

We mostly vote republican now-a-days for good reason, and it isn't party politics. I know it's hard for the liberal left to comprehend that, and what the "middle" actually is, because it's everything you're opposed to. I get it. We're deplorable.

So what are the politics of the middle? does the liberal left even know? I don't think they do, 'cause if they did ... then Hillary wouldn't have been the democratic presidential candidate.


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If I quote Obama who said ''republicans get to the back of the bus"  in an attempt to illustrate the divide in politics .... your saying "my" racial tone is unChristian? Are you kidding? Really? So using that logic... the news media who quoted Obama too, are equally unChristian? with a questionable racial tone? That's absurd. 

 

I find the quote by our former president divisional and unChristian and isn't that part of what divides us? by turning it around accusing me of racial unChristian tones, when I quoted the president? That sir... is what is refered to as spin. 

 

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In this nation, in which separation of church and state is a Constitutional Mandate - an American tradition - the origin of which goes back 373 years - to 1644 - coming from the Christian Minister Roger Williams - the man who was the founder of the nation's first Baptist congregation - and the source of the government mandate of separation of church and state - I view the insistence upon injecting any of a number of religious beliefs into this constitutionally defined as secular government  - to be a decidedly unpatriotic act.

 

Nowhere in the Constitution is adherence to any religious belief system defined as being any kind of act of patriotism - nor is it anywhere cited in the Constitution as an aspect of properly Constitutional Citizenship.

 

Yes - Xtian prejudicial bigotry is one of the noticeably less than admirable things currently dividing the nation...

He is useless on top of the ground - he should be under it - inspiring the cabbages... Mark Twain 1894
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@mandm84

 

If I quote Obama who said ''republicans get to the back of the bus"  in an attempt to illustrate the divide in politics .... your saying "my" racial tone is unChristian? Are you kidding? Really? So using that logic... the news media who quoted Obama too, are equally unChristian? with a questionable racial tone? That's absurd. 

 

I find the quote by our former president divisional and unChristian and isn't that part of what divides us? by turning it around accusing me of racial unChristian tones, when I quoted the president? That sir... is what is refered to as spin. 

 

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Listening to our far Right is like listening to Communists and Socialists. Sounds good, just don’t work and cannot be made to work. How do I know that.

 

There are over a hundred countries. Pick one where it worked. Heck, pick one from the last 100 years.

 

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@mandm84 - I agree with you. In today's politics, there is little or no middle ground. Centrist or moderate views generally draw criticism on both sides. There is no particular ideology for being a centrist or moderate, but I thought that the list provided by @Richva was a very good one, and it fits my views fairly well. For whatever reason, compromise is seen as being weak.

 

Across the country, voters indicate that they are frustrated with the inability of Congress to get anything done, and yet, they will insist that their reps dig in their heels and tow the party line. It seems more so on the right than the left, with threats of being "primaried" if one doesn't vote accordingly. Although lately, there have been some rumblings from the more liberal left, for D's to also become party purists. Presidents Clinton and Obama were both criticized by the more liberal D's as being too centrist.

 

I would make the case that unless the two sides start to work out their differences, until they can work for finding common ground, there can be no progress, just the endless stalemate we keep seeing in Congress. 

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