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@NOTHAPPENINGwrote:


I inadvertently mentioned "question" when I should have said "comment" but my posting has no bearing on what Trump replied to and the poster is dead wrong when he says or implies that Trump said that "all immigrants are animals".


It is very hard for a liberal these days.

 

Trump is so inarticulate that he and his surrogates, more times than not, have to "explain what he meant". If we have a Commander in Chief that can't speak straight, he can say anything and then later say he meant it to be something else.

 

This use of ANIMAL is a prime example of that.

 

But now it is even worse. Those that back Trump are also using the same process. For example, a poster says that the President was asked a question about MS-13 and that the President was merely responding to the question. Just as the President does, when the poster discovered there was NO QUESTION; the poster backtracked and stated that they inadvertently called it a question rather than a comment. A world of difference, my friend.

 

It has gotten to the point that one can't believe any initial utterance by Trump or his surrogates because they will most likely have to be backtracked, retracted, explained or re-worded.

 

Great way to confuse the electorate........ but heed my words.......... everyone is listening closer now.

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@TxGrandpa2wrote:

@NOTHAPPENINGwrote:


Liberals will read the text and watch the video and still say Trump hates all immigrants. You can't fix stupid!


That is basically what the poster is attempting to say.  He was in a discussion with the Sheriff who was saying she had to comply with both California law and Federal Law, but she was caught in-between in a Catch 22 position.

 

The poster was attempting to 'play' on whether a question was asked.


I inadvertently mentioned "question" when I should have said "comment" but my posting has no bearing on what Trump replied to and the poster is dead wrong when he says or implies that Trump said that "all immigrants are animals". Never happened except in the liberal mind.

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@NOTHAPPENINGwrote:


Liberals will read the text and watch the video and still say Trump hates all immigrants. You can't fix stupid!


That is basically what the poster is attempting to say.  He was in a discussion with the Sheriff who was saying she had to comply with both California law and Federal Law, but she was caught in-between in a Catch 22 position.

 

The poster was attempting to 'play' on whether a question was asked.

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@TxGrandpa2wrote:

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ONLY ONE SENTENCE even mentioned MS-13.

 

I had said there was NO QUESTION posed to Trump by the Sheriff


You're attempting use the excuse that there was no question posed......No question was needed as the discussion included comments about MS-13.  Here is the context:

 

 

Mims: "Thank you. There could be an MS-13 gang member I know about — if they don't reach a certain threshold, I cannot tell ICE about it."

 

Trump: "We have people coming into the country, or trying to come in — and we're stopping a lot of them — but we're taking people out of the country. You wouldn't believe how bad these people are. These aren't people. These are animals. And we're taking them out of the country at a level and at a rate that's never happened before. And because of the weak laws, they come in fast, we get them, we release them, we get them again, we bring them out. It's crazy.


Liberals will read the text and watch the video and still say Trump hates all immigrants. You can't fix stupid!

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@nctarheelwrote:


ONLY ONE SENTENCE even mentioned MS-13.

 

I had said there was NO QUESTION posed to Trump by the Sheriff


You're attempting use the excuse that there was no question posed......No question was needed as the discussion included comments about MS-13.  Here is the context:

 

 

Mims: "Thank you. There could be an MS-13 gang member I know about — if they don't reach a certain threshold, I cannot tell ICE about it."

 

Trump: "We have people coming into the country, or trying to come in — and we're stopping a lot of them — but we're taking people out of the country. You wouldn't believe how bad these people are. These aren't people. These are animals. And we're taking them out of the country at a level and at a rate that's never happened before. And because of the weak laws, they come in fast, we get them, we release them, we get them again, we bring them out. It's crazy.

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@nctarheelwrote:

@NOTHAPPENINGwrote:

He was responding to a question by a Sheriff who mentioned MS13. Do liberals require that he repeat the question? He wasn't talking about immigrants "in general" as the left pretends.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tmT7-dhOWs


Maybe you need to listen to the youtube video before you make your comments. There was no question about MS-13 by the Sheriff.

 

Trump went on with his rant and called all undocumented aliens ANIMALS just as the REAL NEWS is reporting. When a President speaks, those listening shouldn't have to read his mind and interpret what he's talking about.

 

You have obviously done that here and made the assumption he was on the subject of MS-13. Heck, even the Sheriff's dialogue wasn't about MS-13, except for one sentence.

 

Use the REAL Transcript, not one made up by Fox News and all the rest of Trump's Base.


I did listen to the video and about 2/3 into the video she mentions MS13 and Trump comments back referred to that particular scum. If liberals like that scum and want them in this country, so be it but make sure you escort them to YOUR neighborhood.

 

Stop trying (unsuccessfully) to distort what he said.

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No cigar pardner.  The topic did turn to MS-13 and criminal illegals and he was referring them, not all immigrants as claimed.

 

The Sheriff was saying that even if she knew of MS-13 members in her area she couldn't mention them to federal agents since she was caught between the state and the feds.


I suggest you listen to the YouTube video. The topic made no turn. The topic was about undocumented immigrants and ONLY ONE SENTENCE even mentioned MS-13.

 

I don't know why you don't want to give me my cigar......... I had said there was NO QUESTION posed to Trump by the Sheriff as your fellow posters had commented and you backed me up on that, proving that I was right.

 

Maybe a cigarillo??????

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But, once again, thanks for having my back by proving there was NO QUESTION posed by the Sheriff as some FAKE NEWS  purveyors have alluded to.


No cigar pardner.  The topic did turn to MS-13 and criminal illegals and he was referring them, not all immigrants as claimed.

 

The Sheriff was saying that even if she knew of MS-13 members in her area she couldn't mention them to federal agents since she was caught between the state and the feds.

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@TxGrandpa2wrote:

Here is what Trump said:

 

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2018/may/17/context-donald-trumps-comments-about-imm...

 

In Context: Donald Trump's comments about immigrants, ‘animals’

 

Towards the bottom of the page Trump's comment in a discussion with  Margaret Mims, Fresno County Sheriff.

 

Mims: "Thank you. There could be an MS-13 gang member I know about — if they don't reach a certain threshold, I cannot tell ICE about it."

Trump: "We have people coming into the country, or trying to come in — and we're stopping a lot of them — but we're taking people out of the country. You wouldn't believe how bad these people are. These aren't people. These are animals. And we're taking them out of the country at a level and at a rate that's never happened before. And because of the weak laws, they come in fast, we get them, we release them, we get them again, we bring them out. It's crazy.


Thanks, @TxGrandpa2, for agreeing with me versus the others on this thread that have manufactured the events of that day.

 

They said that Trump was responding to a question about MS-13 and that's why Trump DIDN'T need to mention MS-13 in his rant against immigrants.

 

As your transcript shows......... THERE WAS NO QUESTION POSED TO THE PRESIDENT ABOUT MS-13!!!!!

 

Now, if you only took your transcript a little further back; you would see that even the Sheriff was talking about undocumented immigrants in general except for that one sentence about MS-13.

 

That further clarifies that Trump was being his xenophobic self inciting the Trump Base by attributing the term ANIMALS to undocumented immigrants from south of the border.

 

Isn't it strange that undocumented immigrants from other countries aren't given that moniker. There has been some BAD DUDES from other countries here in the United States but that wouldn't fit Trump's RACIST AGENDA.

 

But, once again, thanks for having my back by proving there was NO QUESTION posed by the Sheriff as some FAKE NEWS  purveyors have alluded to.

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Here is what Trump said:

 

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2018/may/17/context-donald-trumps-comments-about-imm...

 

In Context: Donald Trump's comments about immigrants, ‘animals’

 

Towards the bottom of the page Trump's comment in a discussion with  Margaret Mims, Fresno County Sheriff.

 

Mims: "Thank you. There could be an MS-13 gang member I know about — if they don't reach a certain threshold, I cannot tell ICE about it."

Trump: "We have people coming into the country, or trying to come in — and we're stopping a lot of them — but we're taking people out of the country. You wouldn't believe how bad these people are. These aren't people. These are animals. And we're taking them out of the country at a level and at a rate that's never happened before. And because of the weak laws, they come in fast, we get them, we release them, we get them again, we bring them out. It's crazy.

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