- AARP Online Community
- :
- Politics & Society Forums
- :
- Politics, Current Events
- :
- Re: Explaining The Animal Frenzy
- AARP Online Community
- Ideas, Tips & Answers
- Caregiving
- Entertainment
- Health
- Home & Family
- Money
- Retirement
- Technology
- Travel
- Work & Jobs
- ITA Archive
- Health Forums
- Brain Health
- Conditions & Treatments
- Healthy Living
- Medicare & Insurance
- Retirement Forum
- Retirement
- Social Security
- Retirement Archive
- Money Forums
- Budget & Savings
- Invest, Diversify, Integrate Your Financial Life
- Scams & Fraud
- Travel Forums
- Destinations
- Solo Travel
- Tips
- Home & Family Forums
- Comunidad Hispana de AARP
- Dogs, Cats and Pets
- Friends & Family
- Introduce Yourself
- Housing
- Late Life Divorce
- Love, Sex & Dating
- Our Front Porch
- Random Thoughts and Conversations
- Singles Perspective Revisited
- The Girlfriend
- Veterans
- Home & Family Archive
- Politics & Society Forums
- Politics, Current Events
- Technology Forums
- Computer Questions & Tips
- About Our Community
- Rewards for Good
- AARP Rewards for Good archive
- Entertainment Forums
- Rock N' Roll
- TV Talk
- Let's Play Bingo!
- Leisure & Lifestyle
- Writing & Books
- Games
- Entertainment Archive
- Caregiving Forums
- Caregiving
- Grief & Loss
- Work & Jobs
- Work & Jobs
- AARP Help
- Benefits & Discounts
- Membership
- General Help
- AARP Rewards
- AARP Rewards
- AARP Rewards Tips
Explaining The Animal Frenzy
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Mark Topic as New
- Mark Topic as Read
- Float this Topic for Current User
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Printer Friendly Page
- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Email to a Friend
- Report Inappropriate Content
Re: Explaining The Animal Frenzy
@Centristsin2010wrote:
@rk9152wrote:
@sp362wrote:
@TxGrandpa2wrote:
@Centristsin2010wrote:
Those who immigrated need to be deported, Not if they immigrated legally.
Got news for you, anyone that immigrated legally and commits certain of crimes are subject to, and needs to be, deported. Even those who have become naturalized citizens are subject to deportation for certain reasons.
https://immigration.findlaw.com/citizenship/can-your-u-s-citizenship-be-revoked-.html
As far as your stating in your post that: “most informed people know immigrants have a far lower crime rate than non-immigrants,” perhaps you should do a little further research.
Centrist is correct. Studies have shown that immigrants commit less crimes than citizens. Anything published by the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) is not worth the paper it is printed on. They are partisan, biased and are classified as an extreme right HATE group.
Their presence here is a crime. LOL.....typical.
Yes, it is typical. The comment was about "immigrants" not MS-13. And also typical - cover the lack of understanding with a phony laugh.
The poster sounds as if he knows each and every MS-13 member personally and KNOWS they are all illegal immigrants. How does he know all of this? He's a Fox viewer and Limblah listener....they know everything about everyone....LMAO!!!
The poster does not have to know each and every MS-13 member to know the meaning of the term "illegal". And again, the childish reference to Fox and Limbaugh as well as another phony laugh.
Gave you a break, "rk". It's easy to whine about the "LMAO" and avoid the substance as you prefer.
This from someone unable to discern between "illegal" and MS-13. Talk about lack of substance - that defines it.
- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Email to a Friend
- Report Inappropriate Content
Re: Explaining The Animal Frenzy
@Olderscout66wrote:
@rk9152wrote:
@Richvawrote:Are you, like Trump, implying that all 11 million of these people are like this?
How insane and gullable.
There are not 11 million MS-13 members so your point is .... well .... pointless.
Der Truimper and the NRAGOP are using MS-13, most of whom are US Citizens, as representative of 11 million undocumented immigrants, most of whom are less likely to commit crimes than US citizens. To pretend otherwise in a futile attempt to disguise this latest racist, xenophobic dogwhistle to his base is...well...Republican.
Again the racism of the left is on display. An inability to see MS-13 hoodlums as other than "undocumented" Latinos is truly sad.
- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Email to a Friend
- Report Inappropriate Content
Re: Explaining The Animal Frenzy
@rk9152wrote:
@sp362wrote:
@TxGrandpa2wrote:
@Centristsin2010wrote:
Those who immigrated need to be deported, Not if they immigrated legally.
Got news for you, anyone that immigrated legally and commits certain of crimes are subject to, and needs to be, deported. Even those who have become naturalized citizens are subject to deportation for certain reasons.
https://immigration.findlaw.com/citizenship/can-your-u-s-citizenship-be-revoked-.html
As far as your stating in your post that: “most informed people know immigrants have a far lower crime rate than non-immigrants,” perhaps you should do a little further research.
Centrist is correct. Studies have shown that immigrants commit less crimes than citizens. Anything published by the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) is not worth the paper it is printed on. They are partisan, biased and are classified as an extreme right HATE group.
Their presence here is a crime. LOL.....typical. The poster sounds as if he knows each and every MS-13 member personally and KNOWS they are all illegal immigrants. How does he know all of this? He's a Fox viewer and Limblah listener....they know everything about everyone....LMAO!!!
Gave you a break, "rk". It's easy to whine about the "LMAO" and avoid the substance as you prefer.
"FAKE 45 #illegitimate" read a sign at the Woman's March in Washington DC, January 21, 2017.
- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Email to a Friend
- Report Inappropriate Content
Re: Explaining The Animal Frenzy
@sp362wrote:
@TxGrandpa2wrote:
@Centristsin2010wrote:
Those who immigrated need to be deported, Not if they immigrated legally.
Got news for you, anyone that immigrated legally and commits certain of crimes are subject to, and needs to be, deported. Even those who have become naturalized citizens are subject to deportation for certain reasons.
https://immigration.findlaw.com/citizenship/can-your-u-s-citizenship-be-revoked-.html
As far as your stating in your post that: “most informed people know immigrants have a far lower crime rate than non-immigrants,” perhaps you should do a little further research.
https://cis.org/Camarota/NonCitizens-Committed-Disproportionate-Share-Federal-Crimes-201116
Centrist is correct. Studies have shown that immigrants commit less crimes than citizens. Anything published by the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) is not worth the paper it is printed on. They are partisan, biased and are classified as an extreme right HATE group.
Their presence here is a crime. However, let us not forget that the topic is the "animals" of MS-13, not every illegal.
- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Email to a Friend
- Report Inappropriate Content
Re: Explaining The Animal Frenzy
@sp362wrote:The same thing I said to Texas Grandpa. Anything written by the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) is not worth the paper it is printed on. They are a biased, partisan organization that has made up and misreported facts. Come up with facts from another source and we can talk. CIS is just a bunch of partisan hate mongers who make up stastics to match their agenda.
Ok, are not your comments also partisan? Can you come up with facts and sources that you can show to be more accurate? Until you can and can prove that this source is a biased, partisan organization then your allegations has no basis and is also partisan.
But are you instead defending the MS-13 organization and saying it is not a criminal organization? Sounds like you are defending them.
- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Email to a Friend
- Report Inappropriate Content
Re: Explaining The Animal Frenzy
@jfpinlvnwrote:
@sp362wrote:Soosie, I hate to bring up some actual facts, the majority of MS-13 members are American Citizens...
Do you have a source for that claim?
"For more than 10 years, ICE's Operation Community Shield has targeted transnational criminal organizations and criminal aliens involved in street gangs. One of the most notorious of these is MS-13, which was originally formed in Los Angeles by illegal alien thugs from El Salvador, but now operates across the United States and across international borders.
- Over a 10-year period (2005-2014) ICE arrested approximately 4,000 MS-13 members, leaders, and associates. This represents about 13 percent of all gang members they arrested nationwide (31,000) during that period.
- 92 percent of the MS-13 affiliated aliens arrested were illegal aliens. Of those, 16 percent had entered illegally at least twice.
- Just over half of the MS-13 affiliated aliens ICE arrested were citizens of El Salvador. Among the others, 16 percent were Hondurans, 14 percent were Mexicans, and 8 percent were Guatemalans.
- While MS-13 affiliated aliens made up 13 percent of all the arrests, they accounted for 35 percent of the murderers arrested by ICE.
https://cis.org/Fact-Sheet/Fact-Sheet-MS13-Arrests-ICE-20052014
The same thing I said to Texas Grandpa. Anything written by the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) is not worth the paper it is printed on. They are a biased, partisan organization that has made up and misreported facts. Come up with facts from another source and we can talk. CIS is just a bunch of partisan hate mongers who make up stastics to match their agenda.
- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Email to a Friend
- Report Inappropriate Content
Re: Explaining The Animal Frenzy
@sp362wrote:Soosie, I hate to bring up some actual facts, the majority of MS-13 members are American Citizens...
Do you have a source for that claim?
"For more than 10 years, ICE's Operation Community Shield has targeted transnational criminal organizations and criminal aliens involved in street gangs. One of the most notorious of these is MS-13, which was originally formed in Los Angeles by illegal alien thugs from El Salvador, but now operates across the United States and across international borders.
- Over a 10-year period (2005-2014) ICE arrested approximately 4,000 MS-13 members, leaders, and associates. This represents about 13 percent of all gang members they arrested nationwide (31,000) during that period.
- 92 percent of the MS-13 affiliated aliens arrested were illegal aliens. Of those, 16 percent had entered illegally at least twice.
- Just over half of the MS-13 affiliated aliens ICE arrested were citizens of El Salvador. Among the others, 16 percent were Hondurans, 14 percent were Mexicans, and 8 percent were Guatemalans.
- While MS-13 affiliated aliens made up 13 percent of all the arrests, they accounted for 35 percent of the murderers arrested by ICE.
https://cis.org/Fact-Sheet/Fact-Sheet-MS13-Arrests-ICE-20052014
- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Email to a Friend
- Report Inappropriate Content
Re: Explaining The Animal Frenzy
@alferdpackerwrote:Read the entirety of the law - after ten years a naturalized citizen cannot have their citizenship stripped against their will
Is this what you are talking about:
"Refusal to Testify Before Congress: You may not refuse to testify before a U.S. congressional committee whose job it is to investigate your alleged involvement in subversive acts, such as those intended to harm U.S. officials or overthrow the U.S. government. This requirement to testify in order to maintain citizenship status expires after 10 years."
That's all I can find about 10 years.
Please RSVP.
- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Email to a Friend
- Report Inappropriate Content
Re: Explaining The Animal Frenzy
@rk9152wrote:
@Richvawrote:Are you, like Trump, implying that all 11 million of these people are like this?
How insane and gullable.
There are not 11 million MS-13 members so your point is .... well .... pointless.
Der Truimper and the NRAGOP are using MS-13, most of whom are US Citizens, as representative of 11 million undocumented immigrants, most of whom are less likely to commit crimes than US citizens. To pretend otherwise in a futile attempt to disguise this latest racist, xenophobic dogwhistle to his base is...well...Republican.
- Mark as New
- Bookmark
- Subscribe
- Subscribe to RSS Feed
- Permalink
- Email to a Friend
- Report Inappropriate Content
Re: Explaining The Animal Frenzy
Got news for you, Oh goody......I bet it's Fake News, but let's take a look see, shall we?
anyone that immigrated legally and commits certain of crimes are subject to, Yep, "SUBJECT to".....
and needs to be, deported. VERY subjective.
Even those who have become naturalized citizens are subject to deportation for certain reasons. Yep.
https://immigration.findlaw.com/citizenship/can-your-u-s-citizenship-be-revoked-.html
As far as your stating in your post that: “most informed people know immigrants have a far lower crime rate than non-immigrants,” perhaps you should do a little further research. Why? My statement was 100% factual.
https://cis.org/Camarota/NonCitizens-Committed-Disproportionate-Share-Federal-Crimes-201116
Yep...."FEDERAL CRIMES" which most in this country who are arrested for crimes are arrested for violating state and local crimes.
Trump’s claim that immigrants bring ‘tremendous crime’ is still wrong
So like trumps claims, the poster would earn FOUR PINOCCHIO'S.
"FAKE 45 #illegitimate" read a sign at the Woman's March in Washington DC, January 21, 2017.
Open Enrollment: Oct 15-Dec 7, 2019 Find resources to help you decide on the best healthcare insurance plans for you during Open Enrollment season
- Trump
- Republicans
- VoteBlue
- Trump's swamp
- GOP failed logic
- GOP can't govern
- Democrats
- fbi
- DONALD TRUMP
- Impeachment
- DOJ
- PRESIDENT TRUMP
- GOP incompetence
- Mueller
- GOP LIES
- Robert Mueller
- Climate Change
- Ukraine
- 2020 election
- collusion
- GOP victimhood
- russia
- Adam Schiff
- GOP hypocrisy
- White Supremacy
- Kavanaugh
- GOP Hatred
- Putin
- Iran
- Traitors