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Here are a few things to think about on this.

1. Barr farther hired Epstein years ago to be a teacher at a private NY high school. Epstein left suddenly, and Barr father quit not long after. Barr got to know E then. What happened?

2. Some months ago we were told if the Epstein Case got to trial it would be the end of the Trump Presidency.

3. When the first plea deal was struck there were some strange things in it. They did not tell the people who made the charges against E there was a plea agreement. Could be there were so many important names in the case they felt it would really cause more problems than it solved if it all came out. Trump would not have been a reason then as no one would ever think people would be stupid enough to elect him President. We have seen a few of the names in the past few days. It looks like E lived up to that agreement since I have not seen any new cases after that date. The US Attorney took the case from the State.

4. The case only opened up again after the US Attorney was made Sec. of Labor by Trump and the press looked into the details of the agreement. Trump keeps his record in tact. He destroys everything and everybody he touches. If he never appointed this guy we would not be talking about this.

5. E owned a ranch in my state and our AG has been looking into that. About a month ago he released 2 names who visited the ranch. Trump and our former Gov. and his wife. Seemed strange to show his wife at the time, but now know why so the story was making the rounds then. We heard this month that E was going to breed a supper race of people just like Hitler was trying to do at his ranch, and it would have been legal they way he was going to do it. Go look the story up if you want details.

6. We know Trump and E were somewhat close. They both liked young women, and went to each others events. One girl said she was rapped by Trump at E home in NY when she was 13. All of this could still hurt Trump badly.

7. An unanswered question is was this getting to hot for the people in power. They new E was trying to kill himself (not proven yet) and did they just let him to solve a problem for the most powerful people. Where does Barr fit into all of this?

8. Why did the NY Feds look into this case again? Was it due to the Mueller probe, and were they being told to end it, and someone moved quickly to avoid that. We do know they dropped their investigation into the Trump Org. about the money trail through the business to Stormy. Was Barr involved. (NY has taken this up now)

 

Last thought. Trump ran his business in a mob like fashion. You got rewarded if you were loyal, and  thrown away if not. Cohen was not and is in jail. Trump has carried that same method into Govt. and you see it everyday. Barr at JD is an example. Was the Fed. Attorney appointed Sec. of Labor by Trump for what he did in this case years ago. If so it blew up in their faces as could be mob ways do not work in Govt. right now. (They will after 2020 if Trump gets in again)  Time will tell what happens.


Here is a follow up on item 7 as of today. Here is what we know on how it was supposed to work at the Fed. lock-up from people who  have worked for the SD of NY which is basically in the same building. The unit he was in is about as long as a dormitory with cells on one side of the hallway. The cells are small and there are 2 to a cell. The whole place (except 2 places) is covered by cameras which tape everything. This includes the cells. There are 2 guards on duty who check each cell every 30 min. There has been no official cause of death issued by anyone as yet (they say possibly tomorrow).

Now  here is what we know about the E case. 1. He was on suicide watch for 6 days then moved back to this unit after being taken off. The 2 on TV said this is a very short time for S watch and unusual. 2. He had a cell mate when he came back to this unit. The cell mate was removed so E was alone. The 2 said strange and we need to know why. 3. The 2 guards were on duty. They were working an extra shift, and were tired. There should be a record of when they made their checks or if they made them. 4. The TV system should have recorded everything in the cell. Time will tell if it did. If it did not they say problems ahead. 5. The death report should show in detail how he died.

To me it is strange to see Barr act the way he is calling for complete investigation etc. He acted this way when Mueller report came out. He said it cleared the President. We found out later that was not true. Is he using the same approach here. Time will tell. What does everyone think so far.

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Some 'comment' tweets from dt's twitter.  Yes, I am biased.

 

Chris F @ChrisF4101 4h4 hours ago

Donald Trump is on those flight logs too!

 

GibbyThePoo @GibbyThePoo 9h9 hours ago

Replying to @w_terrence

Been a prison guard for 22 years. IT DOESN'T HAPPEN. However, I had zero doubt he wouldn't live long.

 

Yes, That G$ @ThatGMoney 3h3 hours ago

Trump’s Justice Department run by his hand-picked Attorney General let Epstein kill himself in order to protect Bill Clinton? That’s the story you’re going with?

 

Elsewhere

Jules Suzdaltsev

Anyone who thinks the Clintons killed Jeffrey Epstein, but kept Anthony Weiner alive, have irreversible brain poisoning.

 

BrooklynDad_Defiant! @mmpadellan 4h4 hours ago

If Bill Clinton was the ONLY person implicated by Epstein, not trump, his toadie Bill Barr would've gotten a taped confession exonerating trump, which would be playing NON-STOP. Instead, Epstein sleeps with the fishes, and #RapistInChief is free.

 

Melanie Van  @mvanvol_van 3h3 hours ago

Replying to @mmpadellan

No victims have said Bill Clinton had sex with any young girls. Several victims have said in COURT RECORDS Trump raped young girls

 

Will SaletanVerified account @saletan 27m27 minutes ago

Replying to @jules_su

Much like the theories where Obama and the FBI frame Trump as a Russian agent but forget to tell the voters.

 

Bear41 @Bear4117

Exactly who had the most to loose

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@Richva wrote:

Now where are all those conspiracy whack jobs when you need them?


There is already a conspiracy theory floating around that the Clintons are responsible for Epstein's death.

 


Yep, and Donnie retweeted it  What a bozo!



    

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@Richva wrote:

Now where are all those conspiracy whack jobs when you need them?


There is already a conspiracy theory floating around that the Clintons are responsible for Epstein's death.

 

How do we know that trump and some of his buddies weren't responsible for his death so that they wouldn't get a finger pointed at them?


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Here are a few things to think about on this.

1. Barr farther hired Epstein years ago to be a teacher at a private NY high school. Epstein left suddenly, and Barr father quit not long after. Barr got to know E then. What happened?

2. Some months ago we were told if the Epstein Case got to trial it would be the end of the Trump Presidency.

3. When the first plea deal was struck there were some strange things in it. They did not tell the people who made the charges against E there was a plea agreement. Could be there were so many important names in the case they felt it would really cause more problems than it solved if it all came out. Trump would not have been a reason then as no one would ever think people would be stupid enough to elect him President. We have seen a few of the names in the past few days. It looks like E lived up to that agreement since I have not seen any new cases after that date. The US Attorney took the case from the State.

4. The case only opened up again after the US Attorney was made Sec. of Labor by Trump and the press looked into the details of the agreement. Trump keeps his record in tact. He destroys everything and everybody he touches. If he never appointed this guy we would not be talking about this.

5. E owned a ranch in my state and our AG has been looking into that. About a month ago he released 2 names who visited the ranch. Trump and our former Gov. and his wife. Seemed strange to show his wife at the time, but now know why so the story was making the rounds then. We heard this month that E was going to breed a supper race of people just like Hitler was trying to do at his ranch, and it would have been legal they way he was going to do it. Go look the story up if you want details.

6. We know Trump and E were somewhat close. They both liked young women, and went to each others events. One girl said she was rapped by Trump at E home in NY when she was 13. All of this could still hurt Trump badly.

7. An unanswered question is was this getting to hot for the people in power. They new E was trying to kill himself (not proven yet) and did they just let him to solve a problem for the most powerful people. Where does Barr fit into all of this?

8. Why did the NY Feds look into this case again? Was it due to the Mueller probe, and were they being told to end it, and someone moved quickly to avoid that. We do know they dropped their investigation into the Trump Org. about the money trail through the business to Stormy. Was Barr involved. (NY has taken this up now)

 

Last thought. Trump ran his business in a mob like fashion. You got rewarded if you were loyal, and  thrown away if not. Cohen was not and is in jail. Trump has carried that same method into Govt. and you see it everyday. Barr at JD is an example. Was the Fed. Attorney appointed Sec. of Labor by Trump for what he did in this case years ago. If so it blew up in their faces as could be mob ways do not work in Govt. right now. (They will after 2020 if Trump gets in again)  Time will tell what happens.

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   Silver lining:    

A former federal prosecutor told Courthouse News reporter Adam Klasfeld, Epstein’s death could make it easier, not harder, to bring Epstein’s co-conspirators to justice.

 

The reason is that Epstein was the only person who had legal standing to sue the investigators trying to comb through the evidence in his mansions and penthouses, including videotapes of young girls and documents that may mention the names of people who were at his properties on specific dates. Had Epstein lived, and made it to trial, his attorneys could have filed motions to throw out that evidence


Good to know. I hope this is how it will play out.

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Epstein did not commit suicide - he was murdered - to protect tRump and a whole bunch of people who would have been linked to being "johns" in Epstein's criminal sex organizations...

 


Well .... Ya sure didn't 'beat around the bush' Alferd ..... stating what all rational informed people are thinking.

 

But how will Barr, the supposed AG, prove that ..... especially when Barr is also Trump's personal defense attorney?

 

Hopefully Barr will recuse himself due to conflict of interest and, unlike himself, an honest honorable person in the Justice Department will do the investigation .... assuming there are any remaining after Trump's purging of those who refuse to pledge loyalty to him.


Did Sandra bland commit suicide in Texas?

Of course not - only an easily scammed fool would believe that.

Did Epstein commit suicide?

Of course not - will we ever find out who  murdered him and who paid for it?

Nope - won't ever happen...

 

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JMO, but looks like Epstein just held himself accountable and dealt his own justice, if indeed it was suicide.  But, regardless, his sorry life ended in shame and no one is crying over the loss of this pathetic excuse of a man.  His life was done, he knew it, and in the end, he also knew he was worth less than a pile of poop.  What a way to go.  No dignity in hanging in a jail cell.

 

Criminal investigation is over, but other investigations just beginning.  FBI, IG are opening investigations.  Epstein did not do this on his own; they are others complicit in his sex-trafficking, co-conspirators, accomplices, participants.  Methinks the sordid story is just beginning. 

 

Stay tuned.



    

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@alferdpacker wrote:

Epstein did not commit suicide - he was murdered - to protect tRump and a whole bunch of people who would have been linked to being "johns" in Epstein's criminal sex organizations...

 


Well .... Ya sure didn't 'beat around the bush' Alferd ..... stating what all rational informed people are thinking.

 

But how will Barr, the supposed AG, prove that ..... especially when Barr is also Trump's personal defense attorney?

 

Hopefully Barr will recuse himself due to conflict of interest and, unlike himself, an honest honorable person in the Justice Department will do the investigation .... assuming there are any remaining after Trump's purging of those who refuse to pledge loyalty to him.

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