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LydiaN586309 posted...

Voting should be a right of all citizens...even if they're elderly or black!

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And it is!
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Yes, it may be a Right! But the Republican obstructionist mob has made it their mission to repress the vote wherever they can all over this nation. It is an atrocity!

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How can you day that? Sounds to me that you do not want any voter registration laws...some states do not require any ID to vote ... I hope that even you would want only eligible voters to vote.

A total of 17 states required voters to present photo identification, while 17 accepted other forms of identification. Commonly accepted forms of ID include driver's licenses, state-issued identification cards, and military identification cards.

Voter registration laws are set by our states.

FYI https://www.vote.org/voter-registration-rules/
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@KidBoy2 wrote:

LydiaN586309 posted...

Voting should be a right of all citizens...even if they're elderly or black!

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And it is!

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Yes, it may be a Right! But the Republican obstructionist mob has made it their mission to repress the vote wherever they can all over this nation. It is an atrocity! 

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Statement from County officials -

Jefferson County operates a Senior Center that provides meals and entertainment to senior citizens in Jefferson County three days per week. The Jefferson County Board of Commissioners has a long standing practice of not allowing political activities during normal business hours or at County sponsored activities. These senior citizens are under the complete care and supervision of Jefferson County while they are at the Senior Center. Jefferson County Administration felt uncomfortable with allowing Senior Center patrons to leave the facility in a bus with an unknown third party. Additionally, the event in question that took place at the Jefferson County Senior Center was led by the President of the Jefferson County Democratic Party and as such was considered a political event. No seniors at the Jefferson County Senior Center were denied their right to vote. In fact, Senior Center staff routinely arrange Jefferson County Public Transit to transport senior citizens to vote

 

Would this have happened if the pick up was not from a publically-owned and ran facility?

Would this have happened if the organization was more non-partisan in their efforts?

 

I am pretty sure this would have been the case in my county too - it is a minority ran county for the most part - we just try to keep political partisanship away from publically owned facilities since they are paid for by all citizens of the locality.  

 

Don't see this as a race issue - see it more as a partisan issue.

The organization, Black Votes Matter, should have just picked a pick up location that was not publically owned and operated.

 

Let's leave politics out of our community places where the sense of community needs to be paramount and not divided by any other factors.

 

Just IMO.

 

 

 

 

 


I agree with a lot of what you posted, but how do you justify the center "ordering people off the bus"?  They are adults, once they were on, they were free to go.

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@KidBoy2 wrote:
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Jefferson County Administrator Adam Brett told the AJC that the county considered the transporting of the group to be “political activity,” which would violate county policy, since they operate they senior center.

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Yes, it was a political activity....not what a government should do with taxpayers money.





I would agree with you if the county were paying for the bus, but they were not.  Add this to the fact that the person in charge of the election process is also running for Governor and has not recused himself from overseeing the election and this looks like an attempt to block voters.

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Statement from County officials -

Jefferson County operates a Senior Center that provides meals and entertainment to senior citizens in Jefferson County three days per week. The Jefferson County Board of Commissioners has a long standing practice of not allowing political activities during normal business hours or at County sponsored activities. These senior citizens are under the complete care and supervision of Jefferson County while they are at the Senior Center. Jefferson County Administration felt uncomfortable with allowing Senior Center patrons to leave the facility in a bus with an unknown third party. Additionally, the event in question that took place at the Jefferson County Senior Center was led by the President of the Jefferson County Democratic Party and as such was considered a political event. No seniors at the Jefferson County Senior Center were denied their right to vote. In fact, Senior Center staff routinely arrange Jefferson County Public Transit to transport senior citizens to vote

 

Would this have happened if the pick up was not from a publically-owned and ran facility?

Would this have happened if the organization was more non-partisan in their efforts?

 

I am pretty sure this would have been the case in my county too - it is a minority ran county for the most part - we just try to keep political partisanship away from publically owned facilities since they are paid for by all citizens of the locality.  

 

Don't see this as a race issue - see it more as a partisan issue.

The organization, Black Votes Matter, should have just picked a pick up location that was not publically owned and operated.

 

Let's leave politics out of our community places where the sense of community needs to be paramount and not divided by any other factors.

 

Just IMO.

 

 

 

 

 

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Jefferson County Administrator Adam Brett told the AJC that the county considered the transporting of the group to be “political activity,” which would violate county policy, since they operate they senior center.

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Yes, it was a political activity....not what a government should do with taxpayers money.




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@KidBoy2 wrote:

LydiaN586309 posted...

Voting should be a right of all citizens...even if they're elderly or black!

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And it is!

So then ........... are you saying that these voters being hindered in this way was wrong? Or not?


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Voting should be a right of all citizens...even if they're elderly or black!

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And it is!
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https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/411777-dozens-of-black-senior-citizens-ordered-off-bus-taki...

 

Dozens of black senior citizens ordered off bus taking them to vote

 

 

Dozens of black senior citizens were ordered off a bus taking them to vote this week in Georgia.

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported that the bus was preparing to leave a county-operated senior center when the center director told them to get off.

 

LaTosha Brown, co-founder of Black Voters Matter, the group who arranged for the bus to take the seniors to vote early, told the Journal-Constitution that a county clerk called the senior center to raise concerns about the bus.

 

Brown said that Black Voters Matter had secured permission from the senior center for the event.

"We knew it was an intimidation tactic,” Brown said. “It was really unnecessary. These are grown people.”

 

Jefferson County Administrator Adam Brett told the AJC that the county considered the transporting of the group to be “political activity,” which would violate county policy, since they operate they senior center.

 

The event was reportedly organized with the help of the county’s Democratic Party Chairwoman Diane Evans, Brett said.

 

“Jefferson County administration felt uncomfortable with allowing senior center patrons to leave the facility in a bus with an unknown third party,” Brett said. “No seniors at the Jefferson County senior center were denied their right to vote.”

 

Evans, who attended the event, said she helped organize it as a private citizen, and denied that it was political.

 

The group of about 40 said that they would cast their votes later. Georgia voters are choosing between Democrat Stacey Abrams and Republican Brian Kemp in the race for governor. 

 

Brown, the Black Voters Matter co-founder, said that the seniors were “so resolved” about voting.

“They said: ‘We’re going to vote. Nobody’s going to stop us,’ ” she said. “It wasn’t the first time someone has denied them or tried to prevent them from voting.”

 

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‘We’re going to vote. Nobody’s going to stop us,’ 

 

Perhaps, but Republicans are sure going to try to stop you from voting.

 

Seriously., we need the Voting Rights Act back. 

 

Republican voter suppression is everywhere.

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Unfortunately, it is true that Republican voter suppression is everywhere which proves that they fear they could  not win if they played fair and allowed an open vote. But then again, the republican party has never really promoted "fair play!"  I just hope these folks do hold their resolve and are able to vote at another time.  Voting should be a right of all citizens...even if they're elderly or black!

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https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/411777-dozens-of-black-senior-citizens-ordered-off-bus-taki...

 

Dozens of black senior citizens ordered off bus taking them to vote

 

 

Dozens of black senior citizens were ordered off a bus taking them to vote this week in Georgia.

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported that the bus was preparing to leave a county-operated senior center when the center director told them to get off.

 

LaTosha Brown, co-founder of Black Voters Matter, the group who arranged for the bus to take the seniors to vote early, told the Journal-Constitution that a county clerk called the senior center to raise concerns about the bus.

 

Brown said that Black Voters Matter had secured permission from the senior center for the event.

"We knew it was an intimidation tactic,” Brown said. “It was really unnecessary. These are grown people.”

 

Jefferson County Administrator Adam Brett told the AJC that the county considered the transporting of the group to be “political activity,” which would violate county policy, since they operate they senior center.

 

The event was reportedly organized with the help of the county’s Democratic Party Chairwoman Diane Evans, Brett said.

 

“Jefferson County administration felt uncomfortable with allowing senior center patrons to leave the facility in a bus with an unknown third party,” Brett said. “No seniors at the Jefferson County senior center were denied their right to vote.”

 

Evans, who attended the event, said she helped organize it as a private citizen, and denied that it was political.

 

The group of about 40 said that they would cast their votes later. Georgia voters are choosing between Democrat Stacey Abrams and Republican Brian Kemp in the race for governor. 

 

Brown, the Black Voters Matter co-founder, said that the seniors were “so resolved” about voting.

“They said: ‘We’re going to vote. Nobody’s going to stop us,’ ” she said. “It wasn’t the first time someone has denied them or tried to prevent them from voting.”

 

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‘We’re going to vote. Nobody’s going to stop us,’ 

 

Perhaps, but Republicans are sure going to try to stop you from voting.

 

Seriously., we need the Voting Rights Act back. 

 

Republican voter suppression is everywhere.

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