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mick - What we have here is the totally dogmatic Republican agenda - one which will spout the party line no matter how absurd, and defend the destruction of the Middle Class by claiming  to let it survive would somehow be a triumph of the Commies (whom they now calls "neoMarxist" to keep from getting banned).

 

They cannot explain how ANY civilization will be possible WITHOUT taxing the rich to help the entire society, because it contradicts their dogmatic mantra that only the very rich deserve the aid and protection of the Government. The FACT their dribble-down economics has NEVER worked at anytime anywhere means nothing to them because it's and "article of faith" that their GOPerLords would never deceive them about such things, so the only reason dribble-down hasn't worked YET is we haven't given the Rich enough tax cuts and special privilage.

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3.6 billion in cuts, all of which hurt those who need it the most

 

Really, have you actually looked at all those cuts to make that assumption or are you just following the "Party line".

 

Secondly, you do realize, do you not, that you are preaching "From each....to each" also called "wealth distribution" also called "take from the rich, give to the poor" also called Marxism.


We're only a "Christian Nation" when Conservatives say so.  Otherwise, everyone for themselves....


"Take from the rich to give to the poor" via government action is Marxism. Individual responsibility to aid the poor is Christianity.

 

Conservatives understand the difference.


So Conservatives think it's God's will to help the poor with your personal resources even if you join a criminal conspiracy to rob them blind every chance you get? Not sure which Gospel that comes from - sounds like St. Rush and The Little bush (one of the lesser read apocraphilia).

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@rk9152 wrote:

@Centristsin2010 wrote:

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3.6 billion in cuts, all of which hurt those who need it the most

 

Really, have you actually looked at all those cuts to make that assumption or are you just following the "Party line".

 

Secondly, you do realize, do you not, that you are preaching "From each....to each" also called "wealth distribution" also called "take from the rich, give to the poor" also called Marxism.


We're only a "Christian Nation" when Conservatives say so.  Otherwise, everyone for themselves....


"Take from the rich to give to the poor" via government action is Marxism. Individual responsibility to aid the poor is Christianity.

 

Conservatives understand the difference.


So Conservatives think it's God's will to help the poor with your personal resources even if you join a criminal conspiracy to rob them blind every chance you get? Not sure which Gospel that comes from - sounds like St. Rush and The Little bush (one of the lesser read apocraphilia).

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@mickstuder wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

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Well, if you are right, relax, he will be ousted in 2020 and the neoMarxists can continue their march.


At the rate you're going, you won't make it past 2018.


Really?? What is going to happen?? Do you think the left wing street thugs are going to succeed.


The Only Thug That Will Be Repsonsible For Trumps Demise - Is the One Who Ate Tic Tacs - Groped Woman and Became President..............................

 

By Now You Would Think - The Greatest At Everything In The World - would have been able to learn a few things - On The Job - and stop shooting himself in the foot - but he's incapable of - Learning - His Attention Span is Too Limited 

 

Remember - Trump is going to NATO - NATO Secretaries have been counsled to keep their prepared remarks Short because the New US President has such a Short Attention Span 

 

 


If you are expecting President Trump to lead your left wing revolution, it's gonna be a long wait.

 

As to short speeches, I have attended government meetings, conventions, seminars, etc. the "hot air" is unreal. President Trump, with his business background is a more "get to the point" kinda guy. I don't know if it is a short attention span or no patience for wasting time - either way, it seems like a better way to run government get togethers.


Really - do you really beleive all this nonsense or are you just being a loyal Trump sycophant?

 

Trump has been President for - 125 days, 21 hours, 38 minutes and several seconds 

 

Please name 3 things that he has accomplished that has changed the lives of a Majority of Americans in a Positive Way 

 

Every Single Day All That Americans Here From Anyone in Washington - Is a update on a Current Scandal or Investigation into Trump Inc. or a brand new revealation about a brand new Scandal or Investigation into Trump Inc.

 

Americans need to remember one very important Date September 11 2001...........................we had another incompetent buffoon in the White House 

 

Here is what the Bush Administration Accomplished for the USA in the Nine Months Leading up to 911 

 

1. 

 

Thats it Period - End of List - what was he doing?

 

Here is what Trump has accomplished for the USA in the first 5 Months of his first year 

 

1. ZERO 

 

Thats it Period - End of List - whats he doing? 

 

Working for Russia - trying to find a way to lift Russian Sanctions - trying to dismantle NATO - elevating one of the Worlds Foremost Sponsors of Terrorism to Elite American Military Partner - Saudi Arabia 

 

In Trumps first 5 months he has done nothing for Amercans but he's done plenty for Russia and Asia and he's done everything he could to alienate Americas only real Allies in the World - NATO and the rest of Europe -  while patronizing China - Russia - Egypt - Etc.

 

Just this week he has refused to commit to Article 5 of the NATO Treaty - Collective Defense 

 

NOTE: Trump makes a Big Deal about NATO allies not paying their Fair Share - If Belgium decided to spend 50% of their GDP on their Military - does any rationale person think the USA is going to spend one cent less on their own Military Budget - NO of course not 

 

This is simply another Trump LIE - if every NATO Country paid their 2% - The USA Tax Payers Would Not Save A Cent - The Republican Congress & The Republican President would not reduce the 54 Billion in new Spending they just requested in the Budget or would they reduce the almost 1 Trillion a year they currently spend 

 

NATO isn;t a Country Club that requries you to pay DUES - its about how much you spend on your own Military 

 

 

 

 

( " China if You're Listening - Get Trumps Tax Returns " )

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@Centristsin2010 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@Centristsin2010 wrote:

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RK--What we realize is that little donnie promised people who voted for him that he would take care of him, and the opposite is true.  What we realize is that many people, American citizens who really need Medicaid, Medicare, and SS may have to go without.  Government is of the people, for the people, not only the rich people.

  What is happening here is fraud.  Vulnerable people believed him, trusted him, and he proved what most Americas already knew, trump is a con man, in it only for himself, and those who bow to him.

And it is in the best interest or all Americans to provide these entitlements.  As Olderscout said, once people start using the ER as a form of primary care, prices go up with regard to hospital bills to compensate, or staff is cut leading to poor health care, or hospitals close. 

We have discussed this before. 

Slashing Medicaid, Medicare, and playing with SS puts many people in harms way, for a number of reasons.  Analysts, discussing this today called it a few different things--between NPR and CNN, this budget was called a huge money grab, a shell game to benefit the rich, and a Robin Hood in reverse.

Knowing that anyone could support such a thing is disturbing.  People will suffer, some will die--and why?? so the Repubs can build a wall we don't need?  Schlep trump's butt around the country?  Put money into our military that it doesn't need?  The well being of human beings loses to a wall?  a trip to florida? unneeded military spending?? 

This seems more like a communist country where the leaders and all those who support him have life's essentials and the rest have nothing.    Really, if all this comes to past, it will not feel like the United States of America any more.

 


Well, if you are right, relax, he will be ousted in 2020 and the neoMarxists can continue their march.


At the rate you're going, you won't make it past 2018.


Really?? What is going to happen?? Do you think the left wing street thugs are going to succeed.


Ahhhh, more perjorative rhetoric, just as one should expect.

Yes, when I see masked thugs destroying property, trashing police cars and blocking free speech, I will probably offer pejorative rhetoric. Seems more rational the the acceptance from you.

 

As many suspect, trump will cause the Repubs to lose one, if not both Houses of Congress in the 2018 elections.

We shall see what we shall see.


 

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@mickstuder wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@Centristsin2010 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@pc6063 wrote:

RK--What we realize is that little donnie promised people who voted for him that he would take care of him, and the opposite is true.  What we realize is that many people, American citizens who really need Medicaid, Medicare, and SS may have to go without.  Government is of the people, for the people, not only the rich people.

  What is happening here is fraud.  Vulnerable people believed him, trusted him, and he proved what most Americas already knew, trump is a con man, in it only for himself, and those who bow to him.

And it is in the best interest or all Americans to provide these entitlements.  As Olderscout said, once people start using the ER as a form of primary care, prices go up with regard to hospital bills to compensate, or staff is cut leading to poor health care, or hospitals close. 

We have discussed this before. 

Slashing Medicaid, Medicare, and playing with SS puts many people in harms way, for a number of reasons.  Analysts, discussing this today called it a few different things--between NPR and CNN, this budget was called a huge money grab, a shell game to benefit the rich, and a Robin Hood in reverse.

Knowing that anyone could support such a thing is disturbing.  People will suffer, some will die--and why?? so the Repubs can build a wall we don't need?  Schlep trump's butt around the country?  Put money into our military that it doesn't need?  The well being of human beings loses to a wall?  a trip to florida? unneeded military spending?? 

This seems more like a communist country where the leaders and all those who support him have life's essentials and the rest have nothing.    Really, if all this comes to past, it will not feel like the United States of America any more.

 


Well, if you are right, relax, he will be ousted in 2020 and the neoMarxists can continue their march.


At the rate you're going, you won't make it past 2018.


Really?? What is going to happen?? Do you think the left wing street thugs are going to succeed.


The Only Thug That Will Be Repsonsible For Trumps Demise - Is the One Who Ate Tic Tacs - Groped Woman and Became President..............................

 

By Now You Would Think - The Greatest At Everything In The World - would have been able to learn a few things - On The Job - and stop shooting himself in the foot - but he's incapable of - Learning - His Attention Span is Too Limited 

 

Remember - Trump is going to NATO - NATO Secretaries have been counsled to keep their prepared remarks Short because the New US President has such a Short Attention Span 

 

 


If you are expecting President Trump to lead your left wing revolution, it's gonna be a long wait.

 

As to short speeches, I have attended government meetings, conventions, seminars, etc. the "hot air" is unreal. President Trump, with his business background is a more "get to the point" kinda guy. I don't know if it is a short attention span or no patience for wasting time - either way, it seems like a better way to run government get togethers.

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@rk9152 wrote:

@Centristsin2010 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@pc6063 wrote:

RK--What we realize is that little donnie promised people who voted for him that he would take care of him, and the opposite is true.  What we realize is that many people, American citizens who really need Medicaid, Medicare, and SS may have to go without.  Government is of the people, for the people, not only the rich people.

  What is happening here is fraud.  Vulnerable people believed him, trusted him, and he proved what most Americas already knew, trump is a con man, in it only for himself, and those who bow to him.

And it is in the best interest or all Americans to provide these entitlements.  As Olderscout said, once people start using the ER as a form of primary care, prices go up with regard to hospital bills to compensate, or staff is cut leading to poor health care, or hospitals close. 

We have discussed this before. 

Slashing Medicaid, Medicare, and playing with SS puts many people in harms way, for a number of reasons.  Analysts, discussing this today called it a few different things--between NPR and CNN, this budget was called a huge money grab, a shell game to benefit the rich, and a Robin Hood in reverse.

Knowing that anyone could support such a thing is disturbing.  People will suffer, some will die--and why?? so the Repubs can build a wall we don't need?  Schlep trump's butt around the country?  Put money into our military that it doesn't need?  The well being of human beings loses to a wall?  a trip to florida? unneeded military spending?? 

This seems more like a communist country where the leaders and all those who support him have life's essentials and the rest have nothing.    Really, if all this comes to past, it will not feel like the United States of America any more.

 


Well, if you are right, relax, he will be ousted in 2020 and the neoMarxists can continue their march.


At the rate you're going, you won't make it past 2018.


Really?? What is going to happen?? Do you think the left wing street thugs are going to succeed.


Ahhhh, more perjorative rhetoric, just as one should expect.

 

As many suspect, trump will cause the Repubs to lose one, if not both Houses of Congress in the 2018 elections.


"FAKE 45 #illegitimate" read a sign at the Woman's March in Washington DC, January 21, 2017.
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@rk9152 wrote:

@Centristsin2010 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@pc6063 wrote:

RK--What we realize is that little donnie promised people who voted for him that he would take care of him, and the opposite is true.  What we realize is that many people, American citizens who really need Medicaid, Medicare, and SS may have to go without.  Government is of the people, for the people, not only the rich people.

  What is happening here is fraud.  Vulnerable people believed him, trusted him, and he proved what most Americas already knew, trump is a con man, in it only for himself, and those who bow to him.

And it is in the best interest or all Americans to provide these entitlements.  As Olderscout said, once people start using the ER as a form of primary care, prices go up with regard to hospital bills to compensate, or staff is cut leading to poor health care, or hospitals close. 

We have discussed this before. 

Slashing Medicaid, Medicare, and playing with SS puts many people in harms way, for a number of reasons.  Analysts, discussing this today called it a few different things--between NPR and CNN, this budget was called a huge money grab, a shell game to benefit the rich, and a Robin Hood in reverse.

Knowing that anyone could support such a thing is disturbing.  People will suffer, some will die--and why?? so the Repubs can build a wall we don't need?  Schlep trump's butt around the country?  Put money into our military that it doesn't need?  The well being of human beings loses to a wall?  a trip to florida? unneeded military spending?? 

This seems more like a communist country where the leaders and all those who support him have life's essentials and the rest have nothing.    Really, if all this comes to past, it will not feel like the United States of America any more.

 


Well, if you are right, relax, he will be ousted in 2020 and the neoMarxists can continue their march.


At the rate you're going, you won't make it past 2018.


Really?? What is going to happen?? Do you think the left wing street thugs are going to succeed.


The Only Thug That Will Be Repsonsible For Trumps Demise - Is the One Who Ate Tic Tacs - Groped Woman and Became President..............................

 

By Now You Would Think - The Greatest At Everything In The World - would have been able to learn a few things - On The Job - and stop shooting himself in the foot - but he's incapable of - Learning - His Attention Span is Too Limited 

 

Remember - Trump is going to NATO - NATO Secretaries have been counsled to keep their prepared remarks Short because the New US President has such a Short Attention Span 

 

 

( " China if You're Listening - Get Trumps Tax Returns " )

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@Centristsin2010 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@pc6063 wrote:

RK--What we realize is that little donnie promised people who voted for him that he would take care of him, and the opposite is true.  What we realize is that many people, American citizens who really need Medicaid, Medicare, and SS may have to go without.  Government is of the people, for the people, not only the rich people.

  What is happening here is fraud.  Vulnerable people believed him, trusted him, and he proved what most Americas already knew, trump is a con man, in it only for himself, and those who bow to him.

And it is in the best interest or all Americans to provide these entitlements.  As Olderscout said, once people start using the ER as a form of primary care, prices go up with regard to hospital bills to compensate, or staff is cut leading to poor health care, or hospitals close. 

We have discussed this before. 

Slashing Medicaid, Medicare, and playing with SS puts many people in harms way, for a number of reasons.  Analysts, discussing this today called it a few different things--between NPR and CNN, this budget was called a huge money grab, a shell game to benefit the rich, and a Robin Hood in reverse.

Knowing that anyone could support such a thing is disturbing.  People will suffer, some will die--and why?? so the Repubs can build a wall we don't need?  Schlep trump's butt around the country?  Put money into our military that it doesn't need?  The well being of human beings loses to a wall?  a trip to florida? unneeded military spending?? 

This seems more like a communist country where the leaders and all those who support him have life's essentials and the rest have nothing.    Really, if all this comes to past, it will not feel like the United States of America any more.

 


Well, if you are right, relax, he will be ousted in 2020 and the neoMarxists can continue their march.


At the rate you're going, you won't make it past 2018.


Really?? What is going to happen?? Do you think the left wing street thugs are going to succeed.

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   'donald supporter" game play:   make a challenge to dodge the issue.    Anyone who posts an article that discussed the cuts that are proposed, they would immediately attack as from a website that has a political history that they disagree with therefore the analysis is invalid.

    They don't want to discuss the proposal.     40+ pages is just too long and complicated for them.

 

     Even the opening statements are pretty much bs. rhetoric.    We must increase America's energy resources....which is exactly WHY they want to sell half of the national reserves?     Selling off the Feds natural reserve does nothing to reduce cost to consumers, nor does it put money in the pocket of every American...but it does makes some big bucks that will never trickle down to those who could actually benefit from Fed largesse.     Nope not those folks, the GOP demonize anyone who has to rely of Fed subsidies because they work at minimum wage ( which Donald et al would like to eliminate) making these people out as lazy, when infact paying them a liveable wage would be a better way to eliminate their need of some Fed. subsidies.

 

      No matter, the donald supporters are only here to distract from any real conversation and enjoy watching the generational genocide roll along as long as they are sure they will always only be outside observers.  


"Genocide"" - can you offer the name of any victim to add credence to your hyperbole?

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