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It is not about the transcript, it is about THE WHISTLE BLOWER COMPLAINT WHICH THEY LEGALLY COULD NOT BLOCK

 

I agree the transcript is a diversion, a distraction.  

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There is a report out this evening that the whistle blowers report has been declassified. Lets hope that is true.

Breaking this evening is the the DNI had referred the complaint to the JD for criminal investigation and action.

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BY:  Sean Davis

 

If the latest media-manufactured hysteria over President Donald Trump’s interactions with the Ukrainian government looks familiar, it’s because it is. The same tired playbook is being run by the same discredited people with the same goal: get rid of Trump, by any means necessary.

 

Just as the Clinton campaign, Obama administration holdovers, and complicit media allies peddled lies about Russian collusion while engaging in literal Russian collusion during and after the 2016 presidential campaign, so too did Joseph Biden literally threaten to withhold money from Ukraine if it failed to fire the prosecutor investigating his son’s company.

 

To hear the media tell it, Trump committed treason. The walls are closing in. The end is nigh. Why? Well, the details there are a little fuzzy, as they always seem to be. Somebody heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend who heard it from another that Trump had threatened Ukraine that it must investigate Hunter Biden, the troubled son of Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden…or else.

 

The media initially hyped their latest faux scandal by claiming a deeply connected “whistleblower” listened to a phone call between Trump and the head of Ukraine’s government, in which Trump allegedly threatened to withhold money if the Eastern European nation failed to investigate allegations of corruption by Hunter Biden. Then it morphed into the source reading a transcript or readout of the phone call. And eventually it was buried in the 22nd paragraph of a breathless CNN story that the alleged “whistleblower” hadn’t in fact directly read or seen or heard anything he or she was allegedly blowing the whistle on:

 

The whistleblower didn’t have direct knowledge of the communications, an official briefed on the matter told CNN. Instead, the whistleblower’s concerns came in part from learning information that was not obtained during the course of their work, and those details have played a role in the administration’s determination that the complaint didn’t fit the reporting requirements under the intelligence whistleblower law, the official said.

There’s burying the lede, and then there’s fitting the lede for cement boots, pushing it down an elevator shaft into a pool of bullets, and then tossing the remains overboard somewhere over the Marianas Trench. CNN opted for the latter. One man’s “whistleblower” is apparently another man’s rumor-monger or anonymous gossip columnist. The Wall Street Journal later disclosed that there was no quid pro quo and no discussion of U.S. financial aid during the call the whistleblower **bleep** axe-grinder never even heard.

 

On Sunday, Trump did admit that he raised the topic of Biden and his son Hunter with the Ukrainian president within the context of needing to root out corruption in Ukraine, which raises all sorts of questions Democrats and their media allies would desperately like to avoid, such as: did Hunter Biden have sketchy business dealings in Ukraine? Did he benefit financially from those arrangements? Were any Ukrainian companies he worked for being investigated? Did his father, as the vice president of the United States, personally intervene to shut down Ukrainian officials who were investigating Hunter Biden’s Ukrainian business arrangements?

 

The answer to all those questions is a resounding YES. Despite being kicked out of the Navy for cocaine abuse and having no demonstrable business acumen, Hunter Biden nonetheless in 2014 landed a $50,000 per month gig on the board of Burisma, a Ukrainian oil and gas concern.

 

Coincidentally, the law firm that helped arrange the sinecure, Boies Schiller, previously hired Fusion GPS, the shady opposition research firm retained by the Clinton campaign and Democratic National Committee to concoct the Russian collusion hoax, to run interference for Theranos, the infamous fake blood testing company whose founder was charged with wire fraud.

 

When Burisma later attracted the attention of Ukrainian law enforcement, Joe Biden personally intervened to make sure Viktor Shokin, the prosecutor looking into the company’s finances, was fired. You don’t have to take my word for this, because Joe Biden bragged about his efforts to fire the prosecutor investigating the company that paid Hunter Biden a $50,000 per month sinecure. On camera. In detail. Last year (the specific statement from Biden begins at 52:20 in the video):

 

 

 

And I went over, I guess, the 12th, 13th time to Kiev. And I was supposed to announce that there was another billion-dollar loan guarantee. And I had gotten a commitment from Poroshenko and from Yatsenyuk that they would take action against the state prosecutor. And they didn’t.

 

So they said they had—they were walking out to a press conference. I said, nah, I’m not going to—or, we’re not going to give you the billion dollars. They said, you have no authority. You’re not the president. The president said—I said, call him. (Laughter.) I said, I’m telling you, you’re not getting the billion dollars. I said, you’re not getting the billion. I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money. Well, son of a **bleep**. (Laughter.) He got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time.

Well, then.

 

The similarities between the anti-Trump Russian collusion operation and the fledgling anti-Trump Ukraine operation are eerie. If not for the utter implosion of the Russian collusion nonsense, culminating in a two-year special counsel investigation run by anti-Trump partisans that nonetheless found zero collusion, the Ukraine operation might almost be believable.

 

The thinly sourced rumors, the bombshell evidence that was always just around the next corner, the hyperventilating media coverage, the demands for ever more invasive investigative enemas from left-wing lawmakers like Reps. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) and Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.), the fact that the alleged crimes were all committed not by Trump, but by his political opponents. If we hadn’t already been shown this same movie over and over and over again for three years, it might actually be interesting.

 

Instead, it’s just another manufactured narrative peddled by partisans desperate to prevent anyone from shining a spotlight on their own shenanigans. Just as the Russian collusion conspiracy begins and ends with Hillary Clinton, the Ukraine corruption scandal begins and ends with Joe and Hunter Biden. And just as they did with the investigation of the Russia hoax, their media allies will do everything in their power to make sure that evidence never sees the light of day.

 

 

 


Still at it. You better read one of the support articles your author uses as they are pro Biden and anti Trump. The first support articles has nothing to do with this subject. Once again the author took 2 different stories which were true at the time written and cherry picked them to come up with something that is not true. The Trump supporters are really getting desperate with all the real news coming out. Well at least this time you did not start a new thread so that I guess is progress. Now some big news. Rudy has been telling us the State Dept. asked him to get involved. This evening the State Dept. put out a memo saying they did not, and Rudy was not telling the truth. There is more but I will wait for the next attempted diversion for that. Now Rudy will be called to testify about this when the hearings start. No wounder Rudy broke up the other night on CNN, and on FOX a few times today. Rudy knows how the Mob works, and he could be caught in it.

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BY:  Sean Davis

 

If the latest media-manufactured hysteria over President Donald Trump’s interactions with the Ukrainian government looks familiar, it’s because it is. The same tired playbook is being run by the same discredited people with the same goal: get rid of Trump, by any means necessary.

 

Just as the Clinton campaign, Obama administration holdovers, and complicit media allies peddled lies about Russian collusion while engaging in literal Russian collusion during and after the 2016 presidential campaign, so too did Joseph Biden literally threaten to withhold money from Ukraine if it failed to fire the prosecutor investigating his son’s company.

 

To hear the media tell it, Trump committed treason. The walls are closing in. The end is nigh. Why? Well, the details there are a little fuzzy, as they always seem to be. Somebody heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend who heard it from another that Trump had threatened Ukraine that it must investigate Hunter Biden, the troubled son of Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden…or else.

 

The media initially hyped their latest faux scandal by claiming a deeply connected “whistleblower” listened to a phone call between Trump and the head of Ukraine’s government, in which Trump allegedly threatened to withhold money if the Eastern European nation failed to investigate allegations of corruption by Hunter Biden. Then it morphed into the source reading a transcript or readout of the phone call. And eventually it was buried in the 22nd paragraph of a breathless CNN story that the alleged “whistleblower” hadn’t in fact directly read or seen or heard anything he or she was allegedly blowing the whistle on:

 

The whistleblower didn’t have direct knowledge of the communications, an official briefed on the matter told CNN. Instead, the whistleblower’s concerns came in part from learning information that was not obtained during the course of their work, and those details have played a role in the administration’s determination that the complaint didn’t fit the reporting requirements under the intelligence whistleblower law, the official said.

There’s burying the lede, and then there’s fitting the lede for cement boots, pushing it down an elevator shaft into a pool of bullets, and then tossing the remains overboard somewhere over the Marianas Trench. CNN opted for the latter. One man’s “whistleblower” is apparently another man’s rumor-monger or anonymous gossip columnist. The Wall Street Journal later disclosed that there was no quid pro quo and no discussion of U.S. financial aid during the call the whistleblower **bleep** axe-grinder never even heard.

 

On Sunday, Trump did admit that he raised the topic of Biden and his son Hunter with the Ukrainian president within the context of needing to root out corruption in Ukraine, which raises all sorts of questions Democrats and their media allies would desperately like to avoid, such as: did Hunter Biden have sketchy business dealings in Ukraine? Did he benefit financially from those arrangements? Were any Ukrainian companies he worked for being investigated? Did his father, as the vice president of the United States, personally intervene to shut down Ukrainian officials who were investigating Hunter Biden’s Ukrainian business arrangements?

 

The answer to all those questions is a resounding YES. Despite being kicked out of the Navy for cocaine abuse and having no demonstrable business acumen, Hunter Biden nonetheless in 2014 landed a $50,000 per month gig on the board of Burisma, a Ukrainian oil and gas concern.

 

Coincidentally, the law firm that helped arrange the sinecure, Boies Schiller, previously hired Fusion GPS, the shady opposition research firm retained by the Clinton campaign and Democratic National Committee to concoct the Russian collusion hoax, to run interference for Theranos, the infamous fake blood testing company whose founder was charged with wire fraud.

 

When Burisma later attracted the attention of Ukrainian law enforcement, Joe Biden personally intervened to make sure Viktor Shokin, the prosecutor looking into the company’s finances, was fired. You don’t have to take my word for this, because Joe Biden bragged about his efforts to fire the prosecutor investigating the company that paid Hunter Biden a $50,000 per month sinecure. On camera. In detail. Last year (the specific statement from Biden begins at 52:20 in the video):

 

 

 

And I went over, I guess, the 12th, 13th time to Kiev. And I was supposed to announce that there was another billion-dollar loan guarantee. And I had gotten a commitment from Poroshenko and from Yatsenyuk that they would take action against the state prosecutor. And they didn’t.

 

So they said they had—they were walking out to a press conference. I said, nah, I’m not going to—or, we’re not going to give you the billion dollars. They said, you have no authority. You’re not the president. The president said—I said, call him. (Laughter.) I said, I’m telling you, you’re not getting the billion dollars. I said, you’re not getting the billion. I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money. Well, son of a **bleep**. (Laughter.) He got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time.

Well, then.

 

The similarities between the anti-Trump Russian collusion operation and the fledgling anti-Trump Ukraine operation are eerie. If not for the utter implosion of the Russian collusion nonsense, culminating in a two-year special counsel investigation run by anti-Trump partisans that nonetheless found zero collusion, the Ukraine operation might almost be believable.

 

The thinly sourced rumors, the bombshell evidence that was always just around the next corner, the hyperventilating media coverage, the demands for ever more invasive investigative enemas from left-wing lawmakers like Reps. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) and Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.), the fact that the alleged crimes were all committed not by Trump, but by his political opponents. If we hadn’t already been shown this same movie over and over and over again for three years, it might actually be interesting.

 

Instead, it’s just another manufactured narrative peddled by partisans desperate to prevent anyone from shining a spotlight on their own shenanigans. Just as the Russian collusion conspiracy begins and ends with Hillary Clinton, the Ukraine corruption scandal begins and ends with Joe and Hunter Biden. And just as they did with the investigation of the Russia hoax, their media allies will do everything in their power to make sure that evidence never sees the light of day.

 

 

 

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Despite hours of breathless media coverage regarding President Trump’s 33-minute phone conversation with the leader of Ukraine last July, key facts and important issues are completely ignored by major news networks.

 

The Democrat-fueled fantasy is now causing renewed calls for impeachment, including Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi and more than 200 liberal lawmakers.

 

Claim: The President “promised” Ukraine financial or military aid in exchange for political dirt on former Vice President Joe Biden.

 

Fact: The official transcript reveals no promise was ever made during the entire conversation.

 

Claim: The President demanded Ukrainian officials work with Rudy Giuliani and the Attorney General to investigate Joe Biden.

 

Fact: Joe Biden’s name came-up TWICE -in the same paragraph- during a 33-minute conversation. Giuliani and Barr were mentioned in just one exchange.

 

“The other thing, There’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son,. that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great.

 

Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it… It sounds horrible to me,” said Trump during the call.

 

 


Really? Joe Biden is not being impeached, is Trump that is being impeach get it?

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as we speak the original whistle blower complaint is being viewed at by the House Intell, and Senate Intell. committees. Predictable how the Senate response will be I think.
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BY:  Amber Athey

 

Prior to releasing the transcript of his call with the Ukrainian president, President Donald Trump commented several times on the content of the transcript. Now that it’s out, how do these statements measure up?

 

The White House released the un-redacted transcript after Democrats pushed for impeachment against the president, claiming that he threatened to withhold aid from Ukraine until the country launched an investigation into former Vice President Joe Biden. Trump previously admitted that he asked for an investigation into Biden, but denied that he dangled military aid in a quid pro quo arrangement.

 

Here are the following public statements Trump made about the call, and whether or not they were confirmed by the transcript:

 

On Asking For Investigation Of Biden: The conversation I had was largely congratulatory. It was largely corruption—all of the corruption taking place. It was largely the fact that we don’t want our people, like Vice President Biden and his son, creating to [sic] the corruption already in the Ukraine.”

 

The transcript of the call confirms that Trump asked Ukranian President Volodymyr Zelensky multiple times to investigate why Biden pressured Ukraine into firing a prosecutor that was looking into his son’s business ties. Hunter Biden sat on the board of Burisma, a Ukrainian oil company, and was receiving $50,000 a month when the prosecutor was fired. Biden bragged about withholding a $1 billion loan from Ukraine until they agreed to oust the prosecutor, but Ukraine has previously said there isn’t evidence that he did so to protect the business paying his son.

 

Trump said on the call, “There’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it … It sounds horrible to me.”

 

The call also revealed that the situation was first brought up by Zelensky with his mention of Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani, who had previously traveled to Ukraine to look into Biden’s dealings.

“I will personally tell you that one of my assistants spoke with Mr. Giuliani just recently and we are hoping very much that Mr. Giuliani will be able to travel to Ukraine,” Zelensky said.

 

On A Quid Pro Quo Arrangement: “I did not make a statement that you have to do this or I won’t give you aid.”

 

Nowhere in the transcript does the president mention withholding hundreds of millions of dollars in military aid to Zelensky, and not in the context of investigating Biden. Early in the call, Trump does signal that the “United States has been very good to Ukraine” in terms of providing aid.

 

In what Democrats are citing as proof of a “quid pro quo” arrangement, Zelenksy brings up that the Ukraine would like to purchase more U.S. military equipment, and Trump responds by asking for an investigation into 2016 election meddling.

 

“We are ready to continue to cooperate for the next steps specifically we are almost ready to buy more Javelins from the United States for defense purposes,” Zelensky says.

 

Trump replies, “I would like you to do us a favor though,” and proceeds to ask Zelensky if he will investigate the private security firm Crowdstrike and other allegations that Ukraine may have been involved in election meddling. The “favor” does not appear to be connected to the Biden investigation as previously claimed.

 

On Withholding Military Aid From Ukraine:My complaint has always been, and I’d withhold again, and I will continue to withhold until such time as Europe and other nations contribute to Ukraine”

 

Trump claimed on Tuesday that he withheld military aid from Ukraine because he wanted to pressure other European countries into paying their fair share. During the call, the president did indeed bring up other countries’ lack of support for Ukraine in the context of U.S. aid.

 

“We spend a lot of effort and a lot of time,” Trump said. “Much more than the European countries are doing and they should be helping you more than they are. Germany does almost nothing for you.”

 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

 

Quid No Show!!

 

You guys are JUST TOO FUNNY!

 

 

 

 


You once again use a writer from a far right source, and that source has never told the full truthful story on anything, and does not this time. First you have to understand how Trump works to give an answer to the authors fairy tale which by the way is true on what was said part, but totally untrue to the subject. Trump has lived in and always operated his business as a mob with Trump as the Mob Boss. That means his lackeys do what they are told, cover for the leader, and take the fall. On big items it is usually broken down in to parts and you can have different lackeys working different parts. To get the total picture you have to put all parts together. By going this route the Mob Boss makes it harder for law enforcement to understand and prosecute what went on. That is what is going on with this. Anyone who expected the phone call to supply all the information to send the Mob Boss to jail knows little or understand little about the Mob.The phone call proved that Trump (Mob Boss) spoke to the U Pres. and asked the Bidens be looked at.  Now another part which Rudy handled will contain by my best reading the part about the Aid cut off and the Mob Boss interest in getting some help for 2020. Rudy knows  how to handle that as he at one time sent the Mob people, and Bosses to jail for the Feds. When people who know something about the total subject you then get an answer about the total subject, and there seems to be some of those type people working this case and that could be terrifying to the Mob. Boss. His enablers like Amber and her readers and believers are not part of that group as you all can see.

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Once again, what was released was an edited memo of the call from the WH...

not a complete unredacted transcript of the call...wasn’t that what trump said that he would provide?

I’ve also asked before, what precisely does “dimms” mean...not derogatory is it, I hope. 

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Despite hours of breathless media coverage regarding President Trump’s 33-minute phone conversation with the leader of Ukraine last July, key facts and important issues are completely ignored by major news networks.

 

The Democrat-fueled fantasy is now causing renewed calls for impeachment, including Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi and more than 200 liberal lawmakers.

 

Claim: The President “promised” Ukraine financial or military aid in exchange for political dirt on former Vice President Joe Biden.

 

Fact: The official transcript reveals no promise was ever made during the entire conversation.

 

Claim: The President demanded Ukrainian officials work with Rudy Giuliani and the Attorney General to investigate Joe Biden.

 

Fact: Joe Biden’s name came-up TWICE -in the same paragraph- during a 33-minute conversation. Giuliani and Barr were mentioned in just one exchange.

 

“The other thing, There’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son,. that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great.

 

Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it… It sounds horrible to me,” said Trump during the call.

 

 

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@Roxanna35 wrote:

@KidBoy2 wrote:
Jim posted..



It is difficult for me to believe that Trump folowers really believe that anything that has happened is ok and of no importance. Well, I guess that they will be  on egg on their face when the inquiries now are not going to be what they are accostumed to seeing and the small impct that they have have in the public. Things have changed big. and they don't underatand how much. The tools that they have now were not the same tools that they have before, and now they will use them all. 


TOO FUNNY @Roxanna35 ...

 

Please identify " the high crimes and misdemeanors" President Trump has committed.   Subonation of the Consitution by having a foreign power investigate a politcal figure.

 

Speaker Pelosi does not have enough votes to start Impeachment proceedings.  She will by the end of the day, the count stands as of now 214 needed 218

 

It's a repeat of the Mueller report... Nothing burger!  Really? the Democrats never engaged the tools that they had before, now it seems that they are doing just that

 

You folks really need to get over yourselves. I agree, you folks need to get over yourselves

 

I get it, you don't like him but you have no proof of any crime that rises to the level of impeachment.  Let it go and vote in 2020.  REally and who told you that?  Trump? or Juliani? 

 

 

 

 


 

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