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It’s also true Islamic radicals haven’t been as successful at targeting Americans lately because, after a highly effective day of carnage back in 2001, we became vigilant. The price has been high, in treasure, and sometimes in civil rights—another negative externality of Islamic terrorism.  Does Lemon demand a similar domestic effort aimed at white men for merely being white men?


**bleep**, that's funny.

 

It's not Lemon. It's YOUR SIDE that has been demanding that we have armed guards in schools, shopping malls and now synagogues.. You still cling to your gun fetishes and instead of supporting common sense gun control, you demand that we accommodate you by living like a third-world military dictatorship.

 

Seriously, is this performance art, too? Because your comment is so silly, I can't believe it comes from a rational human being.

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It’s also true Islamic radicals haven’t been as successful at targeting Americans lately because, after a highly effective day of carnage back in 2001, we became vigilant. The price has been high, in treasure, and sometimes in civil rights—another negative externality of Islamic terrorism.  Does Lemon demand a similar domestic effort aimed at white men for merely being white men?


So you admit the government targeted Muslims “merely for being Muslim?”

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It’s also true Islamic radicals haven’t been as successful at targeting Americans lately because, after a highly effective day of carnage back in 2001, we became vigilant. The price has been high, in treasure, and sometimes in civil rights—another negative externality of Islamic terrorism.  Does Lemon demand a similar domestic effort aimed at white men for merely being white men?

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The notion that a person’s race predisposes him to act violently is unequivocally racist. It’s also easily debunked by a cursory reading of history. Then again, in today’s environment, where identity politics often strips Americans of their accomplishments, ideas, and actions so they can be judged by their melanin, it’s an unsurprising thing to hear.

 

“I keep trying to point out to people and, not to demonize any one group or any one ethnicity,” CNN host Don Lemon explained to his colleague Chris Cuomo, before telling him that “the biggest terror threat in this country is white men,” adding that “there is no travel ban on them”

 

 

This isn’t a new accusation. Now, Lemon is right that the vast majority of white shooters are men. He’s also correct that men are more violent than women. The majority of men in the United States are white. So some quick back-of-the-envelope calculation informs us that most shooters are probably going to be white men, just as most murderers in Arab countries are Arab men and most murderers in Asian countries are Asian men and so on.

 

A terrorist is a person who uses illegal violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims. This is not a movement. These white men have no palpable ideological or philosophical connection. They are not part of a concerted effort. They do not idolize the same people or subscribe to the same set of ideas. They do not share a worldview. Most of them do not kill in the name of “whiteness.” Few of them have a coherent message. I have as much to do with the Pittsburgh shooter as Lemon does.

 

The left-winger who yelled “This is for health care” before attempting to assassinate Republican congressional leadership in 2017 — somehow Lemon overlooked this event in his rant about angry white men — has nothing to do with the man who yelled “All Jews must die” when killing 11 innocent people at the Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh. There is no nexus between the person threatening Republicans with ricin lettersand the person threatening Democrats with pipe bombs.

 

Whether travel bans from terror-ravaged nations are effective or necessary is a worthy debate. But unlike Islamic terrorists, who destabilize entire regions, enslave entire communities, and in engage in decades-long campaigns against civilians, white men only share a hue. There is no infrastructure to assist them in their murders. There is no nation-state egging them on and abetting their efforts around the world. There are no big-money donors funding them. There is no movement recruiting them to kill, then rewarding their families afterwards.

 

Moreover, there is no rational or decent person in America, on either side of the partisan debate, justifying their actions. No matter how hard Democrats try to smear half the country as a party of budding brown-shirts, there is no political base for their violent ideology.

 

Unlike Islamic terrorism—which is propelled by a set of ideas and beliefs that has been adopted by people of every color in every area of the world—random white shooters do not generate massive numbers of refugees whom other nations are compelled to deal with. Governments don’t have to spend trillions of dollars to protect their citizens from this constant threat.

 

It’s also true Islamic radicals haven’t been as successful at targeting Americans lately because, after a highly effective day of carnage back in 2001, we became vigilant. The price has been high, in treasure, and sometimes in civil rights—another negative externality of Islamic terrorism.  Does Lemon demand a similar domestic effort aimed at white men for merely being white men?

 

Radical Islam is an ideology that’s quite popular in the world. White supremacy is a fringe belief that generates outsized coverage because of the horrible actions of some individuals and the political upside some in the media see in giving them attention. Stringing together every act of random violence in the nation—no matter how ambiguous, disconnected, and muddled the political motives of the perpetrators might be—does not make a terror problem. Even if it did, violence is not the monopoly of any group. In the past century, genocides have been perpetrated in Europe, Africa, and Asia.

 

Some people feed off the idea of drumming people they find objectionable out of public discourse. I’m not sure someone who uses hyperbole in the heat of a national debate deserves this fate. But in an environment where people are (ostensibly) thrown off their TV shows for a dumb statement about Halloween costumes, it seems rather extraordinary that others can unambiguously refer to “white men” as terrorists without repercussion.

 

 

David Harsanyi is a Senior Editor at The Federalist.

 

http://thefederalist.com/2018/10/31/don-lemons-attack-on-white-men-isnt-merely-racist-its-incredibly...


I saw the  program in full on CNN your author is talking about and the author it not telling the truth. What Don was asking since most of all the attacks and crime are white men can people say they act violently the most of any group. The statement was not directed an either right or left but at all attacks. The author took that and changed what the question was  about. The author lied in his story. Now all can see how the far right works on their stories, and how we get Trump as President. Based on lies.

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A mass killer is different than a regular killer.  Most single homicides are driven by personal conflicts. Many are intimate partner violence. Others are child abuse. Others are crime related like gang on gang crime. 

 

But mass shooters? A completely different animal.  

 

Race is a social construct and the reason white men in particular are engaging in mass murder (and historically high rates of suicide, too, by the way) is social. Many American white men are born and raised to obtain social dominance. Dominant over other races. Dominant over women.  They feel if they work hard, they will get whatever they want. Great job, pretty wife, nice house, etc.  Additionally, they’ve been told the falsehood that those who “cannot” get those things can’t do so because they are lazy, criminal, or have some other moral flaw.  

 

But it’s increasingly difficult to attain that 50s “Father Knows Best” ideal.  Home ownership rates among whites have dropped. Many families can’t make it without two incomes.  The number of white people in prison has doubled since 1990.  The recent massive opiate addiction affected whites more than anyone else, although that’s evening out a bit now.

 

So many white men who can’t attain what they feel entitled to develop a sense of victimhood.  It’s everyone else’s fault. Muslims, Jews, blacks, immigrants, LGBTQ, women who don’t know their place, etc.  That’s why when the really sick ones lash out, they are lashing out at minorities. 

 

The writer is wrong. There is an ideology that unites them. White male dominance and the desperate fear of losing it.

 

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Some people feed off the idea of drumming people they find objectionable out of public discourse. ........@Jim.........This is true and is the reason I just started passing over this poster. Same ole same ole and no substance.
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Attack the black men and call them lazy, thieves and drug addicts/dealers. Attack the 'brown' men and call them "rapists and murderers".

 

But never, ever, point out anything bad about the white men.


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Some people feed off the idea of drumming people they find objectionable out of public discourse. I’m not sure someone who uses hyperbole in the heat of a national debate deserves this fate. But in an environment where people are (ostensibly) thrown off their TV shows for a dumb statement about Halloween costumes, it seems rather extraordinary that others can unambiguously refer to “white men” as terrorists without repercussion.

 

 

 

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Does anyone believe ANYTHING printed by Ben Domenech and THE FEDERALIST anymore?

 

After all, Domenech came up with this media outlet because he was caught PLAGIARIZING material from THE NEW YORKER, THE WASHINGTON POST, and THE NATIONAL REVIEW. He was basically shunned by the legitimate journalistic world at that point.

 

He is also well known for printing OP-EDS that rationalize CHILD MOLESTATION.

 

GOOD SOURCE!!!!!!!

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The notion that a person’s race predisposes him to act violently is unequivocally racist. It’s also easily debunked by a cursory reading of history. Then again, in today’s environment, where identity politics often strips Americans of their accomplishments, ideas, and actions so they can be judged by their melanin, it’s an unsurprising thing to hear.

 

“I keep trying to point out to people and, not to demonize any one group or any one ethnicity,” CNN host Don Lemon explained to his colleague Chris Cuomo, before telling him that “the biggest terror threat in this country is white men,” adding that “there is no travel ban on them”

 

 

This isn’t a new accusation. Now, Lemon is right that the vast majority of white shooters are men. He’s also correct that men are more violent than women. The majority of men in the United States are white. So some quick back-of-the-envelope calculation informs us that most shooters are probably going to be white men, just as most murderers in Arab countries are Arab men and most murderers in Asian countries are Asian men and so on.

 

A terrorist is a person who uses illegal violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims. This is not a movement. These white men have no palpable ideological or philosophical connection. They are not part of a concerted effort. They do not idolize the same people or subscribe to the same set of ideas. They do not share a worldview. Most of them do not kill in the name of “whiteness.” Few of them have a coherent message. I have as much to do with the Pittsburgh shooter as Lemon does.

 

The left-winger who yelled “This is for health care” before attempting to assassinate Republican congressional leadership in 2017 — somehow Lemon overlooked this event in his rant about angry white men — has nothing to do with the man who yelled “All Jews must die” when killing 11 innocent people at the Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh. There is no nexus between the person threatening Republicans with ricin lettersand the person threatening Democrats with pipe bombs.

 

Whether travel bans from terror-ravaged nations are effective or necessary is a worthy debate. But unlike Islamic terrorists, who destabilize entire regions, enslave entire communities, and in engage in decades-long campaigns against civilians, white men only share a hue. There is no infrastructure to assist them in their murders. There is no nation-state egging them on and abetting their efforts around the world. There are no big-money donors funding them. There is no movement recruiting them to kill, then rewarding their families afterwards.

 

Moreover, there is no rational or decent person in America, on either side of the partisan debate, justifying their actions. No matter how hard Democrats try to smear half the country as a party of budding brown-shirts, there is no political base for their violent ideology.

 

Unlike Islamic terrorism—which is propelled by a set of ideas and beliefs that has been adopted by people of every color in every area of the world—random white shooters do not generate massive numbers of refugees whom other nations are compelled to deal with. Governments don’t have to spend trillions of dollars to protect their citizens from this constant threat.

 

It’s also true Islamic radicals haven’t been as successful at targeting Americans lately because, after a highly effective day of carnage back in 2001, we became vigilant. The price has been high, in treasure, and sometimes in civil rights—another negative externality of Islamic terrorism.  Does Lemon demand a similar domestic effort aimed at white men for merely being white men?

 

Radical Islam is an ideology that’s quite popular in the world. White supremacy is a fringe belief that generates outsized coverage because of the horrible actions of some individuals and the political upside some in the media see in giving them attention. Stringing together every act of random violence in the nation—no matter how ambiguous, disconnected, and muddled the political motives of the perpetrators might be—does not make a terror problem. Even if it did, violence is not the monopoly of any group. In the past century, genocides have been perpetrated in Europe, Africa, and Asia.

 

Some people feed off the idea of drumming people they find objectionable out of public discourse. I’m not sure someone who uses hyperbole in the heat of a national debate deserves this fate. But in an environment where people are (ostensibly) thrown off their TV shows for a dumb statement about Halloween costumes, it seems rather extraordinary that others can unambiguously refer to “white men” as terrorists without repercussion.

 

 

David Harsanyi is a Senior Editor at The Federalist.

 

http://thefederalist.com/2018/10/31/don-lemons-attack-on-white-men-isnt-merely-racist-its-incredibly...

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