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Does AARP represent the Democratic Party or Seniors?

I just read how the Democrats have scored a big success as AARP is endorsing the Health Care Bill. If this is true, then this is the final straw for me. I am going to cancel my membership from this organization that is nothing but an extension of the Democratic Party. The Health Care Bill is one more step toward the Socialist state that the Obama administration and Democrats seem determined to implement. This is another $1.2 Trillion added to the debt. Part of the payment of this debt is to come out of Medicare that will of course effect all of us. The debt and higher taxes will then fall on our children, grandchildren and great grand children to service the debt. The annual cost of living increase on SS has been canceled by the Democrats. Where is the uproar from the AARP. You see the leadership of the AARP are big contributors to the Democratic Party and to Obama. The AARP obviously does not represent the interest of Seniors and puts their political affiliation with the Democrats infront of our interest. It does not matter if you are Republican, Democrat, liberal or conservative as we are all going to suffer equally while the AARP does nothing to represent us.

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HK8491 posted..

Paying down the debt only comes up when those same republicans want to cut Social Security, Medicare and the VA.

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When you posted that it shouted load and clear to were you get your information.
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@KidBoy2 wrote:
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Paying down the debt only comes up when those same republicans want to cut Social Security, Medicare and the VA.

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When you posted that it shouted load (sic) and clear to were you get your information.  Really?  What did you hear?

 


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Good Lord! Do some research. 

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Margaret, I have been involved with AARP on many levels since 1983, long before I became eligible to become a member. Now, I have been a member of AARP for more than twenty years and have been active in my local chapter. As any membership driven organization, AARP's policies as well as its positions on any issue are based on what their membership is concerned about. Obviously their national leaders are chosen at their convention and are voted on by the delegates, who are mostly members or officers of local chapters. Power in AARP, like any other organization flows up from the individual member to the local chapter and on to the national organization. 

 

I have been involved in the health insurance business since 1977 and have extensive experience with Medicare and Medicaid going back to 1973. Obviously the quality and access to health care has been a priority of AARP since its beginning. FYI AARP was founded by a group of retired teachers to address the issue of access to health care before Medicare was enacted. One of their first campaigns was to get the Medicare program enacted in 1965 and to protect Medicare from the congressional budget cutters. 

 

But since AARP members can join at age 50, many members of AARP are not eligible for Medicare. The health insurance market for those under age 65 is a mish mosh of private individual and employer plans with a myriad of regulations and laws, that are not only confusing but sometimes conflicting. i can tell you from experience that navigating this mess is like trying to blaze a trail through a jungle. 

 

But, for the most part, AARP holds pretty close to the political center. The organization often supports issues that will benefit its members. Although AARP doesn't endorse candidates for elected offices, they will publish the candidates positions on key issues affecting its membership. 

 

Whether AARP leans left or right depends on where one stands politically. Today it seems that the center is a lonely place with extremists on the far left and far right. On the left are those who want a completely "free" government run and funded health care system covering everyone and everything with no deductibles or copayments and paid for by taxation. On the right, they want to do away with all government sponsored health insurance plans and let everyone be on their own, "free" to choose what they want. 

 

Obviously neither is doable or workable. The left wing's idea would result in taxes so high that no one could afford it. The right wing's idea would leave many millions uninsured and only the wealthy would be insured. That would also be unacceptable as unworkable. 

 

If you go back to the original post, that is from eleven years ago when the ACA was being debated in congress. AARP was a strong supporter of the ACA or Obamacare, because it proposed a mostly private health insurance solution with increased government regulation ensuring fairness so everyone could get covered. It is far from perfect, but it is certainly much better than what existed previously. 

 

For a history of the ACA; it was originally a proposal from the conservative Heritage Foundation in 1989 as an alternative to the single payer proposals that were floated around then. The model for the ACA was actually passed in Massachusetts with bipartisan support and signed in to law by their Republican governor Mitt Romney in 2005 and became effective in 2006. 

 

For the most part Massachusetts residents were satisfied with their new system. On a visit to Cape Cod in 2013, I talked with many people there and they almost unanimously said that they liked their health insurance program and couldn't wonder why there was such rabid opposition to the ACA which was modeled after the Massachusetts program. 

 

Today, ten years after the ACA was signed into law by President Obama; it has become one of the most popular programs in the government. Polls consistently that most Americans like it, want to keep it and favor reforming it to make it work better. However for a decade congressional Republicans have been attempting and sometimes succeeding in undermining the ACA so that many key parts of it are not working as planned. There are several plans and ideas that could be enacted that would make the ACA work better and still offer almost universal coverage at a lower cost. But in the current political environment in Washington, that cannot happen. 

 

I could tell you what is needed to do to "fix" the ACA. But that is for another topic. Also I could tell you what is needed to get such ideas and proposals enacted. But, again, that is the subject for another topic. 

 

But there is an adage that when one is so far out in right field, everyone and everything is to the left. Also when one is so far out in left field, everyone and everything is to the right. But where things actually get done and where the votes are is in the center. 

 

I believe that the perception that AARP leans more to the Democratic party is because the Republican party has moved so far to the right while the center is way off to their left. Mitt Romney had to literally disown his "baby" when he ran for President in 2012. I used to be a Republican. I even voted for Reagan twice, but Ronald Reagan wouldn't recognize the Republican party of 2020. No doubt Abraham Lincoln, Ulysses Grant, Theodore Roosevelt, Dwight Eisenhower and George H W Bush wouldn't recognize the Republican party today and are rolling over in their graves along with Reagan. 

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Neither...it is abusing its power for own selfish wants...like $$$ for nothin'.



As they say, follow the money.  According to
AARP's 2008 Annual Report, they make almost three times the revenues
in product (including insurance) endorsements than they do in
membership fees.  The fact that Obamacare that they endorse will
kill the Medicare Advantage programs means that seniors will have to
switch to the Medigap programs that AARP sells. 
Can you see why Obama supporter Barry Rand is more than willing
to sell out AARP’s membership base? 
AARP now stands for the Association Against Retired People.


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I just read how the Democrats have scored a big success as AARP is endorsing the Health Care Bill. If this is true, then this is the final straw for me. I am going to cancel my membership from this organization that is nothing but an extension of the Democratic Party. The Health Care Bill is one more step toward the Socialist state that the Obama administration and Democrats seem determined to implement. This is another $1.2 Trillion added to the debt. Part of the payment of this debt is to come out of Medicare that will of course effect all of us. The debt and higher taxes will then fall on our children, grandchildren and great grand children to service the debt. The annual cost of living increase on SS has been canceled by the Democrats. Where is the uproar from the AARP. You see the leadership of the AARP are big contributors to the Democratic Party and to Obama. The AARP obviously does not represent the interest of Seniors and puts their political affiliation with the Democrats infront of our interest. It does not matter if you are Republican, Democrat, liberal or conservative as we are all going to suffer equally while the AARP does nothing to represent us.

Neither...it is abusing its power for own selfish wants...like $$$ for nothin'.

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I just read how the Democrats have scored a big success as AARP is endorsing the Health Care Bill. If this is true, then this is the final straw for me. I am going to cancel my membership from this organization that is nothing but an extension of the Democratic Party. The Health Care Bill is one more step toward the Socialist state that the Obama administration and Democrats seem determined to implement. This is another $1.2 Trillion added to the debt. Part of the payment of this debt is to come out of Medicare that will of course effect all of us. The debt and higher taxes will then fall on our children, grandchildren and great grand children to service the debt. The annual cost of living increase on SS has been canceled by the Democrats. Where is the uproar from the AARP. You see the leadership of the AARP are big contributors to the Democratic Party and to Obama. The AARP obviously does not represent the interest of Seniors and puts their political affiliation with the Democrats infront of our interest. It does not matter if you are Republican, Democrat, liberal or conservative as we are all going to suffer equally while the AARP does nothing to represent us.

AARP is backing liberal progressives, not even Democrats... although at this point in history it is hard to tell them apart.  AARP should be ashamed of the way they have betrayed their seniors who look to them for guidance on these important issues.  AARP's members should join in a class action lawsuit for breach of fiduciary duty, its a stretch but a creative lawyer could get it done.

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I just read how the Democrats have scored a big success as AARP is endorsing the Health Care Bill. If this is true, then this is the final straw for me. I am going to cancel my membership from this organization that is nothing but an extension of the Democratic Party. The Health Care Bill is one more step toward the Socialist state that the Obama administration and Democrats seem determined to implement. This is another $1.2 Trillion added to the debt. Part of the payment of this debt is to come out of Medicare that will of course effect all of us. The debt and higher taxes will then fall on our children, grandchildren and great grand children to service the debt. The annual cost of living increase on SS has been canceled by the Democrats. Where is the uproar from the AARP. You see the leadership of the AARP are big contributors to the Democratic Party and to Obama. The AARP obviously does not represent the interest of Seniors and puts their political affiliation with the Democrats infront of our interest. It does not matter if you are Republican, Democrat, liberal or conservative as we are all going to suffer equally while the AARP does nothing to represent us.

It sounds like you're worried about your children and grandchildren. So am I.  


 


The Democrats didn't "cancel" the Social Security COLA increase. It's the same law that was passed in 1975, indexing increases to inflation.  No inflation, no COLA. There's a proposal being discussed to make a special payment of $250 next year.  Our children (many of whom had already lost their jobs or had salaries frozen when this year's COLA of 5.8% was paid) might wonder who'd going to pay for this.


 


The House bill doesn't solve all the problems of Medicare, but it does push back the insolvency date by 5 years (from 2017 to 2022), mostly by reducing overpayments to insurers under Medicare Advantage. Without this change, our children might wonder why they won't collect a dime from a system they've paid into so that today's seniors can have added benefits from a system (Medicare Advantage) they never paid into. 


 


AARP's primary objective should be to preserve the quality and solvency of the Medicare system for our children and grandchildren, and that's exactly what they're doing. 

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I just read how the Democrats have scored a big success as AARP is endorsing the Health Care Bill. If this is true, then this is the final straw for me. I am going to cancel my membership from this organization that is nothing but an extension of the Democratic Party. The Health Care Bill is one more step toward the Socialist state that the Obama administration and Democrats seem determined to implement. This is another $1.2 Trillion added to the debt. Part of the payment of this debt is to come out of Medicare that will of course effect all of us. The debt and higher taxes will then fall on our children, grandchildren and great grand children to service the debt. The annual cost of living increase on SS has been canceled by the Democrats. Where is the uproar from the AARP. You see the leadership of the AARP are big contributors to the Democratic Party and to Obama. The AARP obviously does not represent the interest of Seniors and puts their political affiliation with the Democrats infront of our interest. It does not matter if you are Republican, Democrat, liberal or conservative as we are all going to suffer equally while the AARP does nothing to represent us.



I've posted all along that AARP has sold out its
members in exchange for a sweetheart behind closed doors deal with the
Administration, just like the AMA and the pharmaceutical companies
did.  (For example, Obamacare guts the
MediCare Advantage program, whoch means many will turn to the MediGap
programs like AARP promotes under their logo.) 
Their CEO, Barry Rand, is a big Obama supporter (maxed out the
amount of legal campaign contributions) and that the AARP is earning
almost three times as much in revenues from its affiliated/endorsed
products (lead by insurance product – just look at the last AARP
magazine you got to see how many ads there are) than they do on
membership dues, so they are going where their money is and not where
their membership wants them to go.  They
also are counting on the fact that most of their members have no clue
about these forums or other sources of information that reveal this
sell out.  If the AARP name is on it, it
has to be trusted, right?


The American seniors Association is one of
AARP’s competitors, check them out.



 


I’ve asked AARP to reveal the post-July
membership stats, because they appear to have lost a lot of members.
I’m out of here once mine expires.



 


AARP = Association Against Retired People.


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This farce of a board is not the AARP. This is the democrat cult trying to influence the elderly. I don't agree with every stance of AARP but they do a few good things for seniors!

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I just read how the Democrats have scored a big success as AARP is endorsing the Health Care Bill. If this is true, then this is the final straw for me. I am going to cancel my membership from this organization that is nothing but an extension of the Democratic Party. The Health Care Bill is one more step toward the Socialist state that the Obama administration and Democrats seem determined to implement. This is another $1.2 Trillion added to the debt. Part of the payment of this debt is to come out of Medicare that will of course effect all of us. The debt and higher taxes will then fall on our children, grandchildren and great grand children to service the debt. The annual cost of living increase on SS has been canceled by the Democrats. Where is the uproar from the AARP. You see the leadership of the AARP are big contributors to the Democratic Party and to Obama. The AARP obviously does not represent the interest of Seniors and puts their political affiliation with the Democrats infront of our interest. It does not matter if you are Republican, Democrat, liberal or conservative as we are all going to suffer equally while the AARP does nothing to represent us.

Sorry I didn't see your post - I just posted a new topic, indicating the AARP endorsement might be published tomorrow.

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This is exactly why I turned my back on AARP at 49 years old and my 78 year old dad told me he was leaving AARP. I am on AARP's site now looking to see if they have changed.

 

Any advice from current members would be appreciated.

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@BryanZ774318 wrote:

This is exactly why I turned my back on AARP at 49 years old and my 78 year old dad told me he was leaving AARP. I am on AARP's site now looking to see if they have changed.

 

Any advice from current members would be appreciated.


AARP has done a great job of seeing that the programs which help Seniors are still here so they have not changed as that is why they were formed. My advice to you is learn about the programs AARP supports for your dad and you. You do realize that the far right Reb. would kill these programs tomorrow, and have opposed them when they were founded.

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I just read how the Democrats have scored a big success as AARP is endorsing the Health Care Bill. If this is true, then this is the final straw for me. I am going to cancel my membership from this organization that is nothing but an extension of the Democratic Party. The Health Care Bill is one more step toward the Socialist state that the Obama administration and Democrats seem determined to implement. This is another $1.2 Trillion added to the debt. Part of the payment of this debt is to come out of Medicare that will of course effect all of us. The debt and higher taxes will then fall on our children, grandchildren and great grand children to service the debt. The annual cost of living increase on SS has been canceled by the Democrats. Where is the uproar from the AARP. You see the leadership of the AARP are big contributors to the Democratic Party and to Obama. The AARP obviously does not represent the interest of Seniors and puts their political affiliation with the Democrats infront of our interest. It does not matter if you are Republican, Democrat, liberal or conservative as we are all going to suffer equally while the AARP does nothing to represent us.

I agree.  I'm not a senior citizen though.  I'm 36 but I came here in late August after the way the townhall meetings where AARP representatives talked down to their members.  All this time AARP claimed not to have endorsed any of these health care bills, but secretly, and behind the backs of its members did just that.  It is sickening that an organization that was founded on good intentions has sunken to the same level that the Congress has.

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Just like the Democrat Party does. I am sick of being addressed as if I am either a small child or some Retarded person. The arrogant elitist assumption that "they" know better than me, is sickening, and I believe it is actually covering up CRIMINAL behavior.
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I just read how the Democrats have scored a big success as AARP is endorsing the Health Care Bill. If this is true, then this is the final straw for me. I am going to cancel my membership from this organization that is nothing but an extension of the Democratic Party. The Health Care Bill is one more step toward the Socialist state that the Obama administration and Democrats seem determined to implement. This is another $1.2 Trillion added to the debt. Part of the payment of this debt is to come out of Medicare that will of course effect all of us. The debt and higher taxes will then fall on our children, grandchildren and great grand children to service the debt. The annual cost of living increase on SS has been canceled by the Democrats. Where is the uproar from the AARP. You see the leadership of the AARP are big contributors to the Democratic Party and to Obama. The AARP obviously does not represent the interest of Seniors and puts their political affiliation with the Democrats infront of our interest. It does not matter if you are Republican, Democrat, liberal or conservative as we are all going to suffer equally while the AARP does nothing to represent us.

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