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Does AARP represent the Democratic Party or Seniors?

I just read how the Democrats have scored a big success as AARP is endorsing the Health Care Bill. If this is true, then this is the final straw for me. I am going to cancel my membership from this organization that is nothing but an extension of the Democratic Party. The Health Care Bill is one more step toward the Socialist state that the Obama administration and Democrats seem determined to implement. This is another $1.2 Trillion added to the debt. Part of the payment of this debt is to come out of Medicare that will of course effect all of us. The debt and higher taxes will then fall on our children, grandchildren and great grand children to service the debt. The annual cost of living increase on SS has been canceled by the Democrats. Where is the uproar from the AARP. You see the leadership of the AARP are big contributors to the Democratic Party and to Obama. The AARP obviously does not represent the interest of Seniors and puts their political affiliation with the Democrats infront of our interest. It does not matter if you are Republican, Democrat, liberal or conservative as we are all going to suffer equally while the AARP does nothing to represent us.

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ManicProgressive posted..

Right. What republican policies help seniors?

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They are the party of business.....private sector JOBS.

The Democrat Socialist Party is the party of more government control and is known as the party that is for something for nothing.

AARP, like your party is after more "things" without thinking how or who will pay for it.
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ManicProgressive posted..

Right. What republican policies help seniors?

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They are the party of business.....private sector JOBS.

The Democrat Socialist Party is the party of more government control and is known as the party that is for something for nothing.

AARP, like your party is after more "things" without thinking how or who will pay for it.

Tell us what Trump has paid for since becoming President. The National Debt is higher and we are heading in to what could be a depression worse than 1929. This is Trumps record so far. Now tell us how you  and we will pay for all of this.

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ManicProgressive posted..

Right. What republican policies help seniors?

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They are the party of business.....private sector JOBS.  Your soundbite didn't address the question you quoted.  Jobs are not unique to seniors.  In fact, the majority have retired.

The Democrat Socialist Party is the party of more government control and is known as the party that is for something for nothing.  Only by the extremists in the opposing party.  Most view the Dems as the party that has created and supported seniors for decades, social security, Medicare, Medicaid, Civil Rights, equal pay, etc.   To extremists on the Right, these are socialist policies. 

AARP, like your party is after more "things" without thinking how or who will pay for it.  LMAO!  AARP knows who will pay for it, those who use it and buy healthcare supplements, movie tickets, lower cell phone bills, etc.  If you don't like their services, terminate your membership.  You seem to enjoy spreading propaganda/your biased views using their free website.  Sounds like more of the usual hypocrisy.  No?


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ManicProgressive posted..

Right. What republican policies help seniors?

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They are the party of business.....private sector JOBS.  Your soundbite didn't address the question you quoted.  Jobs are not unique to seniors.  In fact, the majority have retired.

The Democrat Socialist Party is the party of more government control and is known as the party that is for something for nothing.  Only by the extremists in the opposing party.  Most view the Dems as the party that has created and supported seniors for decades, social security, Medicare, Medicaid, Civil Rights, equal pay, etc.   To extremists on the Right, these are socialist policies. 

AARP, like your party is after more "things" without thinking how or who will pay for it.  LMAO!  AARP knows who will pay for it, those who use it and buy healthcare supplements, movie tickets, lower cell phone bills, etc.  If you don't like their services, terminate your membership.  You seem to enjoy spreading propaganda/your biased views using their free website.  Sounds like more of the usual hypocrisy.  No?


Centrist beat me to it.   My question was genuine.   Seniors need advocates who will lobby to protect Medicare and Social Security (both socialist programs).  Veteran seniors need advocates who will lobby to protect and improve the VA health benefits (also a socialist program).  

 

Seniors are a fragile group.  Without Social Security, about 40% would be living in poverty.   Liberal policies are designed to provide social safety nets for individuals who can't provide for themselves, and the programs I've named are some of biggest programs we have. 

 

You as an individual senior may not need any of this.  That does not negate the need to advocate for the policies that help the majority of seniors.  Which is what AARP does.   

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ManicProgressive posted..

Right. What republican policies help seniors?

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They are the party of business.....private sector JOBS.

The Democrat Socialist Party is the party of more government control and is known as the party that is for something for nothing.

AARP, like your party is after more "things" without thinking how or who will pay for it

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Know you post this..

Centrist beat me to it. My question was genuine. Seniors need advocates who will lobby to protect Medicare and Social Security (both socialist programs). Veteran seniors need advocates who will lobby to protect and improve the VA health benefits (also a socialist program).



Seniors are a fragile group. Without Social Security, about 40% would be living in poverty. Liberal policies are designed to provide social safety nets for individuals who can't provide for themselves, and the programs I've named are some of biggest programs we have.



You as an individual senior may not need any of this. That does not negate the need to advocate for the policies that help the majority of seniors. Which is what AARP does.


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Spin!

You asked a question and I answered it and then you go into a rant that has nothing to do with your question and my answer to it!!



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@KidBoy2 wrote:
ManicProgressive posted..

Right. What republican policies help seniors?

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They are the party of business.....private sector JOBS.

The Democrat Socialist Party is the party of more government control and is known as the party that is for something for nothing.

AARP, like your party is after more "things" without thinking how or who will pay for it

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Know you post this..

Centrist beat me to it. My question was genuine. Seniors need advocates who will lobby to protect Medicare and Social Security (both socialist programs). Veteran seniors need advocates who will lobby to protect and improve the VA health benefits (also a socialist program).



Seniors are a fragile group. Without Social Security, about 40% would be living in poverty. Liberal policies are designed to provide social safety nets for individuals who can't provide for themselves, and the programs I've named are some of biggest programs we have.



You as an individual senior may not need any of this. That does not negate the need to advocate for the policies that help the majority of seniors. Which is what AARP does.


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Spin!

You asked a question and I answered it and then you go into a rant that has nothing to do with your question and my answer to it!!




I elaborated on what Centrist posted.  Jobs are NOT a senior's typical top priority.  

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You said that Manic was ranting?

Wow, that was one of the most polite and eloquent rants I have ever seen or read!

Plus, she answered the question. 

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My gosh, this seems to be the "zombie thread" that never dies. I aam reading the same tired old posts from the same people that were on this thread eleven years ago. Times change, but apparently some people never change. 

 

I have a long history with AARP going back to 1983 when I was a sales manager of a field office for a large insurance company in Asheville North Carolina. The company had the contract for AARP's Medicare supplement insurance plans. Although local field offices, agents and managers were forbidden to sell or service any of the AARP business, my agents were getting calls from AARP customers about their coverage and I was also receiving many calls from the community as well. 

 

I was instructed by the company to refer all callers to the toll free 800 number that was in an administrative office in the Philadelphia area. Most of the people calling my office and the agents were saying that they couldn't get a hold of anyone there and the people didn't seem to understand the questions or problems. My company did not have any Medicare supplement for agents to sell and all agents were captive and forbidden to broker any business with other companies. In fact I was to fire any agent who was brokering Medicare supplement plans. 

 

I contacted AARP and let them know of what was happening. Western North Carolina then as well as now is a good place for people to retire and in the 1980s retirement communities were springing up all over the regioni. AARP was only so happy to give me the information so I could help the customers and explain the coverage and claims procedures. They sent me lots of information and I soon got to know a lot about Medicare supplements and Medicare. 

 

Although we couldn't sell or make any commissions off Medicare supplements; this offered me as well as my agents an opportunity to get in front of audiences of retirees and I was a regular speaker at local AARP chapter meetings. AARP representaitves were there to make sure that I didn't go "off script" and engage in selling competing products. But when I spoke, the local agent was also present and I made sure to introduce him to the audience. 

 

It was a perfect "win win" situation. AARP was very pleased at how I presented myself and didn't offer any competition as well as being informative and honest. My agents also received several requests from AARP members in attendance about the life and annuity products that they had to offer. As a result they got several referrals and much new business. 

 

I was only a 34 year old manager then, but I did keep in touch with AARP throughout my career and always would recommend their Medicare supplement plans. Since then I have been working with local AARP chapters. Then I got old enough to actually become a member of AARP. That was more than twenty years ago. 

 

AARP is a member drive organization. The national officers are elected at their convention which any AARP member can attend and AARP members can vote for officers. However most local delegates at the convention gather proxies from their members to cast their votes. If anyone wishes to have a voice in AARP as to how they are run and their position, all they need to do is to become active in a local chapter and speak up. 

 

Like any organization, it is a few members who are the most active and do the most work for the group. So perhaps their viewpoints may be reflected more than others. But I doubt that any one member or group of officers would impse their own political beliefs on the group. Like any other organization that is an activist group, the most active members as well as officers tend to be more educated and involved in other things besides AARP than many other members. After all AARP was founded by a retired teacher, so no surprise here; lots of the most active members locally are retired teachers and educators. 

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Does AARP represent the Democratic Party or Seniors

lk152 posted..

My gosh, this seems to be the "zombie thread" that never dies. I aam reading the same tired old posts from the same people that were on this thread eleven years ago. Times change, but apparently some people never change.


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Yes, some people never change..I agree.
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I absolutely would love to know if AARP leans left. 

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Yes Margaret, AARP leans LEFT. There are good people on both sides of the spectrum, BUT It's become a crime to be Republican anymore, Not sure why. I've been BOTH and only now do I get CONDEMNED for admitting that. Dems seem to DEMAND that I think, do and say only what they WANT me to think, do and say. It's gotten scary, we NO LONGER have freedom of speech. My Democrat friends no longer are friendly, they have become DEMANDING that I cave to their RULE! Turning republican more and more by the day!
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Margaret,

 

As with everything, it depends on what is YOUR definition of what is "left" and what is "right".  Do you consider social security and Medicare to be "left"?

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@sp362 

 

 

As with everything, it depends on what is YOUR definition of what is "left" and what is "right".  Do you consider social security and Medicare to be "left"?

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That sounds like a question from the White-house press corp. ... you know, a gotcha question. Are you taking polls for politico or CNN?

 

Do you support the burning of businesses and the destruction of private property? See how that works? 

 

Straw man argument, but nice try.

 

 


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I Said Democratic party, pretty much sums it up. I consider Social Security & Medicare "my" money I paid in for when I am older. So let me put it this way. Has AARP endorsed anything for the democratic party?

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Fishslayer,

 

Sorry, but if your definition of "leftist" is anything to the left of a far right extremist stance, then the question is valid and is not a straw man gotcha question. 

 

Read lk's reply, it addresses that very issue.

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MargaretS40115 posted..

I absolutely would love to know if AARP leans left

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I say they do. They are for almost all things that give money to people that are retired and members of AARP. The problem is they do not seem to know or care how these "things" will be paid for.

AARP also sells insurance products were they make money so follow the money.

Many good things about AARP but they tend to be on the left.
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Does AARP represent the Democratic Party or Seniors

lk152 posted..

My gosh, this seems to be the "zombie thread" that never dies. I aam reading the same tired old posts from the same people that were on this thread eleven years ago. Times change, but apparently some people never change.


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Yes, some people never change..I agree.

Yep, even when they are shown the facts and the errors of their ways....some still believe their propaganda network and their leader who has lied over 18,000 documented times in the last 3 years...INCREDIBLE!  I agree!


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@lk152 wrote:

My gosh, this seems to be the "zombie thread" that never dies... Yeah, you do have to sever it's head.........After all AARP was founded by a retired teacher, so no surprise here; lots of the most active members locally are retired teachers and educators. 

 

Great response, IK152, always enjoy your informative topics and posts.... 

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Someone posted on this thread several years ago and said something that made a lot of sense. Essentially the post was that AARP is a member driven orgainzation where their positions reflect the beliefs and opinions of a majority of their memebers. AARP has a long history of activism for the benefits of retired people and seniors. In fact they took the lead in advocating for health care reform and made affodable Medicare supplement insurance available to the masses.

 

Previously, Medicare supplements were expensive with underwriting requirements. Many seniors just couldn't afford them. Then, many insurance companies were not the most reputable either. By giving their endorsement to a particular company's policies, AARP served as the marketing arm for that insurance company and being able to get a good quality Medicare supplement plan was a boost for AARP's membership aswell since one has to be a member of AARP to purchase their Medicare supplement. 

 

Now days agents and brokers are permitted to sell and service AARP's Medicare supplement plans. I can proudly say that I am authorized to offer their Medicare supplenment plans, and slthough I offer other companies plans, most of my Medicare supplement plans are the AARP plan. 

 

That said, as far as AARP being "biased" toward the Democratic party; I believe that it is that the Democratic party has aligned their policies and paltform to be more in tune with AAPR's than AARP algning with the Democratic party. Don't forget that AARP has lots of members over the age of 50 and it is older voters who vote in the greatest percentages of eligible voters. IMHO, it is just smart politics for a political party or candidate to align with a group like AARP that represents the interests of such a large bloc of voters. 

 

I noticed that all this criticism of AARP aligning with the Democratic party only goes back about fifteen years when the Bush administration attempted to cut social security benefits. Then it seemed that the entire Republican party went off the rails. AARP had always advocated health care reform and it was a msjority of their members who supported the ACA or Obamacare. Meanwhile the Republican party was strongly opposed to the ACA, but they refused to even work with Democrats on crafting a bill. 

 

The Republican party kept saying that they had a plan of their own that would be better, more afforable and cover more people. But when they had their chance to enact it; the Republican plan was nothing but smoke and mirrors. Rather than AARP adjusting their positions; how about the Republican party aligning their policies more with real people instead of their wealthy conservative donors. 

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IK152- I can't argue about previous Dem or Repub donors, but you seem to be forgetting one thing. TRUMP didn't take money from wealthy donors, said he didn't want to OWE anyone! AND he hasn't taken a single penny of his salary since he's been in office, neither have Ivanka or Jered. AND he's the only Pres that put in PROTECTION from other govt groups "borrowing" from medicare and social security. That's happened so often in the past, both are in peril. I can't say I'm Dem or Rep cause I've always voted for the individuals, NEVER the party. My ballots frequently have votes all across the party spectrum. Just can't say I like the way the Dem Govs put their citizens under house-arrest (yes, I'm one of them) and Dem mayors allowed their cities to burn or be taken over (one again). Not exactly a promo for the party.
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DNJS said I can't argue about previous Dem or Repub donors, but you seem to be forgetting one thing. TRUMP didn't take money from wealthy donors, said he didn't want to OWE anyone! AND he hasn't taken a single penny of his salary since he's been in office, 

 

He made that statement during the primaries and ran that on a shoestring.  The list below shows the top donors to Trump's actual presidential campaign. I agree that Inherited Wealth Trump did not take a dime of his presidential salary but he has spent more money on his weekly vacations to Florida each year than Obama did during his entire presidency.  Frankly, I think he should be taxed on that as income. 

 

 

 

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/033116/top-10-corporate-contributors-trump-campaign.... 

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Richva- According to a site (I assume is run by anti-Trumpers, due to the commentary being so negative on Trump) Trump has played golf 119 times since taking office. According to the same site, Obama played golf 161 times (322 total for 8 years) in comparison.  Also, there are reports that at times Obama had to use a 747 to make his golf trips because he brought along TOOO many people to fit them in Air Force One.  Helps to get the facts BEFORE you spout fake news. (PS, I'm not in love with Trump, just feel people should know the TRUTH... that's what's MOST important!) Vote YOUR opinion, NOT someone else's!

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dnjs wrote:"Richva- According to a site (I assume is run by anti-Trumpers, due to the commentary being so negative on Trump) Trump has played golf 119 times since taking office. According to the same site, Obama played golf 161 times (322 total for 8 years) in comparison. Also, there are reports that at times Obama had to use a 747 to make his golf trips because he brought along TOOO many people to fit them in Air Force One. Helps to get the facts BEFORE you spout fake news. (PS, I'm not in love with Trump, just feel people should know the TRUTH... that's what's MOST important!) Vote YOUR opinion, NOT someone else's!"

 

My reply:

Obama actually played golf 113 times during his first term.  (The number you found is simply dividing his total number in half and is not using an apples to apples comparison, i.e. the number of days in office.

On a day by day basis, Trump is spending more time on the golf course than Obama did per days in office.

 

You will need to attach a link to a report about using 747s used by Obama (Air Force One is a 747) since there are numerous inaccurate memes circulating about Obama's trips.

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ManicProgressive posted..


I elaborated on what Centrist posted. Jobs are NOT a senior's typical top priority.

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Centrist..OK.

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I elaborated on what Centrist posted. Jobs are NOT a senior's typical top priority.

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Centrist..OK.


Oh thank you then you agree now.


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Of course they are. They would like to see their family members succeed in life.

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lol

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@KidBoy2 wrote:
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I elaborated on what Centrist posted. Jobs are NOT a senior's typical top priority.

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Centrist..OK.

Interesting....it is a wonder the far-right can't articulate how the GOP advocates or benefits seniors!  At all! 

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Same immature negative droning message posted by the same chronically outraged liberal people.

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