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Do Liberals Worry about Trump Becoming a Martyr?

When Obama was president, I worried that he would be assassinated by someone that liberals associate with conservatives, e.g., KKK. I worried because, as a martyr, Obama would achieve more liberal goals than he did alive. Also, there would be riots, and I would be forced to listen to eulogies and Candle in the Wind crap 24/7 by the liberal media. That fantasy was my nightmare. There is no doubt in my mind that, had Obama been assassinated, America would now be a socialist state, probably with Joe Biden or Bernie Sanders as president. When Obama's presidency ended with him alive, I felt like I had dodged a bullet.

 

I'm wondering whether any liberals have similar thoughts about Trump. Do they worry that Trump might be assassinated by antifa? Do they imagine the antifa assassin to be a non-white, transgender, illegal immigrant?  I'm guessing liberals don't worry about conservatives rioting or the media giving 24/7 Trump eulogies. But, how about a Trump Memorial Wall between US and Mexico?  And, some sympathy votes in elections and bills in Congress? Poof, there goes ObamaCare, gay marriage, and abortions, all because Trump is a martyr.

 

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I am not sure to what Trump would be a martyr.  Perhaps too many air miles flying to his weekly, taxpayer paid, vacation?

 

Too much stress from all the porn stars suing him?

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A bit ago, I mentioned it would not be a good thing to turn 'the donald' into a martyr.  I have no idea if that precipitated this topic.  It really doesn't matter. 

 

This seems to be the usual distortion coming from the RRRR, in order to peddle propaganda.  Got to have a lead in....let's start with an authoratative definition of 'martyr'.  The definition furnished is less than complete.  [I'd suppose that's done with intent to direct the matter where it best suits a purpose.  But that's an opinion based on previous actions and not necessarily the case here.  Just to be 'fair' don't you see?]

 

Anyway.....Webster's ...the New Universal Unabridged version.

 

martyr.  n. 1. one who willingly suffers death rather than renounce his religion.  2.  one who is put to death or endures great suffering on behalf of any belief, principle, or cause:  a martyr to the cause of social justice.  3.  one who undergoes severe or constant suffering:  a martyr to severe headaches.  4.  a person who seeks sympathy or attention by pretending to or exaggerating pain, deprivation, etc.  5.  to put to death as a martyr.  6.  to make a martyr of.  7. to torment or torture.  

 

See?  There are a lot more ways to be a martyr than get to get shot by a disgruntled activist...an unhinged one at that.  

 

Martyrdom is as seen by adherents mostly.  A martyr's opponents are likely to think the 'martyr'got only his/her just deserts.  It's better not to create martyrs if it can be avoided.  That way divisions can be healed.  Otherwise....well, sometimes people simply don't behave rationally.  The last time that happened we got 'the donald'.  A lot who viewed him as a 'savior' then will view him as a martyr once he's gone.  A rational person might say it's justice being done at long last.  But then, we aren't really dealing with rational people here as demonstrated in this topic.

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A bit ago, I mentioned it would not be a good thing to turn 'the donald' into a martyr.  I have no idea if that precipitated this topic.  It really doesn't matter. 

 

This seems to be the usual distortion coming from the RRRR, in order to peddle propaganda.  Got to have a lead in....let's start with an authoratative definition of 'martyr'.  The definition furnished is less than complete.  [I'd suppose that's done with intent to direct the matter where it best suits a purpose.  But that's an opinion based on previous actions and not necessarily the case here.  Just to be 'fair' don't you see?]

 

Anyway.....Webster's ...the New Universal Unabridged version.

 

martyr.  n. 1. one who willingly suffers death rather than renounce his religion.  2.  one who is put to death or endures great suffering on behalf of any belief, principle, or cause:  a martyr to the cause of social justice.  3.  one who undergoes severe or constant suffering:  a martyr to severe headaches.  4.  a person who seeks sympathy or attention by pretending to or exaggerating pain, deprivation, etc.  5.  to put to death as a martyr.  6.  to make a martyr of.  7. to torment or torture.  

 

See?  There are a lot more ways to be a martyr than get to get shot by a disgruntled activist...an unhinged one at that.  

 

Martyrdom is as seen by adherents mostly.  A martyr's opponents are likely to think the 'martyr'got only his/her just deserts.  It's better not to create martyrs if it can be avoided.  That way divisions can be healed.  Otherwise....well, sometimes people simply don't behave rationally.  The last time that happened we got 'the donald'.  A lot who viewed him as a 'savior' then will view him as a martyr once he's gone.  A rational person might say it's justice being done at long last.  But then, we aren't really dealing with rational people here as demonstrated in this topic.


The correct answer is, "The liberals here do not worry about Trump becoming a martyr in any existing or hallucinated sense of the word 'martyr'."  Ignorance is bliss.

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@aruzinsky wrote:

@umbarch64 wrote:

A bit ago, I mentioned it would not be a good thing to turn 'the donald' into a martyr.  I have no idea if that precipitated this topic.  It really doesn't matter. 

 

This seems to be the usual distortion coming from the RRRR, in order to peddle propaganda.  Got to have a lead in....let's start with an authoratative definition of 'martyr'.  The definition furnished is less than complete.  [I'd suppose that's done with intent to direct the matter where it best suits a purpose.  But that's an opinion based on previous actions and not necessarily the case here.  Just to be 'fair' don't you see?]

 

Anyway.....Webster's ...the New Universal Unabridged version.

 

martyr.  n. 1. one who willingly suffers death rather than renounce his religion.  2.  one who is put to death or endures great suffering on behalf of any belief, principle, or cause:  a martyr to the cause of social justice.  3.  one who undergoes severe or constant suffering:  a martyr to severe headaches.  4.  a person who seeks sympathy or attention by pretending to or exaggerating pain, deprivation, etc.  5.  to put to death as a martyr.  6.  to make a martyr of.  7. to torment or torture.  

 

See?  There are a lot more ways to be a martyr than get to get shot by a disgruntled activist...an unhinged one at that.  

 

Martyrdom is as seen by adherents mostly.  A martyr's opponents are likely to think the 'martyr'got only his/her just deserts.  It's better not to create martyrs if it can be avoided.  That way divisions can be healed.  Otherwise....well, sometimes people simply don't behave rationally.  The last time that happened we got 'the donald'.  A lot who viewed him as a 'savior' then will view him as a martyr once he's gone.  A rational person might say it's justice being done at long last.  But then, we aren't really dealing with rational people here as demonstrated in this topic.


The correct answer is, "The liberals here do not worry about Trump becoming a martyr in any existing or hallucinated sense of the word 'martyr'."  Ignorance is bliss.


Plus it is really, really, tough for a snowflake of that proportions to be considered for martyrdom.  Maybe if he set fire to himself on the WH lawn?

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When Obama was president, I worried that he would be assassinated by someone that liberals associate with conservatives, e.g., KKK. I worried because, as a martyr, Obama would achieve more liberal goals than he did alive. Also, there would be riots, and I would be forced to listen to eulogies and Candle in the Wind crap 24/7 by the liberal media. That fantasy was my nightmare. There is no doubt in my mind that, had Obama been assassinated, America would now be a socialist state, probably with Joe Biden or Bernie Sanders as president. When Obama's presidency ended with him alive, I felt like I had dodged a bullet.

 

I'm wondering whether any liberals have similar thoughts about Trump. Do they worry that Trump might be assassinated by antifa? Do they imagine the antifa assassin to be a non-white, transgender, illegal immigrant?  I'm guessing liberals don't worry about conservatives rioting or the media giving 24/7 Trump eulogies. But, how about a Trump Memorial Wall between US and Mexico?  And, some sympathy votes in elections and bills in Congress? Poof, there goes ObamaCare, gay marriage, and abortions, all because Trump is a martyr.

 

WhatMeWorryTrump.jpg 


No I Dont Worry About Martyrdom - I worry about him becoming King

 

Mostly Because the US Congress is comprised of Gutless Disloyal Traitorist Anti-constitutionalists................

 

 

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@aruzinsky wrote:

When Obama was president, I worried that he would be assassinated by someone that liberals associate with conservatives, e.g., KKK. I worried because, as a martyr, Obama would achieve more liberal goals than he did alive. Also, there would be riots, and I would be forced to listen to eulogies and Candle in the Wind crap 24/7 by the liberal media. That fantasy was my nightmare. There is no doubt in my mind that, had Obama been assassinated, America would now be a socialist state, probably with Joe Biden or Bernie Sanders as president. When Obama's presidency ended with him alive, I felt like I had dodged a bullet.

 

I'm wondering whether any liberals have similar thoughts about Trump. Do they worry that Trump might be assassinated by antifa? Do they imagine the antifa assassin to be a non-white, transgender, illegal immigrant?  I'm guessing liberals don't worry about conservatives rioting or the media giving 24/7 Trump eulogies. But, how about a Trump Memorial Wall between US and Mexico?  And, some sympathy votes in elections and bills in Congress? Poof, there goes ObamaCare, gay marriage, and abortions, all because Trump is a martyr.

 

WhatMeWorryTrump.jpg 


No I Dont Worry About Martyrdom - I worry about him becoming King

 

Mostly Because the US Congress is comprised of Gutless Disloyal Traitorist Anti-constitutionalists................

 

 


Why is that. He has complied with court orders and tried to get laws and budgets to his liking and accepted it when he didin't  I seem to recall another President that thought he could rule with his pen and his telephone. Trump is nowhere near that.

 

As to the Congress - I don't know what a "Traitorist" but I do like Members of Congress being faithful to the rhetoric that got them elected. Is that being being "Anti-constitutionalists"?

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@mickstuder wrote:

@aruzinsky wrote:

When Obama was president, I worried that he would be assassinated by someone that liberals associate with conservatives, e.g., KKK. I worried because, as a martyr, Obama would achieve more liberal goals than he did alive. Also, there would be riots, and I would be forced to listen to eulogies and Candle in the Wind crap 24/7 by the liberal media. That fantasy was my nightmare. There is no doubt in my mind that, had Obama been assassinated, America would now be a socialist state, probably with Joe Biden or Bernie Sanders as president. When Obama's presidency ended with him alive, I felt like I had dodged a bullet.

 

I'm wondering whether any liberals have similar thoughts about Trump. Do they worry that Trump might be assassinated by antifa? Do they imagine the antifa assassin to be a non-white, transgender, illegal immigrant?  I'm guessing liberals don't worry about conservatives rioting or the media giving 24/7 Trump eulogies. But, how about a Trump Memorial Wall between US and Mexico?  And, some sympathy votes in elections and bills in Congress? Poof, there goes ObamaCare, gay marriage, and abortions, all because Trump is a martyr.

 

WhatMeWorryTrump.jpg 


No I Dont Worry About Martyrdom - I worry about him becoming King

 

Mostly Because the US Congress is comprised of Gutless Disloyal Traitorist Anti-constitutionalists................

 

 


Why is that. He has complied with court orders and tried to get laws and budgets to his liking and accepted it when he didin't  I seem to recall another President that thought he could rule with his pen and his telephone. Trump is nowhere near that.

 

As to the Congress - I don't know what a "Traitorist" but I do like Members of Congress being faithful to the rhetoric that got them elected. Is that being being "Anti-constitutionalists"?


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"Why is that"?

 

"Is that being being "Anti-constitutionalists"?

 

Well of course I have my own Opinion but

 

You be the Judge

 

When you have the Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee - NUNES - saying that if they don't protect the President from Mueller - "All This Goes Away"

 

AND

 

Then when you have the 4th Highest Ranking Member of the GOP House behind Speaker Ryan - Cathy Anne McMorris Rodgers - agreeing that

 

“we only have so many months left” before November’s midterms, making efforts to impeach Rosenstein “a bit complicated.” 

 

“So if we actually vote to impeach, OK, what that does is that triggers ― the Senate then has to take it up,” Nunes can be heard saying on the recording.

 

“Do you want them to drop everything and not confirm the Supreme Court justice, the new Supreme Court justice?

 

The Senate would have to drop everything they’re doing ... and start with impeachment on Rosenstein. And then take the risk of not getting Kavanaugh confirmed.”

 

“So it’s not a matter that any of us like Rosenstein. It’s a matter of, it’s a matter of timing,” he added.

 

“If [Attorney General Jeff] Sessions won’t unrecuse and Mueller won’t clear the president, we’re the only ones,

 

which is really the danger,” he said. “I mean, we have to keep all these seats. We have to keep the majority.

 

If we do not keep the majority, all of this goes away.”

 

Source - https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/devin-nunes-rosenstein-kavanaugh_us_5b6b9b3ee4b0bdd062063b76

 

 

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@mickstuder wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@mickstuder wrote:

@aruzinsky wrote:

When Obama was president, I worried that he would be assassinated by someone that liberals associate with conservatives, e.g., KKK. I worried because, as a martyr, Obama would achieve more liberal goals than he did alive. Also, there would be riots, and I would be forced to listen to eulogies and Candle in the Wind crap 24/7 by the liberal media. That fantasy was my nightmare. There is no doubt in my mind that, had Obama been assassinated, America would now be a socialist state, probably with Joe Biden or Bernie Sanders as president. When Obama's presidency ended with him alive, I felt like I had dodged a bullet.

 

I'm wondering whether any liberals have similar thoughts about Trump. Do they worry that Trump might be assassinated by antifa? Do they imagine the antifa assassin to be a non-white, transgender, illegal immigrant?  I'm guessing liberals don't worry about conservatives rioting or the media giving 24/7 Trump eulogies. But, how about a Trump Memorial Wall between US and Mexico?  And, some sympathy votes in elections and bills in Congress? Poof, there goes ObamaCare, gay marriage, and abortions, all because Trump is a martyr.

 

WhatMeWorryTrump.jpg 


No I Dont Worry About Martyrdom - I worry about him becoming King

 

Mostly Because the US Congress is comprised of Gutless Disloyal Traitorist Anti-constitutionalists................

 

 


Why is that. He has complied with court orders and tried to get laws and budgets to his liking and accepted it when he didin't  I seem to recall another President that thought he could rule with his pen and his telephone. Trump is nowhere near that.

 

As to the Congress - I don't know what a "Traitorist" but I do like Members of Congress being faithful to the rhetoric that got them elected. Is that being being "Anti-constitutionalists"?


---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"Why is that"?

 

"Is that being being "Anti-constitutionalists"?

 

Well of course I have my own Opinion but

 

You be the Judge

 

When you have the Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee - NUNES - saying that if they don't protect the President from Mueller - "All This Goes Away"

It's true - the President's agenda will "go away" without the support of the Congress.

 

AND

 

Then when you have the 4th Highest Ranking Member of the GOP House behind Speaker Ryan - Cathy Anne McMorris Rodgers - agreeing that

 

“we only have so many months left” before November’s midterms, making efforts to impeach Rosenstein “a bit complicated.” 

Seems like a true statement.

 

“So if we actually vote to impeach, OK, what that does is that triggers ― the Senate then has to take it up,” Nunes can be heard saying on the recording.

He's right - what is your point?

 

“Do you want them to drop everything and not confirm the Supreme Court justice, the new Supreme Court justice?

 

The Senate would have to drop everything they’re doing ... and start with impeachment on Rosenstein. And then take the risk of not getting Kavanaugh confirmed.”

Your point is vague.

 

“So it’s not a matter that any of us like Rosenstein. It’s a matter of, it’s a matter of timing,” he added.

This is true, is it not?

 

“If [Attorney General Jeff] Sessions won’t unrecuse and Mueller won’t clear the president, we’re the only ones,

This is true, is it not?

 

which is really the danger,” he said. “I mean, we have to keep all these seats. We have to keep the majority.

This is true, is it not?

 

If we do not keep the majority, all of this goes away.”

This is true, is it not??

 

Source - https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/devin-nunes-rosenstein-kavanaugh_us_5b6b9b3ee4b0bdd062063b76

 

Be sure to let me know what the Huffington Post has to say.

 


 

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@rk9152 wrote:

@mickstuder wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@mickstuder wrote:

@aruzinsky wrote:

When Obama was president, I worried that he would be assassinated by someone that liberals associate with conservatives, e.g., KKK. I worried because, as a martyr, Obama would achieve more liberal goals than he did alive. Also, there would be riots, and I would be forced to listen to eulogies and Candle in the Wind crap 24/7 by the liberal media. That fantasy was my nightmare. There is no doubt in my mind that, had Obama been assassinated, America would now be a socialist state, probably with Joe Biden or Bernie Sanders as president. When Obama's presidency ended with him alive, I felt like I had dodged a bullet.

 

I'm wondering whether any liberals have similar thoughts about Trump. Do they worry that Trump might be assassinated by antifa? Do they imagine the antifa assassin to be a non-white, transgender, illegal immigrant?  I'm guessing liberals don't worry about conservatives rioting or the media giving 24/7 Trump eulogies. But, how about a Trump Memorial Wall between US and Mexico?  And, some sympathy votes in elections and bills in Congress? Poof, there goes ObamaCare, gay marriage, and abortions, all because Trump is a martyr.

 

WhatMeWorryTrump.jpg 


No I Dont Worry About Martyrdom - I worry about him becoming King

 

Mostly Because the US Congress is comprised of Gutless Disloyal Traitorist Anti-constitutionalists................

 

 


Why is that. He has complied with court orders and tried to get laws and budgets to his liking and accepted it when he didin't  I seem to recall another President that thought he could rule with his pen and his telephone. Trump is nowhere near that.

 

As to the Congress - I don't know what a "Traitorist" but I do like Members of Congress being faithful to the rhetoric that got them elected. Is that being being "Anti-constitutionalists"?


---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"Why is that"?

 

"Is that being being "Anti-constitutionalists"?

 

Well of course I have my own Opinion but

 

You be the Judge

 

When you have the Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee - NUNES - saying that if they don't protect the President from Mueller - "All This Goes Away"

It's true - the President's agenda will "go away" without the support of the Congress.

 

 Its not the job of the Congress to Protect the President from our Justice System - it's the job of the Congress to provide oversight of the President and to protect the country from enemies both foreign & domestic 

 

Article VI of the Constitution requires Officials to take an oath “to support this Constitution.” Today, 5 U.S.C. 3331 specifies the language of the oath for federal officials. According to this statute, officials must “solemnly swear (or affirm)” that they “will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic” and that they “will bear true faith and allegiance to the same.”

 

AND

 

Then when you have the 4th Highest Ranking Member of the GOP House behind Speaker Ryan - Cathy Anne McMorris Rodgers - agreeing that

 

“we only have so many months left” before November’s midterms, making efforts to impeach Rosenstein “a bit complicated.” 

Seems like a true statement.

 

Impeachment is not about how convenient the political calendar is - it's about removing a criminal from office if a crime has been committed - none has 

 

“So if we actually vote to impeach, OK, what that does is that triggers ― the Senate then has to take it up,” Nunes can be heard saying on the recording.

He's right - what is your point?

 

He's Lying - in the past the Senate has taken over a year on some Impeachments  - there is no statutory timeframe

 

“Do you want them to drop everything and not confirm the Supreme Court justice, the new Supreme Court justice?

 

McConnell held up a SCOTUS appointment for over a year and if the Republicans in the Senate can only work on one thing at a time - well no wonder there is no Infrastructure Plan - No Immigration Plan - No Repeal & Replacement of Obamacare - No Border Wall - etc.

 

The Senate would have to drop everything they’re doing ... and start with impeachment on Rosenstein. And then take the risk of not getting Kavanaugh confirmed.”

 

Your point is vague.

 

It's not my point - it's a direct quote from Nunes 

 

“So it’s not a matter that any of us like Rosenstein. It’s a matter of, it’s a matter of timing,” he added.

This is true, is it not?

 

Government officials dont get Impeached or not depending on their popularity - they get impeached when they have committed a crime - Rosenstein has committed no crime

 

“If [Attorney General Jeff] Sessions won’t unrecuse and Mueller won’t clear the president, we’re the only ones,

This is true, is it not?

 

The only ones - to what - help the President obstruct justice?

 

Sessions won't unrecuse because it would be against  Justice Dept. Policy - he didn't wake up one morning and just decide to recuse on a whim to upset Trump - it was required 

 

How does Nunes know Mueller won't clear Trump - does he know something the rest of us dont?

 

which is really the danger,” he said. “I mean, we have to keep all these seats. We have to keep the majority.

This is true, is it not?

 

For Who?

 

If we do not keep the majority, all of this goes away.”

This is true, is it not??

 

It is - all the Obstruction - all the lies - all the cronyism - all the Gridlock - all the devisiveness - all the Hatred - it all goes away 

 

Source - https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/devin-nunes-rosenstein-kavanaugh_us_5b6b9b3ee4b0bdd062063b76

 

Be sure to let me know what the Huffington Post has to say.

 

Ok - I will - at least one of us should be providing more than just personal opinions 


 


 

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@mickstuder wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@mickstuder wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@mickstuder wrote:

@aruzinsky wrote:

When Obama was president, I worried that he would be assassinated by someone that liberals associate with conservatives, e.g., KKK. I worried because, as a martyr, Obama would achieve more liberal goals than he did alive. Also, there would be riots, and I would be forced to listen to eulogies and Candle in the Wind crap 24/7 by the liberal media. That fantasy was my nightmare. There is no doubt in my mind that, had Obama been assassinated, America would now be a socialist state, probably with Joe Biden or Bernie Sanders as president. When Obama's presidency ended with him alive, I felt like I had dodged a bullet.

 

I'm wondering whether any liberals have similar thoughts about Trump. Do they worry that Trump might be assassinated by antifa? Do they imagine the antifa assassin to be a non-white, transgender, illegal immigrant?  I'm guessing liberals don't worry about conservatives rioting or the media giving 24/7 Trump eulogies. But, how about a Trump Memorial Wall between US and Mexico?  And, some sympathy votes in elections and bills in Congress? Poof, there goes ObamaCare, gay marriage, and abortions, all because Trump is a martyr.

 

WhatMeWorryTrump.jpg 


No I Dont Worry About Martyrdom - I worry about him becoming King

 

Mostly Because the US Congress is comprised of Gutless Disloyal Traitorist Anti-constitutionalists................

 

 


Why is that. He has complied with court orders and tried to get laws and budgets to his liking and accepted it when he didin't  I seem to recall another President that thought he could rule with his pen and his telephone. Trump is nowhere near that.

 

As to the Congress - I don't know what a "Traitorist" but I do like Members of Congress being faithful to the rhetoric that got them elected. Is that being being "Anti-constitutionalists"?


---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"Why is that"?

 

"Is that being being "Anti-constitutionalists"?

 

Well of course I have my own Opinion but

 

You be the Judge

 

When you have the Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee - NUNES - saying that if they don't protect the President from Mueller - "All This Goes Away"

It's true - the President's agenda will "go away" without the support of the Congress.

 

 Its not the job of the Congress to Protect the President from our Justice System - it's the job of the Congress to provide oversight of the President and to protect the country from enemies both foreign & domestic 

 

Article VI of the Constitution requires Officials to take an oath “to support this Constitution.” Today, 5 U.S.C. 3331 specifies the language of the oath for federal officials. According to this statute, officials must “solemnly swear (or affirm)” that they “will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic” and that they “will bear true faith and allegiance to the same.”

 

AND

 

Then when you have the 4th Highest Ranking Member of the GOP House behind Speaker Ryan - Cathy Anne McMorris Rodgers - agreeing that

 

“we only have so many months left” before November’s midterms, making efforts to impeach Rosenstein “a bit complicated.” 

Seems like a true statement.

 

Impeachment is not about how convenient the political calendar is - it's about removing a criminal from office if a crime has been committed - none has 

He was stating political reality.

 

“So if we actually vote to impeach, OK, what that does is that triggers ― the Senate then has to take it up,” Nunes can be heard saying on the recording.

He's right - what is your point?

 

He's Lying - in the past the Senate has taken over a year on some Impeachments  - there is no statutory timeframe

What is wrong in his words?

 

“Do you want them to drop everything and not confirm the Supreme Court justice, the new Supreme Court justice?

 

McConnell held up a SCOTUS appointment for over a year and if the Republicans in the Senate can only work on one thing at a time - well no wonder there is no Infrastructure Plan - No Immigration Plan - No Repeal & Replacement of Obamacare - No Border Wall - etc.

 

The Senate would have to drop everything they’re doing ... and start with impeachment on Rosenstein. And then take the risk of not getting Kavanaugh confirmed.”

 

Your point is vague.

 

It's not my point - it's a direct quote from Nunes 

O.K. - your point in posting the quote is vague.

 

“So it’s not a matter that any of us like Rosenstein. It’s a matter of, it’s a matter of timing,” he added.

This is true, is it not?

 

Government officials dont get Impeached or not depending on their popularity - they get impeached when they have committed a crime - Rosenstein has committed no crime

He said it's a matter of timing. Is he not right?

 

“If [Attorney General Jeff] Sessions won’t unrecuse and Mueller won’t clear the president, we’re the only ones,

This is true, is it not?

 

The only ones - to what - help the President obstruct justice?

 

Sessions won't unrecuse because it would be against  Justice Dept. Policy - he didn't wake up one morning and just decide to recuse on a whim to upset Trump - it was required 

 

How does Nunes know Mueller won't clear Trump - does he know something the rest of us dont?

 

which is really the danger,” he said. “I mean, we have to keep all these seats. We have to keep the majority.

This is true, is it not?

 

For Who?

Truth is truth not "for"

 

If we do not keep the majority, all of this goes away.”

This is true, is it not??

 

It is - all the Obstruction - all the lies - all the cronyism - all the Gridlock - all the devisiveness - all the Hatred - it all goes away 

That is not what he was referring to and I'm sue you know. However it appears we are in agreement - he is right.

 

Source - https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/devin-nunes-rosenstein-kavanaugh_us_5b6b9b3ee4b0bdd062063b76

 

Be sure to let me know what the Huffington Post has to say.

 

Ok - I will - at least one of us should be providing more than just personal opinions 


 


 


 

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@rk9152 wrote:

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@mickstuder wrote:

@aruzinsky wrote:

When Obama was president, I worried that he would be assassinated by someone that liberals associate with conservatives, e.g., KKK. I worried because, as a martyr, Obama would achieve more liberal goals than he did alive. Also, there would be riots, and I would be forced to listen to eulogies and Candle in the Wind crap 24/7 by the liberal media. That fantasy was my nightmare. There is no doubt in my mind that, had Obama been assassinated, America would now be a socialist state, probably with Joe Biden or Bernie Sanders as president. When Obama's presidency ended with him alive, I felt like I had dodged a bullet.

 

I'm wondering whether any liberals have similar thoughts about Trump. Do they worry that Trump might be assassinated by antifa? Do they imagine the antifa assassin to be a non-white, transgender, illegal immigrant?  I'm guessing liberals don't worry about conservatives rioting or the media giving 24/7 Trump eulogies. But, how about a Trump Memorial Wall between US and Mexico?  And, some sympathy votes in elections and bills in Congress? Poof, there goes ObamaCare, gay marriage, and abortions, all because Trump is a martyr.

 

WhatMeWorryTrump.jpg 


No I Dont Worry About Martyrdom - I worry about him becoming King

 

Mostly Because the US Congress is comprised of Gutless Disloyal Traitorist Anti-constitutionalists................

 

 


Why is that. He has complied with court orders and tried to get laws and budgets to his liking and accepted it when he didin't  I seem to recall another President that thought he could rule with his pen and his telephone. Trump is nowhere near that.

 

As to the Congress - I don't know what a "Traitorist" but I do like Members of Congress being faithful to the rhetoric that got them elected. Is that being being "Anti-constitutionalists"?


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"Why is that"?

 

"Is that being being "Anti-constitutionalists"?

 

Well of course I have my own Opinion but

 

You be the Judge

 

When you have the Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee - NUNES - saying that if they don't protect the President from Mueller - "All This Goes Away"

It's true - the President's agenda will "go away" without the support of the Congress.

 

AND

 

Then when you have the 4th Highest Ranking Member of the GOP House behind Speaker Ryan - Cathy Anne McMorris Rodgers - agreeing that

 

“we only have so many months left” before November’s midterms, making efforts to impeach Rosenstein “a bit complicated.” 

Seems like a true statement.

 

“So if we actually vote to impeach, OK, what that does is that triggers ― the Senate then has to take it up,” Nunes can be heard saying on the recording.

He's right - what is your point?

 

“Do you want them to drop everything and not confirm the Supreme Court justice, the new Supreme Court justice?

 

The Senate would have to drop everything they’re doing ... and start with impeachment on Rosenstein. And then take the risk of not getting Kavanaugh confirmed.”

Your point is vague.

 

“So it’s not a matter that any of us like Rosenstein. It’s a matter of, it’s a matter of timing,” he added.

This is true, is it not?

 

“If [Attorney General Jeff] Sessions won’t unrecuse and Mueller won’t clear the president, we’re the only ones,

This is true, is it not?

 

which is really the danger,” he said. “I mean, we have to keep all these seats. We have to keep the majority.

This is true, is it not?

 

If we do not keep the majority, all of this goes away.”

This is true, is it not??

 

Source - https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/devin-nunes-rosenstein-kavanaugh_us_5b6b9b3ee4b0bdd062063b76

 

Be sure to let me know what the Huffington Post has to say.

 


 


Did you all notice how skillfully he avoided answering whether or not it was true?  (It is)

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@Richva wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@mickstuder wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@mickstuder wrote:

@aruzinsky wrote:

When Obama was president, I worried that he would be assassinated by someone that liberals associate with conservatives, e.g., KKK. I worried because, as a martyr, Obama would achieve more liberal goals than he did alive. Also, there would be riots, and I would be forced to listen to eulogies and Candle in the Wind crap 24/7 by the liberal media. That fantasy was my nightmare. There is no doubt in my mind that, had Obama been assassinated, America would now be a socialist state, probably with Joe Biden or Bernie Sanders as president. When Obama's presidency ended with him alive, I felt like I had dodged a bullet.

 

I'm wondering whether any liberals have similar thoughts about Trump. Do they worry that Trump might be assassinated by antifa? Do they imagine the antifa assassin to be a non-white, transgender, illegal immigrant?  I'm guessing liberals don't worry about conservatives rioting or the media giving 24/7 Trump eulogies. But, how about a Trump Memorial Wall between US and Mexico?  And, some sympathy votes in elections and bills in Congress? Poof, there goes ObamaCare, gay marriage, and abortions, all because Trump is a martyr.

 

WhatMeWorryTrump.jpg 


No I Dont Worry About Martyrdom - I worry about him becoming King

 

Mostly Because the US Congress is comprised of Gutless Disloyal Traitorist Anti-constitutionalists................

 

 


Why is that. He has complied with court orders and tried to get laws and budgets to his liking and accepted it when he didin't  I seem to recall another President that thought he could rule with his pen and his telephone. Trump is nowhere near that.

 

As to the Congress - I don't know what a "Traitorist" but I do like Members of Congress being faithful to the rhetoric that got them elected. Is that being being "Anti-constitutionalists"?


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"Why is that"?

 

"Is that being being "Anti-constitutionalists"?

 

Well of course I have my own Opinion but

 

You be the Judge

 

When you have the Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee - NUNES - saying that if they don't protect the President from Mueller - "All This Goes Away"

It's true - the President's agenda will "go away" without the support of the Congress.

 

AND

 

Then when you have the 4th Highest Ranking Member of the GOP House behind Speaker Ryan - Cathy Anne McMorris Rodgers - agreeing that

 

“we only have so many months left” before November’s midterms, making efforts to impeach Rosenstein “a bit complicated.” 

Seems like a true statement.

 

“So if we actually vote to impeach, OK, what that does is that triggers ― the Senate then has to take it up,” Nunes can be heard saying on the recording.

He's right - what is your point?

 

“Do you want them to drop everything and not confirm the Supreme Court justice, the new Supreme Court justice?

 

The Senate would have to drop everything they’re doing ... and start with impeachment on Rosenstein. And then take the risk of not getting Kavanaugh confirmed.”

Your point is vague.

 

“So it’s not a matter that any of us like Rosenstein. It’s a matter of, it’s a matter of timing,” he added.

This is true, is it not?

 

“If [Attorney General Jeff] Sessions won’t unrecuse and Mueller won’t clear the president, we’re the only ones,

This is true, is it not?

 

which is really the danger,” he said. “I mean, we have to keep all these seats. We have to keep the majority.

This is true, is it not?

 

If we do not keep the majority, all of this goes away.”

This is true, is it not??

 

Source - https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/devin-nunes-rosenstein-kavanaugh_us_5b6b9b3ee4b0bdd062063b76

 

Be sure to let me know what the Huffington Post has to say.

 


 


Did you all notice how skillfully he avoided answering whether or not it was true?  (It is)


How strange, "He" could have sworn that "he" saw some variation of "This is true" five times and "He's right" and "Seems like a true statement".

 

Seems like you and "he" were not reading the same post. But then, you do have a tendency to post about "him" rather than the topics.

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@aruzinsky wrote:

When Obama was president, I worried that he would be assassinated by someone that liberals associate with conservatives, e.g., KKK.

 

I'm wondering whether any liberals have similar thoughts about Trump.


A reminder of the 2006 British docudrama political thriller film about the fictional assassination of George W. Bush

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A reminder of the 2006 British Docudrama political thriller film about the fictional assassination of George W. Bush.

 

I wasn't even aware of that movie. Just looked it up and read many movie theaters refused to show it. Not just here, but worldwide.

 

The movie cost about $2 million to make and grossed only several hundred thousand. I'm not sure if I would have watched it had I'd known about it.- an uncomfortable topic.

I just watched the trailer. I don't think I would have enjoyed watching that movie, even though I did not like George Bush as president.

 

gw bush.jpg

 

 

 

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Actually, IMO, thinking of both of these presidents being assassinated is a bit sick.

 

A Martyr of what?  Fascism?


Man learns from history that man learns nothing from history.
Regular Social Butterfly


@ChasKy53 wrote:

Actually, IMO, thinking of both of these presidents being assassinated is a bit sick.

 

A Martyr of what?  Fascism?


You are calling the Secret Service sick.  Obama would be the martyr of askholes.

You are getting sleepy.
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@ChasKy53 wrote:

Actually, IMO, thinking of both of these presidents being assassinated is a bit sick.

 

 


Agreed. I loathe what Trump is doing as president. But I wouldn’t want him dead.  

 

I didn’t care one whit about him when he was fiddling around with his lowbrow reality show. Let him go back to it...it’s a more natural habitat for him. 

Regular Social Butterfly


@ManicProgressive wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

Actually, IMO, thinking of both of these presidents being assassinated is a bit sick.

 

 


Agreed. I loathe what Trump is doing as president. But I wouldn’t want him dead.  

 

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Tell it to McStrudel:

  


@mickstuder wrote:

 

 

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You are getting sleepy.
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I hardly think the Snowflake in Chief is going to be considered a martyr.  He will leave office under a cloud at best and subpoenas at worst.  The full story of his affairs will begin coming out then as well since he will have no defenders to punish those who come forward.  Investigations into his business dealings will make it impossible for him to act as a snake oil salesman and his loss of the Trump name cachet will be permanent. 

 

He just has none of the attributes of a martyr.  I do like the Jonestown corollary. 

Regular Social Butterfly


@Richva wrote:

I hardly think the Snowflake in Chief is going to be considered a martyr.  He will leave office under a cloud at best and subpoenas at worst.  The full story of his affairs will begin coming out then as well since he will have no defenders to punish those who come forward.  Investigations into his business dealings will make it impossible for him to act as a snake oil salesman and his loss of the Trump name cachet will be permanent. 

 

He just has none of the attributes of a martyr.  I do like the Jonestown corollary. 


Yes, he's not dead.  I suspect that you don't know what martyr means.

 

mar·tyr
ˈmärdər/
noun

a person who is killed because of their beliefs

You are getting sleepy.
Honored Social Butterfly

Is this a sarah carter fox news conspiracy that I missed? If capone, hitler, or mccarthy are martyrs, sure why not. 

It’s just that I don’t think that any of those characters were considered martyrs and neither will trump. I don’t lose any sleep over trump’s legacy...which will be going down as the worst president ever. 

Honored Social Butterfly


@aruzinsky wrote:

@Richva wrote:

I hardly think the Snowflake in Chief is going to be considered a martyr.  He will leave office under a cloud at best and subpoenas at worst.  The full story of his affairs will begin coming out then as well since he will have no defenders to punish those who come forward.  Investigations into his business dealings will make it impossible for him to act as a snake oil salesman and his loss of the Trump name cachet will be permanent. 

 

He just has none of the attributes of a martyr.  I do like the Jonestown corollary. 


Yes, he's not dead.  I suspect that you don't know what martyr means.

 

mar·tyr
ˈmärdər/
noun

a person who is killed because of their beliefs


Oh. you are assuming that Trump will be assassinated and I have much more faith in the Secret Service than you do. 

 

A martyr can also be for a cause and Trump has no cause other than Trump so, by definition, he cannot be a martyr to any cause.  

Regular Social Butterfly


@Richva wrote:

@aruzinsky wrote:

@Richva wrote:

I hardly think the Snowflake in Chief is going to be considered a martyr.  He will leave office under a cloud at best and subpoenas at worst.  The full story of his affairs will begin coming out then as well since he will have no defenders to punish those who come forward.  Investigations into his business dealings will make it impossible for him to act as a snake oil salesman and his loss of the Trump name cachet will be permanent. 

 

He just has none of the attributes of a martyr.  I do like the Jonestown corollary. 


Yes, he's not dead.  I suspect that you don't know what martyr means.

 

mar·tyr
ˈmärdər/
noun

a person who is killed because of their beliefs


Oh. you are assuming that Trump will be assassinated and I have much more faith in the Secret Service than you do. 

 

A martyr can also be for a cause and Trump has no cause other than Trump so, by definition, he cannot be a martyr to any cause.  


So, according to you, building a wall between US and Mexico isn't a cause.

You are getting sleepy.
Honored Social Butterfly

aruzinsky: I'm guessing liberals don't worry about conservatives rioting or the media giving 24/7 Trump eulogies.

 

 

24/7 Trump eulogies? Few liberals watch Fox, so they would miss that travesty.

Honored Social Butterfly

No. Do you equate Trump with the likes of bin Laden? Or equate his followers with the likes of Al Qaeda?

Honored Social Butterfly

Trump   a martyr?  please!!!!!!!!!!!  the American people have been the martyrs' of this dishonorable Administration.
The American people are the martyrs.  and we all should cry for them and fight to free them from this lunacy that we are seeing that is passing for  government.

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@Roxanna35 wrote:

Trump   a martyr?  please!!!!!!!!!!!  the American people have been the martyrs' of this dishonorable Administration.
The American people are the martyrs.  and we all should cry for them and fight to free them from this lunacy that we are seeing that is passing for  government.


Having an election not go your way and being unable to get over it does not make you a martyr, it makes you a crybaby.

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@rk9152 wrote:

@Roxanna35 wrote:

Trump   a martyr?  please!!!!!!!!!!!  the American people have been the martyrs' of this dishonorable Administration.
The American people are the martyrs.  and we all should cry for them and fight to free them from this lunacy that we are seeing that is passing for  government.


Having an election not go your way and being unable to get over it does not make you a martyr, it makes you a crybaby.


Naw. Watching Trump force our allies like Turkey into the arms of Russia makes us crybabies.  Watching Trump as he continues to cheat on his wives makes us crybabies.  Reading "Unhinged" will probably make us crybabies. Reading the Steele dossier makes us crybabies.  The Republicans refusing to look into the facts in the dossier makes us crybabies.  Watching Trump fly off to his weekly golf vacation makes us crybabies. 

 

We are over losing the election because it looks like the first step to the destruction of the Republican party.  THAT we are getting excited about. 

Honored Social Butterfly


@Richva wrote:
    @@rk9152 wrote:


 

Having an election not go your way and being unable to get over it does not make you a martyr, it makes you a crybaby.


Naw.


Liberals have been crying over losing since the polls closed, starting with the Cryer in Chief Obama.

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