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   Follow the money is important and yes, there are numbers in the news today.   

   

The cost of holding migrant children who have been separated from their parents in newly created “tent cities” is $775 per person per night, according to an official at the Department of Health and Human Services cited by NBC News.

That’s far higher than the cost of keeping children with their parents in detention centers or holding them in more permanent buildings, NBC reports. The report said the reason for the high cost is that the sudden urgency to bring in security, air conditioning, medical workers and other government contractors far surpasses the cost for structures that are routinely staffed. By contrast, keeping children with their parents in detention centers like the one run by U.S. Customs and Immigration Enforcement in Dilley, Texas cost $298 per resident per night, according to an agency estimate. President Donald Trump is facing mounting criticism from both Democrats and Republicans for the forced separation of children from their parents at the U.S.-Mexico border.

 

     More importantly is the damage that is being done to these young people.    Apparently  the RW ignoblers have forgotten all the lessons that were learned during the GWB debacle in Iraq- all the damage done by mistreating people there created a country that really hates the USA.      That is what Donald and his miscretants are creating.     Anyone who doesn't believe that children who are essentially being held in US without parents will not hate the US for tearing them away from their parents have learned nothing and apparently don't care.   


In many of not most cases the damage was done by parents that packed the kids up and sent them off with "coyotes" or on their own to ride on top of trains to illegally flood our southern borders.

 

Will they hate their parents for their situation - or is it only the "torn from the bosom" kids?

 

We "miscreants" and "ignobelers" understand that the government must enforce existing law until it is changed by the law creators - the Congress.

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Wikipedia is a reader edited site where users add information.  Just because someone added Detention Centers to lists of Concentration Camps doesn't necessarily make the so.

 

And Hitler, Nazis, etc has been thrown around loosely by the leftist posters here does emulate the method Hitler and the Nazis overthrew the duly elected government and brought them to power.  Should we worry if they succeed here would they also suspend the Constitution that made this nation free?

 

First there has been an effort to remove the 2nd Amendment and ban ownership of firearms; and now this effort to weaken the present administration.  What will the next move?

 

So far they are following the methods that both Nazis and Communists seized power in so many countries in the past. 

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   Follow the money is important and yes, there are numbers in the news today.   

   

The cost of holding migrant children who have been separated from their parents in newly created “tent cities” is $775 per person per night, according to an official at the Department of Health and Human Services cited by NBC News.

That’s far higher than the cost of keeping children with their parents in detention centers or holding them in more permanent buildings, NBC reports. The report said the reason for the high cost is that the sudden urgency to bring in security, air conditioning, medical workers and other government contractors far surpasses the cost for structures that are routinely staffed. By contrast, keeping children with their parents in detention centers like the one run by U.S. Customs and Immigration Enforcement in Dilley, Texas cost $298 per resident per night, according to an agency estimate. President Donald Trump is facing mounting criticism from both Democrats and Republicans for the forced separation of children from their parents at the U.S.-Mexico border.

 

     More importantly is the damage that is being done to these young people.    Apparently  the RW ignoblers have forgotten all the lessons that were learned during the GWB debacle in Iraq- all the damage done by mistreating people there created a country that really hates the USA.      That is what Donald and his miscretants are creating.     Anyone who doesn't believe that children who are essentially being held in US without parents will not hate the US for tearing them away from their parents have learned nothing and apparently don't care.   

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I can’t believe we are not following the money. These private companies that own the facilities these children are be incarcerated in are charging the American taxpayers huge sums of money. Does Trump own any of these hotels? Are any of the children who have not been returned to their parents been sold to rich people who wanted to adopt but couldn’t for whatever reason. Is someone making money on this possible human trafficking? Please think about the crying children and flood the Whitehouse and congressional switchboards with your calls to stop this injustice now!
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So...labels enable demagogues to play with definitions, distort reality and manufacture meanings having nothing to do with actual function...only with perception. Orwell addressed that.  Clips of 'the donald' speaking to his disciples is a case in point.  It works.  Well....maybe not with everyone, but the demagogue only needs enough to 'get the job done'.  You can't really expect a voluntary return to rational behavior when the other kind works so well, now can you?

 

Yeah...it's a disgrace.  There are indeed "Ugly Americans".  Too bad, but it is what it is. 

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I am not sure I would call them concentration camps and they are treating the children humanely.  The camp about 2 hours from us is a huge air conditioned tent with showers, TV, but lines of porta potties outside. All of that is beside the point as more children are taken from their parents they will eventually overwhelm the facilities. Based on the management demonstrated over the last year, I have no faith that the Trump administration can keep up with the influx. I also doubt they care very much and will abandon the "humane" part as soon as it becomes inconvenient or the costs start to leak to the press. 

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https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/d3kjma/wikipedia-us-detention-centers-concentration-camps-vgtrn?u...

 

Wikipedia Added US Border 'Detention Centers' to Its List of Concentration Camps

 

Alongside Dachau and Japanese internment camps.

 

The detention centers along the US-Mexico border housing hundreds of migrant children who have been separated from their parents in the last six weeks are now included in Wikipedia's list of concentration camps, Gizmodo reports. It joins a dishearteningly long list of other sites of atrocity throughout history, from Dachau to the Soviet gulags to America's WWII-era Japanese internment camps.

 

What a national disgrace

 

From the Geneva Conventions after WWII to this.

 

 

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