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You have to go through an immigration check point just to visit another part of the US????


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Border_Patrol_interior_checkpoints

 

 

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Detained by Border Patrol in Montana for Speaking Spanish

 

Kind of like driving while black.

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@ManicProgressive wrote:

You have to go through an immigration check point just to visit another part of the US????


Only within 100 miles of the US border.

A SCOTUS decision gave border patrol authority to temporarily stop people and ask what their nationality is.  However, there's a flaw - there is no requirement that anyone - especially a citizen - answer their question (no penalty for refusing to answer) - for that matter there's no requirement in US law that anyone answer any law enforcement question.

The fifth Amendment says that everyone is entitled to not answer any question to avoid the possibility of self incrimination - or of their answer being misinterpreted and their being falsely charged with a crime.

An attorney can be asked to advise the person about whether to answer the question - and what to say if the question is answered.

There are people (American Citizens) who post videos on youtube of their refusing (lawfully) to tell border patrol at those Inland Immigration Checkpoints what their nationality is.

Yep - I enjoy messing with them - sometimes I answer in Russian - just cause...

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Now the two women are suing. As they should. Speaking a different language is not sufficient to detain and question someone about status. 

 


I have to agree that were questioned just because they were speaking Spanish, or any other language in a supermarket.  It's evident they were being profiled with "The Border Patrol agent even told them he wouldn't have stopped them if they had been speaking French." 

 

He would have a field day here in a H.E.B., Walmart, Kroger, etc in South Texas.  A bonus if he visited the Asian International Food Market we shop at in Houston...where a babel of languages is heard.

 

Would that mean that my wife, a naturalized citizen, would be required to carry identification when she/we go shopping?  The only time she does is when she is driving, not when we are together.

 

I agree that this particular incident was wrong.

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Whenever we go to visit some of my Navajo/Ute/Hispanic wife's Hispanic relatives who live in Southern New Mexico ,we have to go through one of the Inland Immigration Checkpoints.

When we are asked if we are American Citizens, we respond in the affirmative - in the Navajo language.  It usually takes them some time, even after we tell them in English that we had affirmed our American Citizenship - in Navajo - a uniquely American language...

It's their problem...

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Two Americans were detained last year for questioning for speaking in Spanish. Spanish was key. The Border Patrol agent even told them he wouldn’t have stopped them if they had been speaking French. Even though the town is 20 miles from the Canadian border.

 

 

“The lawsuit also alleges that Suda and Hernandez had narrowly missed being detained earlier in 2018, when a CBP agent who saw them dancing one night took photos of them that he shared with other agents, along with a message: "There are two Mexicans at the bar."”

 

 

Now the two women are suing. As they should. Speaking a different language is not sufficient to detain and question someone about status. 

 

 

https://www.npr.org/2019/02/15/695184555/americans-who-were-detained-after-speaking-spanish-in-monta...

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