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Desperation of the liberal left

Imagine that old bag Pelosi and Chuckie actually trying something positive .... 

 

Sen. Chuck Schumer, Rep. Nancy Pelosi and other Democratic lawmakers are scheduled to speak about their new economic platform.

Their plan, "A Better Deal," is the Democrats response to President Donald Trump's criticism of Obama-era policies, as they hope to reconnect with working-class voters whose frustrations helped drive their support for Trump.

 

Can you believe it? have they lost their minds? When lies, hate, and intolerance fails... maybe listening to real working Americans might work? Crooked Hillary is going back in the woods. No money to be found in listening. 

 

From The New Deal to the Better Deal... where will this lead? 

 

Will truth fracture the democratic party? Can the democrats ever regain the respect from the basket of deplorables? or has that bridge burned to the ground? 

 

Republican House, Republican Senate, Republican President, special elections = sweep 4-0

 

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Desiring the Government provide essential things does not imply it should provide ALL things, regardless of what your GOPerLords may have told you.

 

Also, 100% of the people who spend money pay taxes as do 100% of people who work. There has never been a time in the history of the USA when EVERYONE who worked paid Federal Income Tax, in fact, the highest portion of those actually paying taxes since 1913 was 66% at the end of WWII, but in 1941, only 16% paid Federal income tax.

 

How about we return to the tax structure that had the economy growing at 6-8% and the rich getting richer every year? Wouldn't that satisfy the rabid right?

 

Until the GOPerLords realized they could protect their fortunes by getting their lofo base to think there was some great disgrace in NOT being paid enough to have to pay Federal income tax, the portion of those actually having "taxable income" was around 10%, with 90% having income less than the allowable deductions. Until 1960, CORPORATIONS contributed over HALF the total tax revenue to the Federal Government, but thanks to Republicans, the corporate share is now below 20% with the Middle Class absorbing the reduction by having their deductions slashed. Last year dozens of Fortune 500 Corporations paid NO FEDERAL TAX, and several received billions in Government subsidies, while human beings needing assistance had their support cut.

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@Olderscout66 wrote:

Desiring the Government provide essential things does not imply it should provide ALL things, regardless of what your GOPerLords may have told you.

 

Also, 100% of the people who spend money pay taxes as do 100% of people who work. There has never been a time in the history of the USA when EVERYONE who worked paid Federal Income Tax, in fact, the highest portion of those actually paying taxes since 1913 was 66% at the end of WWII, but in 1941, only 16% paid Federal income tax.

 

How about we return to the tax structure that had the economy growing at 6-8% and the rich getting richer every year? Wouldn't that satisfy the rabid right?

 

Until the GOPerLords realized they could protect their fortunes by getting their lofo base to think there was some great disgrace in NOT being paid enough to have to pay Federal income tax, the portion of those actually having "taxable income" was around 10%, with 90% having income less than the allowable deductions. Until 1960, CORPORATIONS contributed over HALF the total tax revenue to the Federal Government, but thanks to Republicans, the corporate share is now below 20% with the Middle Class absorbing the reduction by having their deductions slashed. Last year dozens of Fortune 500 Corporations paid NO FEDERAL TAX, and several received billions in Government subsidies, while human beings needing assistance had their support cut.


Slight correction - 100 percent of those companies pay no taxes. Taxes are just a cost of doing business that gets passed on to the consumer.

 

Find another bit of demogoguery to throw out.

 

We are not in the economy (domestic nor international) of the post WWII era - move on. Maybe you can go back to your "It all started 30 years ago" theory.

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Desperation of the liberal left will always "expand" the definition of rights to expand political support. Anytime there is an exchange of service, that is not a right. Someone somewhere is paying someone for something. Like Margaret Thatcher said... sooner or later you run out of other people's money. If liberal states want to expand health care... then tax those folks who want it. CA is doing that.... and the middle class is leaving.




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@Olderscout66 wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@CriticalThinking wrote:

I keep repeating the problem radical right wingers cannot seem to grasp. They view health care as a something one must earn by making enough money. But every other industrial country in the western world, automatically provides health care to all their citizens from birth. 

 

If you don't work as hard as me or if you don't make enough money, you don't deserve quality health care.


Everyone "deserves" quality health care and you most likely will have to PAY FOR IT!  Do you expect others to take up your slack?


Of course not, NOT. We expect to pay for it the same way we pay for all our infrastructure - TOGETHER!  


The radical left is always confusing infrastructure which we ALL USE, with individual needs which we ALL DON'T USE. 

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@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@Olderscout66 wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@CriticalThinking wrote:

I keep repeating the problem radical right wingers cannot seem to grasp. They view health care as a something one must earn by making enough money. But every other industrial country in the western world, automatically provides health care to all their citizens from birth. 

 

If you don't work as hard as me or if you don't make enough money, you don't deserve quality health care.


Everyone "deserves" quality health care and you most likely will have to PAY FOR IT!  Do you expect others to take up your slack?


Of course not, NOT. We expect to pay for it the same way we pay for all our infrastructure - TOGETHER!  


The radical left is always confusing infrastructure which we ALL USE, with individual needs which we ALL DON'T USE. 


Good point, NOT. These are the same people who call the Army and libraries "socialism".

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@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@Olderscout66 wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@CriticalThinking wrote:

I keep repeating the problem radical right wingers cannot seem to grasp. They view health care as a something one must earn by making enough money. But every other industrial country in the western world, automatically provides health care to all their citizens from birth. 

 

If you don't work as hard as me or if you don't make enough money, you don't deserve quality health care.


Everyone "deserves" quality health care and you most likely will have to PAY FOR IT!  Do you expect others to take up your slack?


Of course not, NOT. We expect to pay for it the same way we pay for all our infrastructure - TOGETHER!  


The radical left is always confusing infrastructure which we ALL USE, with individual needs which we ALL DON'T USE. 


The Rabid Right believe there exist Supermen who CANNOT get sick or injured. Either that, or they do not comprehend the whole idea of "insurance" which is based on protecting yourself against what CAN happen, not what you HOPE may not happen.

 

So tell us NOT, who ARE these magical beings you think will NEVER wind up in the ER or other medical facility?

 

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@Olderscout66 wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@Olderscout66 wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@CriticalThinking wrote:

I keep repeating the problem radical right wingers cannot seem to grasp. They view health care as a something one must earn by making enough money. But every other industrial country in the western world, automatically provides health care to all their citizens from birth. 

 

If you don't work as hard as me or if you don't make enough money, you don't deserve quality health care.


Everyone "deserves" quality health care and you most likely will have to PAY FOR IT!  Do you expect others to take up your slack?


Of course not, NOT. We expect to pay for it the same way we pay for all our infrastructure - TOGETHER!  


The radical left is always confusing infrastructure which we ALL USE, with individual needs which we ALL DON'T USE. 


The Rabid Right believe there exist Supermen who CANNOT get sick or injured. Either that, or they do not comprehend the whole idea of "insurance" which is based on protecting yourself against what CAN happen, not what you HOPE may not happen.

 

So tell us NOT, who ARE these magical beings you think will NEVER wind up in the ER or other medical facility?

 


No "magical beings" exist except in your mind.  Everyone may wind up in the ER some day.  I have no problems "comprehending" insurance.  What I have a problem comprehending is the lefts feeling, that health care is the same as infrastructure.  That, my friend, is total nonsense.  Insurance is something that you PURCHASE because you want to protect yourself with the insurance and you are free to buy or not buy.  Citizen mandates are clearly covered in the U.S. Constitution and Obamacare or single payer is NOT enumerated.

 

So, in conclusion, I don't feel the need to support you in your health care needs as I don't feel you have the responsibility to support me with my auto insurance premiums!  Bridges are something we all use but your personal visit to the ER is NOT!

 

Have a nice day.

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By reading some of the right winger comments in this thread, you should more clearly understand the huge divide over health care. Unlike other countries, such as Canada, England, Sweden, etc. right wingers consider health care an aspect of life one must earn before, in their eyes, one deserves good care. 

 

However, almost all western countries see health care differently. In almost every other country, you are entitled to decent health care just because you're a citizen. 

 

Radical right wingers, as you've seen in this thread, see it very differently. If you haven't worked hard enough, you haven't earned the right to decent health care. As long as we have that huge philosophical divide, we'll never agree on a good system which provides quality health care for all citizens.

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      WWJD ?  If they're not rich enough or healthy enough , just let them die in the streets. cuz I got mine and I ain't paying for them !!!  Such Christians !!!

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As I've stated often in this forum, many of our mean spirited radical right wingers believe health care is something you earn. And if you don't earn it, you're on your own with health issues you cannot afford to treat.

 

Thankfully, a large number of Americans believe health care (and health insurance) should be a birth right of all American citizens. How we achieve this goal can be debated. But those are the primary differences in how many perceive health care. What do you think?

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@CriticalThinking wrote:

As I've stated often in this forum, many of our mean spirited radical right wingers believe health care is something you earn. And if you don't earn it, you're on your own with health issues you cannot afford to treat.

 

Thankfully, a large number of Americans believe health care (and health insurance) should be a birth right of all American citizens. How we achieve this goal can be debated. But those are the primary differences in how many perceive health care. What do you think?


The issue is whether we as a society will guarantee medical care for those who are unable to pay for it themselves.  That sounds like a really lousy deal for the person who either worked hard, was lucky or did without, and a sweet ride for the person who was a screw up, was unlucky or who saved nothing.

 

Although the Government may enact laws to force the taxpayers to provide, or subsidize, health care for everyone, it cannot be a assumed to be a right because it is a commodity that someone has to pay for. Obtaining health care means taking advantage of time, skills, and resources that belong to other people. You cannot encroach on their human rights to guarantee yourselves a right. To deny that it is a commodity is illogical.

 

If you carry the argument that medical care is a right because it is necessary to maintain a quality of life to its logical extreme, then you can argue that everyone has a right to all of the other comforts and conveniences of life, such as food, housing, power, etc, etc (Oh wait...I think that we are creeping in that direction).

 

None of the enumerated rights in the Constitution involve taking what other people have and giving it to someone else. It is illogical to assume that one has a right to health care at the expense of another person unless you assume that the other person has no right to a freedom of action.

 

What happens to your "right" if the doctor decides not to come to work on the day that you want his services?

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@jfpinlvn wrote:

@CriticalThinking wrote:

As I've stated often in this forum, many of our mean spirited radical right wingers believe health care is something you earn. And if you don't earn it, you're on your own with health issues you cannot afford to treat.

 

Thankfully, a large number of Americans believe health care (and health insurance) should be a birth right of all American citizens. How we achieve this goal can be debated. But those are the primary differences in how many perceive health care. What do you think?


The issue is whether we as a society will guarantee medical care for those who are unable to pay for it themselves.  That sounds like a really lousy deal for the person who either worked hard, was lucky or did without, and a sweet ride for the person who was a screw up, was unlucky or who saved nothing.

 

Although the Government may enact laws to force the taxpayers to provide, or subsidize, health care for everyone, it cannot be a assumed to be a right because it is a commodity that someone has to pay for. Obtaining health care means taking advantage of time, skills, and resources that belong to other people. You cannot encroach on their human rights to guarantee yourselves a right. To deny that it is a commodity is illogical.

 

If you carry the argument that medical care is a right because it is necessary to maintain a quality of life to its logical extreme, then you can argue that everyone has a right to all of the other comforts and conveniences of life, such as food, housing, power, etc, etc (Oh wait...I think that we are creeping in that direction).

 

None of the enumerated rights in the Constitution involve taking what other people have and giving it to someone else. It is illogical to assume that one has a right to health care at the expense of another person unless you assume that the other person has no right to a freedom of action.

 

What happens to your "right" if the doctor decides not to come to work on the day that you want his services?


We have that now. Anyone showing up at a hospital needed medical care cannot be turned away. 

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@Richva wrote:

@jfpinlvn wrote:

@CriticalThinking wrote:

As I've stated often in this forum, many of our mean spirited radical right wingers believe health care is something you earn. And if you don't earn it, you're on your own with health issues you cannot afford to treat.

 

Thankfully, a large number of Americans believe health care (and health insurance) should be a birth right of all American citizens. How we achieve this goal can be debated. But those are the primary differences in how many perceive health care. What do you think?


The issue is whether we as a society will guarantee medical care for those who are unable to pay for it themselves.  That sounds like a really lousy deal for the person who either worked hard, was lucky or did without, and a sweet ride for the person who was a screw up, was unlucky or who saved nothing.

 

Although the Government may enact laws to force the taxpayers to provide, or subsidize, health care for everyone, it cannot be a assumed to be a right because it is a commodity that someone has to pay for. Obtaining health care means taking advantage of time, skills, and resources that belong to other people. You cannot encroach on their human rights to guarantee yourselves a right. To deny that it is a commodity is illogical.

 

If you carry the argument that medical care is a right because it is necessary to maintain a quality of life to its logical extreme, then you can argue that everyone has a right to all of the other comforts and conveniences of life, such as food, housing, power, etc, etc (Oh wait...I think that we are creeping in that direction).

 

None of the enumerated rights in the Constitution involve taking what other people have and giving it to someone else. It is illogical to assume that one has a right to health care at the expense of another person unless you assume that the other person has no right to a freedom of action.

 

What happens to your "right" if the doctor decides not to come to work on the day that you want his services?


We have that now. Anyone showing up at a hospital needed medical care cannot be turned away. 


Not true.  You only have a "right" to emergency care and then you are on your own.

 

The act gives individuals the right to emergency care regardless of their ability to pay. EMTALA was enacted as part of the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act (COBRA).

 

http://www.insure.com/health-insurance/emergency-rights.html

 

Try showing up at the hospital, telling them you have no insurance, and you have a stomach ache and see how well that works out.

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Richva wrote

 

We have that now. Anyone showing up at a hospital needed medical care cannot be turned away.

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They better head to a public hospital to make sure that their complete needs might be met - because EMTALA has qualifiers - in need of emergency care and after stabilization, they can be released or sent somewhere else for other treatment most often to a public hospital.

 

Emergency care itself has qualifiers - depending upon whether or not the hospital itself has an ER.  

 

 

 

 

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Desperation of the liberal left could manifest by expanding the definition of what a "right" is, as part of a progressive political agenda, but rights are defined in our constitution. However I will say, it is a platform that most Americans have sympathy for, but are not willing to provide pseudo rights via our taxes.


First we don't all agree what a right is. Rights are not given or provided by man or government. Responsibilities and rights are different. Life is a right and that simple basic understanding of what a "right" is, must be acknowledged, or it would be hard to move forward on any discussion.

Medical care is not a right. To pursue good health is a right. Insurance is not a right. To make choices about your health is a right... good or bad. To be guaranteed good health is not a right.

We have a responsibility as Americans to help other Americans who truely are in need of help. It is not the right of those receiving help, to dictate terms of what our responsibilities are.

Who will lead the Democrats towards the better deal? wouldn't health be part of that? are the democrats able to serve with being served first? The more elite your party becomes the more you alienate the hard working deplorables who pay our taxes and fight your wars.

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Fishslayer666 wrote:



Rights are not given or provided by man or government.

 

Wrong.

 

Man wrote the Constitution.

Man ratified the Constitution. 

Man created our government via the Constitution.

Man mandated separation of church and state - an American tradition - (initiated by the minister who founded the nation's first Baptist congregation) - since 1644.

Isn't the First Amendment right to worship as one see fit granted by the Constitution - man's creation that established and defined government?

The right of freedom of the press, freedom of speech and assembly?

What of the 14th Amendment right of Equal Protection under the Law for All  - even non-citizens?

(yep - that means "illegal aliens" have most of the same rights - including 4th, 5th and 6th Amendment rights as native born Americans - it's the law, you know...)

What of the right of women to vote, own property, not be controlled by any other person, initiate divorce actions, and all the rest?

For the sake of discussion isn't it a fact that Man gave the right to a wife of a CC to divorce her CC spouse, become a lesbian, and join a coven - it's entirely and unquestionably her right, isn't it?

What of the right of citizens 18 and over to vote?

 

Don't be silly...

 

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@CriticalThinking wrote:

As I've stated often in this forum, many of our mean spirited radical right wingers believe health care is something you earn. And if you don't earn it, you're on your own with health issues you cannot afford to treat.

 

Thankfully, a large number of Americans believe health care (and health insurance) should be a birth right of all American citizens. How we achieve this goal can be debated. But those are the primary differences in how many perceive health care. What do you think?


We all want good health care BUT I disagree that good health care is a birth right to all American citizens.  Our "rights" are clearly spelled out in the U.S. Constitution while our desires are discussed in these forums.  Many on the right would consider the radical left as mean spirited since they think that all services should be run, controlled, and paid for by the government with funding supplied by the diminishing number of taxpayers.

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    Apparently one of the new bloggers of the Alt-right has yet to learn the nuances of how copy / paste actually works, especially with embedded links.     

 

    This is from CNBC - somehow the blogger / author forgot to mention that - which could easily be done via h/t.    But instead they "goofed".    {the most PC of words}.      

 

Democrats take aim at big business and drug prices in new economic campaign

  • Democrats unveil "A Better Deal" economic platform.
  • Among top items is greater scrutiny of corporate mergers like AT&T's $85 billion bid for Time Warner.
  • Democrats are also proposing an independent agency to tackle the high cost of prescription drugs.

   

     RW hater's are gonna hate, it is what they do.    In their zeal to smear their political opponents, they totally lose the ability to cover their own tracks and demonstrate for all to see how they use partial information which many may correctly interpret as FAKE NEWS by GOP.     So thanks for showing your cards so early in your tenuure here.  

 

         Republican FAKE News brought to you by FOX for Donald:  https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/01/business/media/seth-rich-fox-news-white-house-lawsuit.html?rref=c...

 

      No excuse, it is 8/1 - you get 10 free articles!!!!     

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@afisher wrote:

    Apparently one of the new bloggers of the Alt-right has yet to learn the nuances of how copy / paste actually works, especially with embedded links.     

 

    This is from CNBC - somehow the blogger / author forgot to mention that - which could easily be done via h/t.    But instead they "goofed".    {the most PC of words}.      

 

Democrats take aim at big business and drug prices in new economic campaign

  • Democrats unveil "A Better Deal" economic platform.
  • Among top items is greater scrutiny of corporate mergers like AT&T's $85 billion bid for Time Warner.
  • Democrats are also proposing an independent agency to tackle the high cost of prescription drugs.

   

     RW hater's are gonna hate, it is what they do.    In their zeal to smear their political opponents, they totally lose the ability to cover their own tracks and demonstrate for all to see how they use partial information which many may correctly interpret as FAKE NEWS by GOP.     So thanks for showing your cards so early in your tenuure here.  

 

         Republican FAKE News brought to you by FOX for Donald:  https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/01/business/media/seth-rich-fox-news-white-house-lawsuit.html?rref=c...

 

      No excuse, it is 8/1 - you get 10 free articles!!!!     


And that means what, the left is not in trouble election-wise?? I know they are doing fine "mob in the street-wise". But, at least for now, it is elections not mobs that determine our leadership.

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@Fishslayer666 wrote:

Imagine that old bag Pelosi and Chuckie actually trying something positive .... 

 

Sen. Chuck Schumer, Rep. Nancy Pelosi and other Democratic lawmakers are scheduled to speak about their new economic platform.

Their plan, "A Better Deal," is the Democrats response to President Donald Trump's criticism of Obama-era policies, as they hope to reconnect with working-class voters whose frustrations helped drive their support for Trump.

 

Can you believe it? have they lost their minds? When lies, hate, and intolerance fails... maybe listening to real working Americans might work? Crooked Hillary is going back in the woods. No money to be found in listening. 

 

From The New Deal to the Better Deal... where will this lead? 

 

Will truth fracture the democratic party? Can the democrats ever regain the respect from the basket of deplorables? or has that bridge burned to the ground? 

 

Republican House, Republican Senate, Republican President, special elections = sweep 4-0

 

ouch


What is this Fixation within the current Iteration of the Republican Party with - Reliving the Past?

 

Trumps only Happy when he's in front of a Crowd telling them about his great ( and only ) Victory - back in November 2016......................he even used a Boy Scout Jamboree to Beat Down Hillary Clinton ( WHO ) and tout his Glorious Victory & Rise to Power - a group BTW consisting of American Youth ages 11 to 18.....................Autocratic Narcissistic Leader preaching to young boys in tan uniforms about his Greatest Past Achievements conjurs up images - most of the worlds adults would rather not be reminded of 

 

Now we have another post attempting to recreate that one Joyous Moment the Republicans could legitimately celebrate but one that hasn't been repeated since......................

 

 

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@mickstuder wrote:

@Fishslayer666 wrote:

Imagine that old bag Pelosi and Chuckie actually trying something positive .... 

 

Sen. Chuck Schumer, Rep. Nancy Pelosi and other Democratic lawmakers are scheduled to speak about their new economic platform.

Their plan, "A Better Deal," is the Democrats response to President Donald Trump's criticism of Obama-era policies, as they hope to reconnect with working-class voters whose frustrations helped drive their support for Trump.

 

Can you believe it? have they lost their minds? When lies, hate, and intolerance fails... maybe listening to real working Americans might work? Crooked Hillary is going back in the woods. No money to be found in listening. 

 

From The New Deal to the Better Deal... where will this lead? 

 

Will truth fracture the democratic party? Can the democrats ever regain the respect from the basket of deplorables? or has that bridge burned to the ground? 

 

Republican House, Republican Senate, Republican President, special elections = sweep 4-0

 

ouch


What is this Fixation within the current Iteration of the Republican Party with - Reliving the Past?

 

Trumps only Happy when he's in front of a Crowd telling them about his great ( and only ) Victory - back in November 2016......................he even used a Boy Scout Jamboree to Beat Down Hillary Clinton ( WHO ) and tout his Glorious Victory & Rise to Power - a group BTW consisting of American Youth ages 11 to 18.....................Autocratic Narcissistic Leader preaching to young boys in tan uniforms about his Greatest Past Achievements conjurs up images - most of the worlds adults would rather not be reminded of 

 

Now we have another post attempting to recreate that one Joyous Moment the Republicans could legitimately celebrate but one that hasn't been repeated since......................

 

 


Surely you know that they have lost - big time. Surely you have seen Dem leaders talking about their need for a new message.

 

And all of that has nothing to do with the President being very comfortable among the people of our nation.

 

Your reference to Hitler is offensive. The BSA is a wonderful group that has done much for the youth of America for many, many years.

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Well no quotes from any republicans that I posted .... they were all "your people". You gotta own the party lepers, they're people too. Get 'em healed, fix your party, join the country.

 

Time to bring it on back.... bring it on back to me. A little Sam Cooke philosophy. 

 

Me = America


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@Fishslayer666 wrote:

@mickstuder

 

Well no quotes from any republicans that I posted ....


Can't say as I blame you - there isn;t much any Republican has said in the last 7 months that is worth quoting......................well unless you like the Kind of Stuff that comes from the Mouth of the Guy Trump Hired to be his Director of Communications for the United States Whitehouse while at the same time - telling the World - Americans are Crying Out For GOD 

 

 

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What is this Fixation within the current Iteration of the Republican Party with - Reliving the Past?

 

Trumps only Happy when he's in front of a Crowd telling them about his great ( and only ) Victory - back in November 2016......................he even used a Boy Scout Jamboree to Beat Down Hillary Clinton ( WHO ) and tout his Glorious Victory & Rise to Power - a group BTW consisting of American Youth ages 11 to 18.....................Autocratic Narcissistic Leader preaching to young boys in tan uniforms about his Greatest Past Achievements conjurs up images - most of the worlds adults would rather not be reminded of 

 

Now we have another post attempting to recreate that one Joyous Moment the Republicans could legitimately celebrate but one that hasn't been repeated since......................

 

 


 

When you have both houses and the presidency yet cannot govern, you look fondly on the days when you only had to be against things in order to give the impression you can govern.  They long for the days when they could put their entire party platform on two bumper stickers.  Crooked Hillary and Repeal Obamacare. 

 

History has proved the first to be false after multiple investigations, and the second  so unpopular it was political suicide. 

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@Richva wrote:


What is this Fixation within the current Iteration of the Republican Party with - Reliving the Past?

 

Trumps only Happy when he's in front of a Crowd telling them about his great ( and only ) Victory - back in November 2016......................he even used a Boy Scout Jamboree to Beat Down Hillary Clinton ( WHO ) and tout his Glorious Victory & Rise to Power - a group BTW consisting of American Youth ages 11 to 18.....................Autocratic Narcissistic Leader preaching to young boys in tan uniforms about his Greatest Past Achievements conjurs up images - most of the worlds adults would rather not be reminded of 

 

Now we have another post attempting to recreate that one Joyous Moment the Republicans could legitimately celebrate but one that hasn't been repeated since......................

 

 


 

When you have both houses and the presidency yet cannot govern, you look fondly on the days when you only had to be against things in order to give the impression you can govern.  They long for the days when they could put their entire party platform on two bumper stickers.  Crooked Hillary and Repeal Obamacare. 

 

History has proved the first to be false after multiple investigations, and the second  so unpopular it was political suicide. 


What does that mean? Have the Dems not been losing big time. Are they not looking for a new "message".

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“When you lose to somebody who has 40% popularity, you don’t blame other things — Comey, Russia — you blame yourself,” Schumer told the Washington Post.

 

New Reality show ? Then we have... 

 

Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer of New York is leading the charge after he dissed the losing Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton over the weekend.

 

Now he's shooting the wounded. Seems Chuckie is a bit worried and maybe sees the writing on the wall. Possibly he'll live it up a bit,  like Obama is doing.

 

Even so, the Democrats’ problem is less the message than the messenger. The 66-year-old Schumer, who has spent many of his 36 years in Congress tirelessly working for this Wall Street constituents and donors, is hardly convincing as a firebrand progressive.

Nor does his advocacy for the “simple folk” come across as authentic in a politician better known for his hobnobbing with royalty in the stratospheric social circles he frequents in New York’s version of Camelot. The New York Post reported Schumer’s cavorting in the Hamptons earlier this month with Kushner, Ivanka Trump, David Koch and Steven Spielberg at a party hosted by Washington Post heiress Lally Weymouth. The paper all but invited readers to pin the “hypocrite” label on him.

 

Chuckie is gonna do deals... he too is a master... er, um, legislator. At least the Bern is bold... you gotta give 'em that, even if he is "lost in space".  Lord help the democrratic guys and gals who are mostly newly weds and nearly deads. The face of the democrats today... 

 

Debbie 

Hillary 

Liz

The Bern

Chuckie 

Pelosi 

Howlin' Howie

Shot gun Joe Biden

Al Sharpton

 

Play ball!

Al The sky is fallin' Gore

 

 

Is there any reasonable democrats left besides Joe Manchin? or have you forced them all, to fall on their sword? 

 

 

 

 


Libs are nuttier than squirrel poop
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Fishslayer666 wrote IP
The New York Post reported Schumer’s cavorting in the Hamptons earlier this month with Kushner, Ivanka Trump, David Koch and Steven Spielberg at a party hosted by Washington Post heiress Lally Weymouth. The paper all but invited readers to pin the “hypocrite” label on him.

 


Your point is??? A leading Democrat accepts an invitation to meet with Republicans, and this makes him a "hypocrite"? What does that make the Republicans at the fest? "Unclean"?
The  neoGOPers have refused to do ANYTHING that requires a single Democratic vote for the last several decades, spending the last 8 years living up their vow that they would do everything possible to make the President fail, no matter what damage that did to the Nation.
They were very successful, preventing the recovery from the rRepublican engineered worst economic disaster the country has experienced since the last Republican engineered economic disaster, and keeping us the only industrialized Nation to so undervalue their citizens they will not consider health care a basic human right. NeoRepublicans cannot govern because they can only think of the interests of their owners at the top of the 1% and therefore reject anything that benefits the bottom 99%. When all you do is stop progress you can conceal your true motives, but now it's ALL their game, and their veniality and rapacity cannot be disguised.

 

 


 

 


 

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Total and complete deflection. Y'all have nada.... zilch, nothing, zero. Stuck on Trump. Record got a skip. Rinse-lather-repeat .... you need to wash that man right out of your hair. Please go have a shirley temple and chill.

A few names is all I ask.... this isn't about Trump, this is about the survival of the Democratic party. Let it go... set yourselves free, be honest with yourself, embrasse reality, get in touch with the inner you.

You party is failing. Desperation is in the air. Call a life line. The party is going down in flames. Dive-dive-dive! Who y'all got who's with the salt in their grub?

Names... just a few names. Give us someone!

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Total and complete deflection. Y'all have nada.... zilch, nothing, zero. Stuck on Trump. Record got a skip. Rinse-lather-repeat .... you need to wash that man right out of your hair. Please go have a shirley temple and chill.

A few names is all I ask.... this isn't about Trump, this is about the survival of the Democratic party. Let it go... set yourselves free, be honest with yourself, embrasse reality, get in touch with the inner you.

You party is failing. Desperation is in the air. Call a life line. The party is going down in flames. Dive-dive-dive! Who y'all got who's with the salt in their grub?

Names... just a few names. Give us someone!

Records Not Skipping - the Trump Cosa Nostra just keeps bumping into the Turn-table....................Not Important

 

1.

2. 

  • August 8, 1974: Nixon delivers his resignation speech in front of a nationally televised audience.
  • August 9, 1974: Nixon resigns from office. Gerald Ford becomes president.

Do The Math.......................................The Republican Dams are starting to show signs of more & more cracks - you asked for names - here's 5 for starters 

 

1. Graham 

 

2. Collins 

 

3. Murkowski 

 

4. McCain 

 

5. Flake 

 

( " China if You're Listening - Get Trumps Tax Returns " )

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