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A Canadian...

 

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Plus, they ALL have healthcare with no premiums, no deductibles, no co-payments -- no out of pockets. No searching the The Exchanges for private health insurance plans, trying to decide which ones they might be able to afford.

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Thanks to the first stimulus bill we have people that are making more for not working than they were working.
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True, and here's why...


Our leaders in Washington are stingy when it comes to the minimum wage.


Three and a half years of Trump and not once was the minimum wage increased even though inflation goes up every year.


Obama had eight years to raise the minimum wage. Nothing.


There has been a steady erosion of our more than 80-year-old New Deal safety net and the decades of attacks on the idea of welfare, capped by Bill Clinton’s 1996 reform bill he signed into law with support of many Congressional Democrats, including our presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden.


Our unemployment Insurance program is in far worse shape than it was ten years ago.


Most people’s experiences with the stinginess of our unemployment systems have conditioned themselves to assume that we’re not eligible and that we should be discouraged from applying, even under desperate circumstances.


In 2016 the percentage of unemployed workers receiving unemployment insurance had dropped to a record low 27 percent which means the majority of people out of work don't collect unemployment insurance.


For many workers today it's a stark choice - return to work and face a deadly virus or stay home and risk losing income.

 

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If you stand by the link you stand by my post because it is from the link. The truth hurts but neither you nor I can change it.

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john258 posted..

No you are not correct. Re read you support article. It clearly states that if a person turns down a job they can loose their unemployment benefits.

What really happened here is the Co was paying such low wages no one wanted any part of working for therm as they could get more money with other employers so were going to other employers. It looks like the State agrees with what I said as they did not to seek to end their unemployment benefits.

We know far right Reb. would favor no minimum wage and would pay $1.00 per hour if they could. The far right has always opposed paying workers a living wage, and that is why they always oppose what the Dems offer as increases to the M wage. That will never change under Trump as Trump has cheated everyone worker, supplier, govt. who dealt with him.

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I stand by the link and not your post. Your post does not make sense. Your post ignores facts and what has happened.. and is happening...facts matter.

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"An unintended consequence, however, was that roughly 40% of workers made less in their jobs than they would on the new unemployment, according to national data gathered by Williams at the Center for Research On the Wisconsin Economy.

In certain states, the unemployment boost is more pronounced. More than 50% of people who are on unemployment and the additional $600 from the CARES Act in states like Arizona, Kansas and Montana would earn more than if they were working, Williams found."

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No you are not correct. Re read you support article. It clearly states that if a person turns down a job they can loose their unemployment benefits.

What really happened here is the Co was paying such low wages no one wanted any part of working for therm as they could get more money with other employers so were going to other employers. It looks like the State agrees with what I said as they did not to seek to end their unemployment benefits.

We know far right Reb. would favor no minimum wage and would pay $1.00 per hour if they could. The far right has always opposed paying workers a living wage, and that is why they always oppose what the Dems offer as increases to the M wage. That will never change under Trump as Trump has cheated everyone worker, supplier, govt. who dealt with him.

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Kid wrote IP : My question was and is why make it more advantages to not work?



Olderscout66 posted....Answer is THEY DIDN'T.

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Please read my post and it will show you are wrong...facts show that.
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Employers struggle to compete with $600 coronavirus unemployment payments

https://abcnews.go.com/Business/employers-struggle-compete-600-unemployment-payments/story?id=708006...

As a producer of personal protective equipment, Carl Livesay was eager to rehire his 60 employees and get operations up and running at the Baltimore-based manufacturer Maryland Thermoform Corporation once its forgivable government loan came through.

But with some workers earning more staying home because of the enhanced unemployment benefits provided by the CARES Act, the company has struggled to restore its headcount -- putting it at risk of violating the terms of its stimulus loan through the Paycheck Protection Program, which calls for employers to retain three-quarters of their payroll.

"It's been very difficult to get some people to return to work," Livesay, the vice president of operations for Maryland Thermoform Corporation, told ABC News. "In some cases, depending on what their compensation was, they make more money with unemployment and the federal stipend of $600 a week."

MORE: Much-anticipated 'forgiveness' guidelines for PPP loans set to be unveiled
"There are significant unintended consequences," Livesay, who is also advising Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan on reopening the state's economy, said of PPP. "I'm hoping that they give us some extra time to get up to full staff. We're interviewing three to five people a day for jobs we have open, and we can't even get them to show up for interviews."

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As a producer of personal protective equipment, Carl Livesay was eager to rehire his 60 employees and get operations up and running at the Baltimore-based manufacturer Maryland Thermoform Corporation once its forgivable government loan came through.

But with some workers earning more staying home because of the enhanced unemployment benefits provided by the CARES Act, the company has struggled to restore its headcount -- putting it at risk of violating the terms of its stimulus loan through the Paycheck Protection Program, which calls for employers to retain three-quarters of their payroll.

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"It's been very difficult to get some people to return to work," Livesay, the vice president of operations for Maryland Thermoform Corporation, told ABC News. "In some cases, depending on what their compensation was, they make more money with unemployment and the federal stipend of $600 a week."

MORE: Much-anticipated 'forgiveness' guidelines for PPP loans set to be unveiled
"There are significant unintended consequences," Livesay, who is also advising Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan on reopening the state's economy, said of PPP. "I'm hoping that they give us some extra time to get up to full staff. We're interviewing three to five people a day for jobs we have open, and we can't even get them to show up for interviews."

Tune into ABC at 1 p.m. ET and ABC News Live at 4 p.m. ET every weekday for special coverage of the novel coronavirus with the full ABC News team, including the latest news, context and analysis.

Legally, if someone is offered reemployment and turns it down, they're likely to lose their unemployment insurance. But employers like Livesay are still finding it challenging to bring people back to work because of an unexpected decision: Should they rehire workers who stand to make more money on unemployment?

The Paycheck Protection Program, rolled out in early April, provides small businesses with money to get 75% of their workers back on payroll within eight weeks, while federal pandemic unemployment compensation, which boosts unemployment for every American by $600 per week, was created to protect the over 36 million Americans who can't go back to work.


Michael Dwyer/APA sign announces the closure of the Massachusetts Unemployment Office, Saturday, May 9, 2020, in Boston.A sign announces the closure of the Massachusetts Unemployment Office, Saturday, May 9, 2020, in Boston.
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But across the country, small business owners have found themselves caught in the crosshairs of the two popular government programs.

"PPP is essentially the government providing forgivable loans to keep people on the payroll. [The extra unemployment money] provides an incentive to not have people on the payroll," said Noah Williams, director at the Center for Research On the Wisconsin Economy at the University of Wisconsin.

"They seem pretty clearly in opposition to me," he said.

In an effort to address this, the Small Business Administration recently updated its guidance, allowing businesses to still get their loans forgiven even if laid-off employees decline rehiring offers.

MORE: Nearly 3 million Americans file for unemployment, bringing total to over 36 million
For Shannon Schroeder, owner of The Pilates Studio in Glendale, California, weighing her own businesses financial well-being against that of her employees is one of the hardest decisions she's faced as a small business owner.

She told ABC News even her top instructors, who used to work up to 20 hours a week, are making more money on unemployment than they were working for her.

"And then some of my very part-time teachers are making quite a bit more," Schroeder said of the employees who would only teach a few classes a week. "I'm so grateful that they're being taken care of right now and they're not struggling."

But if the government allows her to reopen, and she decides to do so, she'll have to ask those teachers to forego unemployment and return to work at a business that she says will "be lucky to reopen at 50%." For her teachers, that would mean a decrease in weekly income.


Olivier Douliery/AFP via Getty ImagesA man wearing a face mask walks past a sign "Now Hiring" in front of a store amid the coronavirus pandemic on May 14, 2020. in Arlington, Va.A man wearing a face mask walks past a sign "Now Hiring" in front of a store amid the coronavirus pandemic on May 14, 2020. in Arlington, Va.
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The federal government's $600 weekly unemployment bump was designed to quickly get money out the door and buoy the economy under the pressure of massive, record-breaking job loss. That sum was picked as a flat rate because it would boost the average American worker's wage up to 100%.

Normally, unemployment insurance provides about 45% of wages. In order to keep people safe and at home while trying to stabilize the economy, the CARES Act included a provision to supplement unemployment enough to provide most people 100% of their lost wages.

"Nationally, the average weekly benefit is around $370 a month. The average weekly wage is around $970 a month. So $600 is the difference between the two," Michele Evermore, a senior policy analyst for the National Employment Law Project, told ABC News. "And so $600 was passed to approximate 100% income replacement for a few months while the economy needed to be shut down to deal with the health crisis."

An unintended consequence, however, was that roughly 40% of workers made less in their jobs than they would on the new unemployment, according to national data gathered by Williams at the Center for Research On the Wisconsin Economy.

In certain states, the unemployment boost is more pronounced. More than 50% of people who are on unemployment and the additional $600 from the CARES Act in states like Arizona, Kansas and Montana would earn more than if they were working, Williams found.

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"An unintended consequence, however, was that roughly 40% of workers made less in their jobs than they would on the new unemployment, according to national data gathered by Williams at the Center for Research On the Wisconsin Economy.

In certain states, the unemployment boost is more pronounced. More than 50% of people who are on unemployment and the additional $600 from the CARES Act in states like Arizona, Kansas and Montana would earn more than if they were working, Williams found."

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Kid wrote IP : My question was and is why make it more advantages to not work? 

 

Answer is THEY DIDN'T. If you work the numbers, the extra $600 has to be over 60% of the workers average monthly pay, which is only possible if the worker is paid minimum wage for less than 2080 hours a year. So only the poorest of the WORKING poor could see a max of $90 PER YEAR, and they're smart enough to know if they stay out longer than they have to, their boss will find a replacement, so they won't loll around the house luxuriating on their $7.28/hour when they'd only be making $7.25 going to work.

 

Do REpublicans ever check the math for the tripe their GOPerLords feed them to stoke anger against those at the very bottom of the economic ladder?

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What? My question was and is why make it more advantages to not work? That is happening...some are making more not working than they were working...why would anyone think that's OK. If anyone think that's OK please post as why.

No answer to my question.
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The mortality rate for common sense and decency, traits Republicans absurdly label TDS, is ZERO point ZIP.

 

The mortality rate for ToadWorship in the days of Covid is around 60%. Too bad they infect reasonable people before they die.

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