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@Olderscout66 wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

Liberals don't seem to grasp the concept of uncorroborated.


And Regressives seem to have the same problem with it that Vizzini had with "inconceivable" in Princess Bride.

 

The fact is the Golden Shower is the ONLY thing in the Steele Dossier that has NOT been confirmed. Everything else related to the fact Trump's dealings with Russia represented a clear danger he was COMPROMISED. Trump's actions since becoming ToadPOTUS verify that he IS compromised by Russia.


As a whole, the Steele dossier now appears to be a murky mixture of authentic revelations and repurposed history, likely interspersed with snippets of fiction or disinformation, an Associated Press review finds.

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/some-questions-in-trump-russia-dossier-now-finding-answers/


Really NOT? Here's what the link you provided actually says about the Steele Dossier:

At the vortex of all the arguments is Steele, often described as a buttoned-down, earnest defender of Western interests, who spied on Russia for the British government and later founded a business intelligence firm built on his network of confidential informants.

Steele's 17 memos laid out an extraordinarily detailed narrative of how the Russian government supposedly collaborated with the Trump campaign in an elaborate operation to tilt the 2016 presidential race in his favor.

Some of the dossier's broad threads have now been independently corroborated (there's that word NOT will not admit allpies). U.S. intelligence agencies and the special counsel's investigation into Russian election interference did eventually find that Kremlin-linked operatives ran an elaborate operation to promote Trump and hurt Democratic opponent Hillary Clinton, as the dossier says in its main narrative.

The dossier first told of a clandestine partnership between the Trump campaign and Russian officials in a memo dated June 2016, the month before the FBI began investigating that very possibility.

Steele laid out details of a secret Moscow meeting between the Russians and Trump adviser Carter Page months before FBI suspicions about Page and news reports about just such a meeting forced him to leave the campaign.

The dossier's portrait of a cooperative campaign also has been bolstered by developments it did not specifically foretell: Legal cases and authoritative reporting have exposed Trump's son Donald Jr. and another aide as receptive to Russian overtures to supply dirt on Clinton.

 

So the things that caused Steele to become concerned a CANDIDATE for POTUS had been seriously COMPROMISED by the Russian Government ARE TRUE, which is why the FBI launched an investigation and why Trump and his family need to be tried for TREASON. Nitpicking about trivial other observations in the dossier is only considered reasonable inside the Republibubble.

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The Steele Dossier, as I understand it is along the lines of an intelligence report. 

And it was not the reason for the FISA warrant. That was initiated by Page’s contact with russians. trump was also briefed about russian interference, before he started firing DOJ and FBI intelligence officials...get rid of evidence? trump supporters have no idea of what Mueller has in his possession. That does not dissuade them from attempted cover ups by trump or an attempt to rewrite history. 

Dems are not the ones overreaching or making up reasons for interactions with russia...that factual info already exists. 

 

The Truth will prevail 

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@Olderscout66 wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

Liberals don't seem to grasp the concept of uncorroborated.


And Regressives seem to have the same problem with it that Vizzini had with "inconceivable" in Princess Bride.

 

The fact is the Golden Shower is the ONLY thing in the Steele Dossier that has NOT been confirmed. Everything else related to the fact Trump's dealings with Russia represented a clear danger he was COMPROMISED. Trump's actions since becoming ToadPOTUS verify that he IS compromised by Russia.


As a whole, the Steele dossier now appears to be a murky mixture of authentic revelations and repurposed history, likely interspersed with snippets of fiction or disinformation, an Associated Press review finds.

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/some-questions-in-trump-russia-dossier-now-finding-answers/

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@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

Liberals don't seem to grasp the concept of uncorroborated.


And Regressives seem to have the same problem with it that Vizzini had with "inconceivable" in Princess Bride.

 

The fact is the Golden Shower is the ONLY thing in the Steele Dossier that has NOT been confirmed. Everything else related to the fact Trump's dealings with Russia represented a clear danger he was COMPROMISED. Trump's actions since becoming ToadPOTUS verify that he IS compromised by Russia.

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Liberals don't seem to grasp the concept of uncorroborated.

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@Panjandrum wrote:

NOTHAPPENING:   The Steele Dossier is a paid (by Clinton Foundation) for dossier that has no corroboration for the lies that are in it. A bunch of BS fabricated by the Democrats (as I repeat again)!

 

 

Only the truly naive dismiss the Steele Dossier as fabricated lies. Read this without cherrypicking the parts you like to get a good overview.

 

The Steele Dossier: A Retrospective

https://www.lawfareblog.com/steele-dossier-retrospective


I did read it entirely since I supplied the original link. In fact, the most important part (neglected by liberals) is:

"But much of the reporting simply remains uncorroborated, at least by the yardstick we are using. Most significantly, the dossier reports a “well-developed conspiracy of co-operation between [Trump and his associates] and the Russian leaders...,” including an “intelligence exchange [that] had been running between them for at least 8 years.”

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What is Trump being specifically being investigated for?

 

I believe, in all kindness, the efforts are to help poor dt come to term with his greatest fears.  They are real.

 

Ruling with rats

Ah, the rat system. It is how the po-po and the prosecutors get damning information on defendants, those threatened with prosecution, and all their criminal associates. Flipping rats.

https://www.nationofchange.org/2018/12/15/ruling-with-rats/


Cute, but again - What is Trump being specifically being investigated for?


Mueller's charter was to investigate Russian interference in the 2016 election AND any other crimes they uncovered in the course of that primary line of inquiry.

 

that being the case, lil donny is being investigated for;

OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE

VIOLATION OF CAMPAIGN FINANCE LAWS

LYING TO CONGRESS

LYING TO THE SPECIAL PROSECUTOR (IN WRITING)

ABUSE OF OFFICE

VIOLATION OF THE EMOLUMENTS CLAUSE OF THE CONSTITUTION

SUBORNING PERJURY

 

And that's just what's come out in the process of convicting his top officials and closest associates. Just wait until they drag his kids before a STATE Grand Jury where daddy cannot pardon them.

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NOTHAPPENING:   The Steele Dossier is a paid (by Clinton Foundation) for dossier that has no corroboration for the lies that are in it. A bunch of BS fabricated by the Democrats (as I repeat again)!

 

 

Only the truly naive dismiss the Steele Dossier as fabricated lies. Read this without cherrypicking the parts you like to get a good overview.

 

The Steele Dossier: A Retrospective

https://www.lawfareblog.com/steele-dossier-retrospective

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@Richva wrote:

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@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

You left out a few of the steps prior to Mueller being hired to investigate Trump for colluding with Russia. First of all, Hillary Clinton funded the "Steele Dossier" to justify the FISA warrant to spy on Trump prior to the election. Since no one has made public, any other justification for the FISA warrant, one must assume that there is no other proof! So, bottom line is, a Dem generated document is the trigger for the "witch hunt" that is on for Trump.


You keep skipping over the part where Mueller was hired to look into Russian TAMPERING with the 2016 general election. Not to investigate Trump.  Trump keeps coming into focus because electing him was a top goal of the Russian interference AND people on his campaign keep lying to Congress, the courts, etc. Then are indicted and start talking about how Trump's campaign colluded with the Russians. 

 

I realize your little snowflake is not used to people holding him responsible for his actions.  I have some stock in a Trump casino you can have if it would make you feel better. 


You keep skipping the part where the Clinton Foundation funded the Steele Dossier to justify the spying on Trump and the "collusion with Russia". The entire investigation is a fraud perpetrated by the Democrats.


That is because you are bending the facts on how the funding came about and the role of the Clinton Foundation (none). I would also point out that we are now discovering that the Steele Dossier seems to have been a public service with all the facts it uncovered.  I will await you telling me which fact in the SD is not accurate. 


The Steele Dossier is a paid (by Clinton Foundation) for dossier that has no corroboration for the lies that are in it. A bunch of BS fabricated by the Democrats (as I repeat again)!

 

But much of the reporting simply remains uncorroborated, at least by the yardstick we are using. Most significantly, the dossier reports a “well-developed conspiracy of co-operation between [Trump and his associates] and the Russian leaders...,” including an “intelligence exchange [that] had been running between them for at least 8 years.”

 

https://www.lawfareblog.com/steele-dossier-retrospective

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@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@Richva wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

You left out a few of the steps prior to Mueller being hired to investigate Trump for colluding with Russia. First of all, Hillary Clinton funded the "Steele Dossier" to justify the FISA warrant to spy on Trump prior to the election. Since no one has made public, any other justification for the FISA warrant, one must assume that there is no other proof! So, bottom line is, a Dem generated document is the trigger for the "witch hunt" that is on for Trump.


You keep skipping over the part where Mueller was hired to look into Russian TAMPERING with the 2016 general election. Not to investigate Trump.  Trump keeps coming into focus because electing him was a top goal of the Russian interference AND people on his campaign keep lying to Congress, the courts, etc. Then are indicted and start talking about how Trump's campaign colluded with the Russians. 

 

I realize your little snowflake is not used to people holding him responsible for his actions.  I have some stock in a Trump casino you can have if it would make you feel better. 


You keep skipping the part where the Clinton Foundation funded the Steele Dossier to justify the spying on Trump and the "collusion with Russia". The entire investigation is a fraud perpetrated by the Democrats.


That is because you are bending the facts on how the funding came about and the role of the Clinton Foundation (none). I would also point out that we are now discovering that the Steele Dossier seems to have been a public service with all the facts it uncovered.  I will await you telling me which fact in the SD is not accurate. 

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