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Democrats: Citizenship Means Nothing...

In Face Of Massive Border Crisis, Democrats Tell Americans Citizenship Means Nothing

 
A left-wing mob tore down an American flag and replaced it with a Mexican flag. A gunman attacked an ICE facility. Democrats said nothing.

 

 

A series of remarkable things happened over the weekend—all of them overshadowed by unfortunate tweets from President Trump and the hysterical overreactions they provoked. But these overshadowed events tell us much more about the state of the country than the controversy over Trump’s tweets, and what they reveal isn’t good.

 

On Friday night, a mob of protestors tore down an American flag outside a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement facility in Aurora, Colo., and replaced it with a Mexican flag. Local police stood by and did nothing.

 

The next day, a gunman reportedly associated with Antifa attacked an ICE detention center in Tacoma, Wash., throwing Molotov cocktails and attempting to set fire to a propane tank. He was reportedly killed by police in a gunfight.

 

The attack in Tacoma coincided with left-wing protests at ICE facilities all over the country, prompted by nationwide ICE raids targeting Central American families whom immigration judges have ordered to be deported after reviewing their claims.

 

Protestors on @ICEgov property just pulled down the American flag and replaced it with the Mexican flag. The group by the doors is growing. Though most protestors are still on the street. pic.twitter.com/X2waaFMEOW

— Matt Mauro (@mattmauronews) July 13, 2019

 

If you are a Democrat seeking your party’s nomination for 2020, what’s your response to these events? So far, no Democrat has said anything about the mob in Colorado or the gunman in Washington, but plenty of them have issued statements on the ICE raids and Vice President Mike Pence’s border visit.

 

On Friday, Pence and a group of Republican lawmakers, accompanied by members of the press, visited a pair of immigration detention centers in Texas. Although Pence was blasted by the mainstream media for praising the U.S. Border Patrol, he freely admitted that conditions at the adult facility he visited were unacceptable, and called on Congress to take swift action. “I was not surprised by what I saw,” he said later at a news conference. “I knew we would see a system that was overwhelmed. This is tough stuff.”

 

Julian Castro made the odd assertion that overcrowding at the detention center Pence visited was a result of the Trump administration “slashing aid to Central America and undermining the asylum process.” Sens. Kamala Harris, Elizabeth Warren, and Bernie Sanders all posted messages from the American Civil Liberties Union advising immigrants what to do if ICE shows up at their door. Warren went further, accusing the administration of physically and sexually abusing migrants and vowing to investigate “those responsible” once in office.

 

Never mind that the asylum process has been undermined above all by the sheer numbers of people now claiming asylum. Never mind that those targeted by ICE have had their day in court and been ordered by a judge to leave the country. Never mind that the vice president’s very public visit to the detention centers was above all an indictment of Democratic congressional lawmakers who for months denied that there was a crisis at the border and withheld resources from the federal agencies that said they were overwhelmed.

 

Democrats Are Losing the American Middle

 

What’s most remarkable in all this is that not one Democratic 2020 contender has felt the need to breathe a word about the importance of American citizenship and sovereignty. Not one has issued a word of caution or tried to steer the seething left-wing of their party away from street violence. Not one has acknowledged the importance of enforcing our immigration laws.

 

This is strange. According to a new Gallup poll, nearly a quarter of Americans now say immigration is the most important problem facing the country—the largest share since Gallup began asking the question in 1993. We hold mixed, somewhat incoherent views on the matter. One in three Americans think immigration levels should be decreased, a larger share than think it should be increased, and yet the vast majority (76 percent) think immigration is good for the country.

 

It’s not going to be enough for 2020 Democrats to stick to their rote talking points about the border crisis and the suffering of migrants now in detention, especially since the policies in place are the same ones in place during the Obama administration (including ICE raids targeting Central American families). They don’t realize it yet, but they’re turning off Americans whose votes they need.

 

A recent Axios focus group in Michigan was illuminating on this point. The group consisted of swing voters—Barack Obama voters in 2012 who voted for Trump in 2016 and three who flipped from Mitt Romney to Hillary Clinton. A majority in the group said Trump was handling the border crisis “professionally and responsibly.” Immigration came up repeatedly, and when it did, “Their responses sounded a lot like the ‘America First’ message President Trump has been championing.”

 

They grew animated on the subject of 2020 Democrats offering free health care to illegal immigrants. “Why would you want to give it to another person from a different country for free?” Larry S. asked. “Give them free benefits, this that and the other thing. That is ridiculous,” said Rhonda H. “We need to focus on Americans and not the immigrants,” said Paul T.

 

The upshot here is that Americans are paying attention to immigration and the border in ways the Democrats and the media don’t seem to think they are. What Democratic candidates think they’re conveying—compassion, decency, outrage at injustice—isn’t what many Americans are seeing. They’re seeing a major political party cave to its most extreme elements and align itself with the idea that American sovereignty and citizenship aren’t important, that patriotism is problematic, and that the American people should have no say in who is allowed to enter the country and stay.

 

BY John Daniel-Davidson

 

 

 

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@Roxanna35 wrote:

Having been the target of posters that have told me to move because I don't happen to like the area that I live.
It doesn't surprise me that they have little comprehension as to what is the meaning of Free Speech.
Criticizing anything or a government is the most precious gift in any Democracy. and having that ability being put in danger is the recognition that we in the country do not have a Democracy any longer
As bullies do. they think that by telling people to leave is the way that failings are resolved.
Good luck to them yes it is their country, and they are really burying their country and what this country has always represented.

 


And since most of us come from immigrants I'm sure we've all been told that.  But I also believe that 'free speech' should not be tearing someone else's comment apart cuz they disagree with yours.

 

Pres Trump was right and NOT racist for telling the Hate Squad to leave if all they see in America is hate and nothing good.  When are they actually going to start doing their job instead of making up BS lies when they don't like the President?

 

Now let's see if the Socialist party can answer the following:

I've asked soooo many times if someone who keeps the hate going would post the ACTUAL UNedited quote that Pres Trump said that was 'suppose' to be racist (and please don't pretend like telling the Haters to leave is racist).  Include the VF link or it's just an opinion (I know J understands that).

"The media has one job, and they fail at it every day."

Honored Social Butterfly


@Roxanna35 wrote:

Having been the target of posters that have told me to move because I don't happen to like the area that I live.
It doesn't surprise me that they have little comprehension as to what is the meaning of Free Speech.
Criticizing anything or a government is the most precious gift in any Democracy. and having that ability being put in danger is the recognition that we in the country do not have a Democracy any longer
As bullies do. they think that by telling people to leave is the way that failings are resolved.
Good luck to them yes it is their country, and they are really burying their country and what this country has always represented.

 


If you hate the area you are in and some people are suggesting you should just leave, they are your friends giving you good advice.  Why would anyone stay in a place they HATE?

Gold Conversationalist


@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@Roxanna35 wrote:

Having been the target of posters that have told me to move because I don't happen to like the area that I live.
It doesn't surprise me that they have little comprehension as to what is the meaning of Free Speech.
Criticizing anything or a government is the most precious gift in any Democracy. and having that ability being put in danger is the recognition that we in the country do not have a Democracy any longer
As bullies do. they think that by telling people to leave is the way that failings are resolved.
Good luck to them yes it is their country, and they are really burying their country and what this country has always represented.

 


If you hate the area you are in and some people are suggesting you should just leave, they are your friends giving you good advice.  Why would anyone stay in a place they HATE?


That could be true RK321, no offense, but you know how sometimes someone might get tired of someone complaining all the time (maybe about the same thing) and so they might say "Well just leave" or whatever.  They might even say it when they hear it 1 or 2 times.

 

“You must be the change you wish to see in the world.”  Gandhi

Honored Social Butterfly


@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@Roxanna35 wrote:

Having been the target of posters that have told me to move because I don't happen to like the area that I live.
It doesn't surprise me that they have little comprehension as to what is the meaning of Free Speech.
Criticizing anything or a government is the most precious gift in any Democracy. and having that ability being put in danger is the recognition that we in the country do not have a Democracy any longer
As bullies do. they think that by telling people to leave is the way that failings are resolved.
Good luck to them yes it is their country, and they are really burying their country and what this country has always represented.

 


If you hate the area you are in and some people are suggesting you should just leave, they are your friends giving you good advice.  Why would anyone stay in a place they HATE?


Hate to break the news to you but that is what Trump told the 4 congress women yesterday.

Honored Social Butterfly

john258 posted..

Hate to break the news to you but that is what Trump told the 4 congress women yesterday.

===================================================

He did not...time you read what he told them. I have a thread on that if you care to read what he said.
Honored Social Butterfly


@KidBoy2 wrote:
john258 posted..

Hate to break the news to you but that is what Trump told the 4 congress women yesterday.

===================================================

He did not...time you read what he told them. I have a thread on that if you care to read what he said.

Experts proved correct again.

Honored Social Butterfly


@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

 


If you hate the area you are in and some people are suggesting you should just leave, they are your friends giving you good advice.  Why would anyone stay in a place they HATE?


Necessity!!!!!!!!!!

no name
Honored Social Butterfly


@Richva wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@Richva wrote:

Who turned up the volume on the propagand machine the last few days? Is Trump in that much trouble with the American people?




He is in that much trouble with the radical left!  His supporters, not so much.


Yes but the KKK and American Nazi Party only have so many members. 


That is why the left supports the KKK, Nazi Party, and Antifa?  I don't know any conservatives that support them - only liberals!

Honored Social Butterfly


@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@Richva wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@Richva wrote:

Who turned up the volume on the propagand machine the last few days? Is Trump in that much trouble with the American people?




He is in that much trouble with the radical left!  His supporters, not so much.


Yes but the KKK and American Nazi Party only have so many members. 


That is why the left supports the KKK, Nazi Party, and Antifa?  I don't know any conservatives that support them - only liberals!


You mean...........Trump is no longer considered  a Conservative?

Honored Social Butterfly


@Richva wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@Richva wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@Richva wrote:

Who turned up the volume on the propagand machine the last few days? Is Trump in that much trouble with the American people?




He is in that much trouble with the radical left!  His supporters, not so much.


Yes but the KKK and American Nazi Party only have so many members. 


That is why the left supports the KKK, Nazi Party, and Antifa?  I don't know any conservatives that support them - only liberals!


You mean...........Trump is no longer considered  a Conservative?



@Richva wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@Richva wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@Richva wrote:

Who turned up the volume on the propagand machine the last few days? Is Trump in that much trouble with the American people?




He is in that much trouble with the radical left!  His supporters, not so much.


Yes but the KKK and American Nazi Party only have so many members. 


That is why the left supports the KKK, Nazi Party, and Antifa?  I don't know any conservatives that support them - only liberals!


You mean...........Trump is no longer considered  a Conservative?


Trump doesn't support the KKK, Nazi Party, or Antifa.  You are losing the battle when you call him a supporter of those attributes the left loves.

Honored Social Butterfly


@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@Richva wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@Richva wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@Richva wrote:

Who turned up the volume on the propagand machine the last few days? Is Trump in that much trouble with the American people?




He is in that much trouble with the radical left!  His supporters, not so much.


Yes but the KKK and American Nazi Party only have so many members. 


That is why the left supports the KKK, Nazi Party, and Antifa?  I don't know any conservatives that support them - only liberals!


You mean...........Trump is no longer considered  a Conservative?



@Richva wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@Richva wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@Richva wrote:

Who turned up the volume on the propagand machine the last few days? Is Trump in that much trouble with the American people?




He is in that much trouble with the radical left!  His supporters, not so much.


Yes but the KKK and American Nazi Party only have so many members. 


That is why the left supports the KKK, Nazi Party, and Antifa?  I don't know any conservatives that support them - only liberals!


You mean...........Trump is no longer considered  a Conservative?


Trump doesn't support the KKK, Nazi Party, or Antifa.  You are losing the battle when you call him a supporter of those attributes the left loves.


No .......... trump doesn't support the Antifa, but he certainly supports the KKK and the Nazi Party, there's that "fine people" thing. Many Conservatives have become Trumpservatives.


Man learns from history that man learns nothing from history.
Honored Social Butterfly


@ChasKy53 wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@Richva wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@Richva wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@Richva wrote:

Who turned up the volume on the propagand machine the last few days? Is Trump in that much trouble with the American people?




He is in that much trouble with the radical left!  His supporters, not so much.


Yes but the KKK and American Nazi Party only have so many members. 


That is why the left supports the KKK, Nazi Party, and Antifa?  I don't know any conservatives that support them - only liberals!


You mean...........Trump is no longer considered  a Conservative?



@Richva wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@Richva wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@Richva wrote:

Who turned up the volume on the propagand machine the last few days? Is Trump in that much trouble with the American people?




He is in that much trouble with the radical left!  His supporters, not so much.


Yes but the KKK and American Nazi Party only have so many members. 


That is why the left supports the KKK, Nazi Party, and Antifa?  I don't know any conservatives that support them - only liberals!


You mean...........Trump is no longer considered  a Conservative?


Trump doesn't support the KKK, Nazi Party, or Antifa.  You are losing the battle when you call him a supporter of those attributes the left loves.


No .......... trump doesn't support the Antifa, but he certainly supports the KKK and the Nazi Party, there's that "fine people" thing. Many Conservatives have become Trumpservatives.


Trump doesn't support the Antifa liberal thugs, the KKK, or the Nazi party.  That hate belongs to the Democrats who hate this country, hate the Constitution, hate the President, hate our way of life.  Just take Trump's advice and just leave.

Honored Social Butterfly

@NOTHAPPENING 

Were those comments about the hate of Democrats based on facts, or on personal opinions?

And why should we leave?

Honored Social Butterfly


@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@Richva wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@Richva wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@Richva wrote:

Who turned up the volume on the propagand machine the last few days? Is Trump in that much trouble with the American people?




He is in that much trouble with the radical left!  His supporters, not so much.


Yes but the KKK and American Nazi Party only have so many members. 


That is why the left supports the KKK, Nazi Party, and Antifa?  I don't know any conservatives that support them - only liberals!


You mean...........Trump is no longer considered  a Conservative?



@Richva wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@Richva wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@Richva wrote:

Who turned up the volume on the propagand machine the last few days? Is Trump in that much trouble with the American people?




He is in that much trouble with the radical left!  His supporters, not so much.


Yes but the KKK and American Nazi Party only have so many members. 


That is why the left supports the KKK, Nazi Party, and Antifa?  I don't know any conservatives that support them - only liberals!


You mean...........Trump is no longer considered  a Conservative?


Trump doesn't support the KKK, Nazi Party, or Antifa.  You are losing the battle when you call him a supporter of those attributes the left loves.


No .......... trump doesn't support the Antifa, but he certainly supports the KKK and the Nazi Party, there's that "fine people" thing. Many Conservatives have become Trumpservatives.


Trump doesn't support the Antifa liberal thugs, the KKK, or the Nazi party.  That hate belongs to the Democrats who hate this country, hate the Constitution, hate the President, hate our way of life.  Just take Trump's advice and just leave.


 

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Do I despise the racist tRump, and his way of life?

 

Yep.

 

Am I leaving?

 

Nope - not ever - not even after hell freezes over.

 

44>dolt45
Honored Social Butterfly


@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@Richva wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@Richva wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@Richva wrote:

Who turned up the volume on the propagand machine the last few days? Is Trump in that much trouble with the American people?




He is in that much trouble with the radical left!  His supporters, not so much.


Yes but the KKK and American Nazi Party only have so many members. 


That is why the left supports the KKK, Nazi Party, and Antifa?  I don't know any conservatives that support them - only liberals!


You mean...........Trump is no longer considered  a Conservative?



@Richva wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@Richva wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@Richva wrote:

Who turned up the volume on the propagand machine the last few days? Is Trump in that much trouble with the American people?




He is in that much trouble with the radical left!  His supporters, not so much.


Yes but the KKK and American Nazi Party only have so many members. 


That is why the left supports the KKK, Nazi Party, and Antifa?  I don't know any conservatives that support them - only liberals!


You mean...........Trump is no longer considered  a Conservative?


Trump doesn't support the KKK, Nazi Party, or Antifa.  You are losing the battle when you call him a supporter of those attributes the left loves.


Trump father was a member of the KKK, and Trump supports the KKK as he needs them as part of the White Nationalist movement so he can make the US in to what Nazi Germany was. Facts always confuse the far right. Trump then goes one step further. Trump ran his business as a mob and followed mob rules, and laws. He now is adding that part to the Nazi part so we will have a new Dictator Trump approach. It might me like NK, but lets hope the thinking people win out and it never comes to that. Far right prove the experts correct again.

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