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Democrats: Citizenship Means Nothing...

In Face Of Massive Border Crisis, Democrats Tell Americans Citizenship Means Nothing

 
A left-wing mob tore down an American flag and replaced it with a Mexican flag. A gunman attacked an ICE facility. Democrats said nothing.

 

 

A series of remarkable things happened over the weekend—all of them overshadowed by unfortunate tweets from President Trump and the hysterical overreactions they provoked. But these overshadowed events tell us much more about the state of the country than the controversy over Trump’s tweets, and what they reveal isn’t good.

 

On Friday night, a mob of protestors tore down an American flag outside a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement facility in Aurora, Colo., and replaced it with a Mexican flag. Local police stood by and did nothing.

 

The next day, a gunman reportedly associated with Antifa attacked an ICE detention center in Tacoma, Wash., throwing Molotov cocktails and attempting to set fire to a propane tank. He was reportedly killed by police in a gunfight.

 

The attack in Tacoma coincided with left-wing protests at ICE facilities all over the country, prompted by nationwide ICE raids targeting Central American families whom immigration judges have ordered to be deported after reviewing their claims.

 

Protestors on @ICEgov property just pulled down the American flag and replaced it with the Mexican flag. The group by the doors is growing. Though most protestors are still on the street. pic.twitter.com/X2waaFMEOW

— Matt Mauro (@mattmauronews) July 13, 2019

 

If you are a Democrat seeking your party’s nomination for 2020, what’s your response to these events? So far, no Democrat has said anything about the mob in Colorado or the gunman in Washington, but plenty of them have issued statements on the ICE raids and Vice President Mike Pence’s border visit.

 

On Friday, Pence and a group of Republican lawmakers, accompanied by members of the press, visited a pair of immigration detention centers in Texas. Although Pence was blasted by the mainstream media for praising the U.S. Border Patrol, he freely admitted that conditions at the adult facility he visited were unacceptable, and called on Congress to take swift action. “I was not surprised by what I saw,” he said later at a news conference. “I knew we would see a system that was overwhelmed. This is tough stuff.”

 

Julian Castro made the odd assertion that overcrowding at the detention center Pence visited was a result of the Trump administration “slashing aid to Central America and undermining the asylum process.” Sens. Kamala Harris, Elizabeth Warren, and Bernie Sanders all posted messages from the American Civil Liberties Union advising immigrants what to do if ICE shows up at their door. Warren went further, accusing the administration of physically and sexually abusing migrants and vowing to investigate “those responsible” once in office.

 

Never mind that the asylum process has been undermined above all by the sheer numbers of people now claiming asylum. Never mind that those targeted by ICE have had their day in court and been ordered by a judge to leave the country. Never mind that the vice president’s very public visit to the detention centers was above all an indictment of Democratic congressional lawmakers who for months denied that there was a crisis at the border and withheld resources from the federal agencies that said they were overwhelmed.

 

Democrats Are Losing the American Middle

 

What’s most remarkable in all this is that not one Democratic 2020 contender has felt the need to breathe a word about the importance of American citizenship and sovereignty. Not one has issued a word of caution or tried to steer the seething left-wing of their party away from street violence. Not one has acknowledged the importance of enforcing our immigration laws.

 

This is strange. According to a new Gallup poll, nearly a quarter of Americans now say immigration is the most important problem facing the country—the largest share since Gallup began asking the question in 1993. We hold mixed, somewhat incoherent views on the matter. One in three Americans think immigration levels should be decreased, a larger share than think it should be increased, and yet the vast majority (76 percent) think immigration is good for the country.

 

It’s not going to be enough for 2020 Democrats to stick to their rote talking points about the border crisis and the suffering of migrants now in detention, especially since the policies in place are the same ones in place during the Obama administration (including ICE raids targeting Central American families). They don’t realize it yet, but they’re turning off Americans whose votes they need.

 

A recent Axios focus group in Michigan was illuminating on this point. The group consisted of swing voters—Barack Obama voters in 2012 who voted for Trump in 2016 and three who flipped from Mitt Romney to Hillary Clinton. A majority in the group said Trump was handling the border crisis “professionally and responsibly.” Immigration came up repeatedly, and when it did, “Their responses sounded a lot like the ‘America First’ message President Trump has been championing.”

 

They grew animated on the subject of 2020 Democrats offering free health care to illegal immigrants. “Why would you want to give it to another person from a different country for free?” Larry S. asked. “Give them free benefits, this that and the other thing. That is ridiculous,” said Rhonda H. “We need to focus on Americans and not the immigrants,” said Paul T.

 

The upshot here is that Americans are paying attention to immigration and the border in ways the Democrats and the media don’t seem to think they are. What Democratic candidates think they’re conveying—compassion, decency, outrage at injustice—isn’t what many Americans are seeing. They’re seeing a major political party cave to its most extreme elements and align itself with the idea that American sovereignty and citizenship aren’t important, that patriotism is problematic, and that the American people should have no say in who is allowed to enter the country and stay.

 

BY John Daniel-Davidson

 

 

 

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Immigrants are not a race of people but the only immigrants Trump is targeting are  immigrants of color. Nobody is hunting down, say, Norwegians who have overstayed their visas. 

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@Richva wrote:

Immigrants are not a race of people but the only immigrants Trump is targeting are  immigrants of color. Nobody is hunting down, say, Norwegians who have overstayed their visas. 


Another perfect example of using the race card for EVERYTHING!

 

 

 

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@jimc91 wrote:

@Richva wrote:

Immigrants are not a race of people but the only immigrants Trump is targeting are  immigrants of color. Nobody is hunting down, say, Norwegians who have overstayed their visas. 


Another perfect example of using the race card for EVERYTHING!


Nope .... it's the perfect example of using the logic and reason card jimc91!

DUMP TRUMP AND DITCH MITCH TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!
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@myexper wrote:

@jimc91 wrote:

@Richva wrote:

Immigrants are not a race of people but the only immigrants Trump is targeting are  immigrants of color. Nobody is hunting down, say, Norwegians who have overstayed their visas. 


Another perfect example of using the race card for EVERYTHING!


Nope .... it's the perfect example of using the logic and reason card jimc91!


So where is your VF Link since you 'demand' one from others?

 

"The media has one job, and they fail at it every day."

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@cm9889168 wrote:

@myexper wrote:

@jimc91 wrote:

@Richva wrote:

Immigrants are not a race of people but the only immigrants Trump is targeting are  immigrants of color. Nobody is hunting down, say, Norwegians who have overstayed their visas. 


Another perfect example of using the race card for EVERYTHING!


Nope .... it's the perfect example of using the logic and reason card jimc91!


So where is your VF Link since you 'demand' one from others?

 

"The media has one job, and they fail at it every day."


"Demanding" the VF Link for any and all comments is your game cm9889168.

But when links are requested for you to provide, you fail to do so thus disingenuously exempting yourself from the very verification you demand of others.

DUMP TRUMP AND DITCH MITCH TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!
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@myexper wrote:

@cm9889168 wrote:

@myexper wrote:

@jimc91 wrote:

@Richva wrote:

Immigrants are not a race of people but the only immigrants Trump is targeting are  immigrants of color. Nobody is hunting down, say, Norwegians who have overstayed their visas. 


Another perfect example of using the race card for EVERYTHING!


Nope .... it's the perfect example of using the logic and reason card jimc91!


So where is your VF Link since you 'demand' one from others?

 

"The media has one job, and they fail at it every day."


"Demanding" the VF Link for any and all comments is your game cm9889168.

But when links are requested for you to provide, you fail to do so thus disingenuously exempting yourself from the very verification you demand of others.


Are you paying attention Myexper?  

In your own words:

"Any VF links to support that absurd accusation jimc91?

So, as you lectured another poster .....

Well now, there you go again jimc91.

 

Making accusations against someone and not offering one single piece of evidence to support your claim..."

 

Let's just keep going back and forth ~ you don't leave them ~ we don't leave them ~ so all we have are opinions. 

There is one Liberal enabler who NEVER leaves a VF link and will 'claim' it is the truth, so how about working on whoever claims their opinion is the truth first.

 

“The media has one job, but they fail at it every day”

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@cm9889168 wrote:

@myexper wrote:

@cm9889168 wrote:

@myexper wrote:

@jimc91 wrote:

@Richva wrote:

Immigrants are not a race of people but the only immigrants Trump is targeting are  immigrants of color. Nobody is hunting down, say, Norwegians who have overstayed their visas. 


Another perfect example of using the race card for EVERYTHING!


Nope .... it's the perfect example of using the logic and reason card jimc91!


So where is your VF Link since you 'demand' one from others?

 

"The media has one job, and they fail at it every day."


"Demanding" the VF Link for any and all comments is your game cm9889168.

But when links are requested for you to provide, you fail to do so thus disingenuously exempting yourself from the very verification you demand of others.


Are you paying attention Myexper

Yup ..... I am paying attention to absurd claims made by Right Wing posters as well as their inability to support them with any VF Links!

 

In your own words:

 

"Any VF links to support that absurd accusation jimc91?

So, as you lectured another poster .....

Well now, there you go again jimc91.

 

Making accusations against someone and not offering one single piece of evidence to support your claim..."

Actually, those were the words that the poster used to criticize another poster. I merely played those words back to the original poster who excluded himself from the very standards he saw fit to impose on other posters.

 

Let's just keep going back and forth ~ you don't leave them

Not true .... Because you chose to ignore them does not mean that they were not there.

 

~ we don't leave them ~

Not "we" ...... just yourself.

 

 

so all we have are opinions. 

Again, not "we" .... just yourself.

 

There is one Liberal enabler who NEVER leaves a VF link and will 'claim' it is the truth, so how about working on whoever claims their opinion is the truth first.

Nope, I prefer facts when stating the truth.

 

“The media has one job, but they fail at it every day”

Not all media ..... just Fox News!


 

DUMP TRUMP AND DITCH MITCH TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!
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@jimc91 

So maybe add to your posted statement:

”Where do you go if you cheat on your taxes, loan applications, or money laundering”?

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@williamb39198 wrote:

@jimc91 

So maybe add to your posted statement:

”Where do you go if you cheat on your taxes, loan applications, or money laundering”?


Well now, there you go again...

 

Making accusation against someone and not offering one single piece of evident to support you claim...  

 

This is still America where we live by the rule of law and due process.  That law places the burden of proof on the accuser.  And here you are offering none.  

 

I get it, you just don't like President Trump but forgive me, we don't toss out due process because you are angry about loosing the 2016 election.

 

Maybe tomorrow wil be a better day, I'll have a good thought for you @williamb39198 .

 

 

VIMTSTL
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@jimc91 wrote:

@williamb39198 wrote:

@jimc91 

So maybe add to your posted statement:

”Where do you go if you cheat on your taxes, loan applications, or money laundering”?


Well now, there you go again...

 

Making accusation against someone and not offering one single piece of evident to support you claim...  

 

This is still America where we live by the rule of law and due process.  That law places the burden of proof on the accuser.  And here you are offering none.  

 

I get it, you just don't like President Trump but forgive me, we don't toss out due process because you are angry about loosing the 2016 election.

 

Maybe tomorrow wil be a better day, I'll have a good thought for you @williamb39198 .

 

 


Good Americans apologize when they make a mistake. Yesterday Leader D. Trump said his followers were wrong to say send her back, and he did not like it. Well why have not you said that you are sorry and will not use it again as your leader said you should. Now the statement you made about the post is not true. The poster was referring to Trump and Trump has money laundered for years. No bank in he US will lend him money. D Bank, and a bank in Cypress are 2 that loan him money. Loans are backed by the person laundering the money. Person backing  the loan pays Trump cash of Apt. which is used to repay the loan. Now the foreign person owns property purchased with dirty money and gets clean money from bank. Prices are adj. to meet money requirements of parties. D. Bank has paid fines over these type of transactions, and the records that D Bank will give to House Committee will supply all the fine details. There is one person who has seen one year of his tax return due to a law suit who said he played games, plus the fact all in his type of business do. Michael Cohen has told us he saw cheating on loan applications and gave examples.

Lets cover Citizenship. Trump has told we should look at doing away with birthright citizenship in the US. That would mean no one born here would be a citizen until they followed what ever the regs were laid out by Dictator Trump. Trump could then only allow people who support him become Citizens, and there would also be a way to revoke citizenship. Trump would love to be able to use that. The enablers now are even worse than the enablers for Hitler were.

Now before you answer follow your leader and do what he said apologize for saying send her back, or leave the country.

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@jimc91 wrote:

@Richva wrote:

Immigrants are not a race of people but the only immigrants Trump is targeting are  immigrants of color. Nobody is hunting down, say, Norwegians who have overstayed their visas. 


Another perfect example of using the race card for EVERYTHING!

 

 

 


Oh come on. I am sure Trump does not use race in every decision. He has cheated with black and white women, for instance.  He does use it a lot though. 

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@jimc91 

Why should immigrants who want to be citizens be expected to understand the rule of law when trump himself disobeys it and undermines it. 

And as far as allegiance to our Country, 

will repubs teach them how to choose party over Country?

I wonder how many trump supporters could pass a citizen test that repubs expect immigrants to pass!

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This statement coming from the Regressives who's leader just told four members of Congress who happen to be of color to leave the country they love and represent. 

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And not a word about how Trump is trying to keep the number of Hispanics counted by the census down. 

 

Not a word about how Trump is arranging for Iran to develop a bomb

 

Not a word about how Trump is careening toward shutting the government down again. 

 

A bunch of yahoos do something stupid and you are all over it. 

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@Richva wrote:

And not a word about how Trump is trying to keep the number of Hispanics counted by the census down. 

 

Not a word about how Trump is arranging for Iran to develop a bomb

 

Not a word about how Trump is careening toward shutting the government down again. 

 

A bunch of yahoos do something stupid and you are all over it. 


I see you are in the Twilight Zone again.

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no, thats only occupied by those in the Trump cult, lol!!
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Democrats Are Losing the American Middle

Yes they are.
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Who turned up the volume on the propagand machine the last few days? Is Trump in that much trouble with the American people?

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Richva:   Who turned up the volume on the propagand machine the last few days? Is Trump in that much trouble with the American people?

 

 

I think Trump knows he's in trouble so the plan is to open the fire hose of nonsense. It works on those susceptible to that craziness, but is just background noise to everyone else. Won't be long before he makes daily appearances in the Rose Garden where he works himself into a red faced, shouting rage.

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@Panjandrum wrote:

Richva:   Who turned up the volume on the propagand machine the last few days? Is Trump in that much trouble with the American people?

 

 

I think Trump knows he's in trouble so the plan is to open the fire hose of nonsense. It works on those susceptible to that craziness, but is just background noise to everyone else. Won't be long before he makes daily appearances in the Rose Garden where he works himself into a red faced, shouting rage.


...after which he will throw himself on the ground and chew the turf in his final descent into Fuhrerdom.

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@jimc91 wrote:

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Are you saying Trump and Kushner are going to go to joil over cheating to get into the colleges they did? Both are documented.

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@Richva wrote:

@jimc91 wrote:

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Are you saying Trump and Kushner are going to go to joil over cheating to get into the colleges they did? Both are documented.


If you lie, cheat and steal as much as tRump has in his lifetime - you will probably spend the rest of your life in prison - assuming none of the people you have wronged catch up with you...

 

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@Panjandrum wrote:

Richva:   Who turned up the volume on the propagand machine the last few days? Is Trump in that much trouble with the American people?

 

 

I think Trump knows he's in trouble so the plan is to open the fire hose of nonsense. It works on those susceptible to that craziness, but is just background noise to everyone else. Won't be long before he makes daily appearances in the Rose Garden where he works himself into a red faced, shouting rage.


AMAZING ..... That's exactly what Hitler did in his speeches .... work himself into a red faced shouting rage!  The similarity is frightening!

DUMP TRUMP AND DITCH MITCH TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!
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@Richva wrote:

Who turned up the volume on the propagand machine the last few days? Is Trump in that much trouble with the American people?




He is in that much trouble with the radical left!  His supporters, not so much.

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@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@Richva wrote:

Who turned up the volume on the propagand machine the last few days? Is Trump in that much trouble with the American people?




He is in that much trouble with the radical left!  His supporters, not so much.


Yes but the KKK and American Nazi Party only have so many members. 

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Richva posted..

Yes but the KKK and American Nazi Party only have so many members.

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Back to using that...OMG!
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Protestors on @ICEgov property just pulled down the American flag and replaced it with the Mexican flag. The group by the doors is growing. Though most protestors are still on the street. pic.twitter.com/X2waaFMEOW

— Matt Mauro (@mattmauronews) July 13, 2019

 

 

 

VIMTSTL
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@jimc91 wrote:

Protestors on @ICEgov property just pulled down the American flag and replaced it with the Mexican flag. The group by the doors is growing. Though most protestors are still on the street. pic.twitter.com/X2waaFMEOW

— Matt Mauro (@mattmauronews) July 13, 2019

 

 

 


ICE is Dictator Trumps SS so they should have raised the Nazi flag.

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Having been the target of posters that have told me to move because I don't happen to like the area that I live.
It doesn't surprise me that they have little comprehension as to what is the meaning of Free Speech.
Criticizing anything or a government is the most precious gift in any Democracy. and having that ability being put in danger is the recognition that we in the country do not have a Democracy any longer
As bullies do. they think that by telling people to leave is the way that failings are resolved.
Good luck to them yes it is their country, and they are really burying their country and what this country has always represented.

 

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