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@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

@sp362 wrote:

@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

Then why did you keep telling me yesterday that I didn't know what I was talking about when another poster posted that they had NEVER received any paycheck from somebody on Government assistance?


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Not sure I know what you are referring to.  My comment had to do with the poster throwing in Trump on a discussion regarding contractors, repairmen and contracts.


sp362, can't you just see this as a Jeopardy category?

 

"I'd like Selective Amnesia for $400 please, Alex."

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/ (13 pages of lies and growing)
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@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

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Do you honestly think electrical contractors are in the business of extending credit?? You keep trying to prop up your earlier rhetoric, while at the same time trying to distance yourself from it.

 

Contract - They detail what they've been requested to do. I sign my name saying yep, that's what I want. They agree not to destroy my home, I agree not to stiff them on the bill. Contract. No lawyers. No hand jive. No drama. Contract. I sign something similar when my friggin lawn mower is picked up for servicing.

 

Too many companies getting stiffed by losers like Trump, is what creates the climate where nothing gets done without a contract.

 


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Not trying to prop up anything, rhetoric or otherwise.  Been around electricians and air conditioning guys (and some gals who are as good as the guys) for a good many years.  Familiar with their procedures.  I've even had AC people from Houston come over in addition to local people.

 

I've even had plumbers doing work without a contract, plus like NotHappening mentioned, a driveway paved, and that wasn't cheap either.

 

I tell them what the problem is, they tell me about what it costs, if it looks good, I tell them to go ahead.  I do get an itemized invoice before I write the check.  

 

And all of this has nothing to do with politics, but of course some just have to throw in a political name. 


That "political name" has a history of not paying his bills. It's not just contractors and employees he's screwed over, it's clients as well. Remember the Trump University settlement?

 

The whining about never being paid by a welfare recipient doesn't hold water, when clearly our sitting billionaire president will stiff ya on a bill without batting an eye.

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trump-unpaid-bills-republic...

 

 

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/ (13 pages of lies and growing)
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HeyTx,  doesn't Texas required permits for the work that you have stated? They do in Florida. no electic, no plumbing work is done without a permit.
And there are other permits that have to be applied for. 
I feel better  by being protected not only by having licenced people but by the permits that they have to take out.



That is mostly local ordinances, not state.  Not sure about Florida, but it appears to be more of a local thing rather than state.  The state of Texas has requirements for different trades being licensed to do work in the state.  They have to pass standardized tests for each trade and display their license number when doing work either for commercial or home.

 

No doubt if there is someone who isn't familar with the work, a permit protects them.

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@sp362 wrote:

@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

Then why did you keep telling me yesterday that I didn't know what I was talking about when another poster posted that they had NEVER received any paycheck from somebody on Government assistance?


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Not sure I know what you are referring to.  My comment had to do with the poster throwing in Trump on a discussion regarding contractors, repairmen and contracts.

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HeyTx,  doesn't Texas required permits for the work that you have stated? They do in Florida. no electic, no plumbing work is done without a permit.
And there are other permits that have to be applied for. 
I feel better  by being protected not only by having licenced people but by the permits that they have to take out. 

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@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

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Do you honestly think electrical contractors are in the business of extending credit?? You keep trying to prop up your earlier rhetoric, while at the same time trying to distance yourself from it.

 

Contract - They detail what they've been requested to do. I sign my name saying yep, that's what I want. They agree not to destroy my home, I agree not to stiff them on the bill. Contract. No lawyers. No hand jive. No drama. Contract. I sign something similar when my friggin lawn mower is picked up for servicing.

 

Too many companies getting stiffed by losers like Trump, is what creates the climate where nothing gets done without a contract.

 


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Not trying to prop up anything, rhetoric or otherwise.  Been around electricians and air conditioning guys (and some gals who are as good as the guys) for a good many years.  Familiar with their procedures.  I've even had AC people from Houston come over in addition to local people.

 

I've even had plumbers doing work without a contract, plus like NotHappening mentioned, a driveway paved, and that wasn't cheap either.

 

I tell them what the problem is, they tell me about what it costs, if it looks good, I tell them to go ahead.  I do get an itemized invoice before I write the check.  

 

And all of this has nothing to do with politics, but of course some just have to throw in a political name. 


Then why did you keep telling me yesterday that I didn't know what I was talking about when another poster posted that they had NEVER received any paycheck from somebody on Government assistance?

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@BigLib wrote:



Do you honestly think electrical contractors are in the business of extending credit?? You keep trying to prop up your earlier rhetoric, while at the same time trying to distance yourself from it.

 

Contract - They detail what they've been requested to do. I sign my name saying yep, that's what I want. They agree not to destroy my home, I agree not to stiff them on the bill. Contract. No lawyers. No hand jive. No drama. Contract. I sign something similar when my friggin lawn mower is picked up for servicing.

 

Too many companies getting stiffed by losers like Trump, is what creates the climate where nothing gets done without a contract.

 


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Not trying to prop up anything, rhetoric or otherwise.  Been around electricians and air conditioning guys (and some gals who are as good as the guys) for a good many years.  Familiar with their procedures.  I've even had AC people from Houston come over in addition to local people.

 

I've even had plumbers doing work without a contract, plus like NotHappening mentioned, a driveway paved, and that wasn't cheap either.

 

I tell them what the problem is, they tell me about what it costs, if it looks good, I tell them to go ahead.  I do get an itemized invoice before I write the check.  

 

And all of this has nothing to do with politics, but of course some just have to throw in a political name. 

The mistake a lot of politicians make is forgetting
they've been appointed but thinking they've been anointed.
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There are certain things that need a "contract" or a proposed amount for the work to be done, and if accepted then you sign ant that is it.
I am just in the middle of renovating my kitchen and that is what I have done. As a matter of fact, yesterday I had to request extra services and agreed to be billed on top of the agreed bill.
The one thing that I make sure is that they are licenced,  and insured. especially if they are going to do elctrical or plumbing and other more intensive work in my house.Also that they apply for the proper permits.  and one thing I learned, no money in advance until work is completed. unless they required a deposit to commence work. but no specifi % of total cost.
so I imagine that those are the type of contracts that people go thru with most of their renovations, fixes etc.

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The RW thinks only management contributes to productivity so only management deserves higher pay when productivity increases.  They've worked very hard to elect Republicans who pass legislation to destroy Unions and pay companies to send jobs to commie slaves in China and Vietnam.

 

They've done such a good job, 90% of American workers cannot expect to do as well as their parents did no matter how hard they try, while 10% can expect ever increasing compensation and wealth, redistributed from the workers who produce it to the managers who divide it. Republicans have the audacity to call those theives "the producers" and vilifies the workers as parasites.

 

They insist that IF ONLY we agree to lower taxes and less regulation, the dividers will eventually bathe us in a golden shower they will dribble from above.

 

Progressives want to restore the equity and justice that made America great and gave Americans the highest standard of living in the World. The only way to do this is to repeal the Reagan taxscam and replace the minimum wage with a living wage so NO ONE working 40 hours a week, 50 weeks a year will live in poverty.

 

Republicans want an end to the inheritence tax that now only touches estates greater than $5 Million and is only paid by 30,000 estates each year, abolish the federal minimum wage, slash health care for the 90% and cut taxes for the top 1% while reducing services for the bottom 99%.

 

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@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

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And, alas, my work needed to be postponed until Monday (they had an urgent job come in), but while I had their scheduler on the line, I asked her if they ever run anyone's credit before doing a job. Her reply was "Honey, that's why we have contracts!" (said through her giggling).

 


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You need to sign a contract to replace some fixtures?  Doubt it was enough for financing.  We just shook hands on replacing our entire AC system...way up in the thousands.  He gave me a ballpark figure, I told him ok, then when he finished he handed me his bill, then I wrote him a check.  No contract.

 

 


Do you honestly think electrical contractors are in the business of extending credit?? You keep trying to prop up your earlier rhetoric, while at the same time trying to distance yourself from it.

 

Contract - They detail what they've been requested to do. I sign my name saying yep, that's what I want. They agree not to destroy my home, I agree not to stiff them on the bill. Contract. No lawyers. No hand jive. No drama. Contract. I sign something similar when my friggin lawn mower is picked up for servicing.

 

Too many companies getting stiffed by losers like Trump, is what creates the climate where nothing gets done without a contract.

 

 

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/ (13 pages of lies and growing)
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