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Kidboy, don't have anything else to do than to argue with me? anything more productive perhaps?

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OK I give up!

Speak for yourself...all I did was trying to make you understand that you had no idea of what and why I posted what I did.

You just shoot without looking at what you are shooting at or why...but you have bad habit of doing that.

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Speak for yourself as you are the one that is very confused.

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First you did not even know who posted the very personal attack.

Second you were the one that poster that I should know how much taxes were paid by the two posters....that was not the point...the point was the personal attack.

You seem to have a problem understanding what was posted and by who.


Kidboy, don't have anything else to do than to argue with me? anything more productive perhaps?

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You bet Darling, the minute that you get involved in anything, people get confused about anything that you have to say. Hoping is not catching.

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Speak for yourself as you are the one that is very confused.

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First you did not even know who posted the very personal attack.

Second you were the one that poster that I should know how much taxes were paid by the two posters....that was not the point...the point was the personal attack.

You seem to have a problem understanding what was posted and by who.

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@rk9152 wrote:

[chas] Why do you bring up "the taxing of economic activity"? Bogus of you since no one has suggested that.

 

You've seen no proposals to increase corporate and capital gains taxes??

 

[grey] A tax should never be set at a level that generates government debt.

 

Increasing government debt decreases customer-spending in our economy.

 

That “decrease” forces our private sector companies to lay-off.

 

But we cannot forget that debt is a function of taxing and spending. It is the result of an imbalance.


52,

 

Debt is not a function. It is a convenience that cost money.

 

Inadequate tax-revenue is the only thing that generates government debt.

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@KidBoy2 wrote:
rker posted..


rker posted

Kidboy, and how do you attribute that post to me? where do I enter into anything that it was said?

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Say what?

First you did not even know who posted the very personal attack.

Second you were the one that poster that I should know how much taxes were paid by the two posters....that was not the point...the point was the personal attack.

You seem to have a problem understanding what was posted and by who.



You bet Darling, the minute that you get involved in anything, people get confused about anything that you have to say. Hoping is not catching. 

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rker posted..


rker posted

Kidboy, and how do you attribute that post to me? where do I enter into anything that it was said?

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Say what?

First you did not even know who posted the very personal attack.

Second you were the one that poster that I should know how much taxes were paid by the two posters....that was not the point...the point was the personal attack.

You seem to have a problem understanding what was posted and by who.


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Kidboy,  and how do you attribute that post to me? where do I enter into anything that it was said?

 

Having paid more tax in a single year than you have in your worthless lifetime I find your comment not only offensive, but absurd. The "someone else" who pays for all those things in the EU is "everybody else", which is why rational people form societies, unlike Republicans who detest social involvement and seek only to destroy anything not built to make a profit for the builders.
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@cat2015 wrote:

The banks and Wall Street didn't cause the collapse of the housing market, rk?

 

Who sold all those risky mortgages? Who packaged them in derivatives and resold them to investors? Who laughed when investors bought these products?

 

We know who caused the collapse of the housing market.


GOPerdupes hate it when you tell the Truth on them - expect a lot of meaningless flack on this. The mortgage brokers offered deals to solid middle class Americans that were too good to be true, then quickly sold them to others on Wall Street who did not care to examine what was in the soggy bundle until a lot of people stopped being able to make the payments. Then they got jrbush to take our tax money and bail them out, and make sure nobody went to jail.

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The relative desirability of societies is determined by what their determine their citizens deserve, and then provide. It is not how little they can tax the rich.

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@jimc91 wrote:

@Olderscout66 wrote:


That would be the European Union, population 503 Million, all of whom have free health care, free college educations, fantastic public transportation, world's best R&D, lower crime rates, shorter workweeks, earlier secure retirement and less poverty than the America the Republicans have created by stopping us from moving in the direction of Europe.

 


The European Union just got some bad news from Standard & Poor's. 

 

The whole thing. 

 

In a release on Monday, S&P slashed its outlook on the European Union to "negative" from "stable."

By the EU, S&P means the supranational organization that borrows in capital markets to lend to member states. This includes all 28 members of the EU, not just the 19 that use the euro. 

In its release, S&P said its downgraded outlook reflects 3 main points:

 

  • S&P's expectation that the EU will provide first-loss guarantee support for financing connected to the Juncker Plan (Greece's latest bailout package)
  • Further downward pressure on the average weighted rating on net budgetary contributors to the EU, as indicated by S&P's negative outlooks on the second- and third-most important sovereign contributors, the UK and France (Germany is the largest contributor)
  • The EU's repeated use of its balance sheet to provide higher-risk financing to EU member states (most recently including Greece), without the member states' paying in capital

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MY COMMENT:

 

My wife and I just returned from vacationing in Germany during the month of August.  It is becoming very clear why so many of the German citizens are not so happy with the way things are going there.  Many say they are tired of supporting other countries that are not willing to pull their on weight like Greece.

 

Maggie Thatcher had it right...  The problem with socialism is, eventually you run out of other peoples money.

 

By the time you get our age, most of us have learned there is no "free anything"...


Maggie Thatcher brought greater income inequality, slower economic growth and Mad Cow Disease to Great Brittian. Like her commrad Reagan, her programs did nothing but redistribute wealth from the middle class to the plutocrats.

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