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@alferdpacker wrote:

 


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@Olderscout66 wrote:

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@rker321 wrote:

I don't think that many Americans are now becoming Democratic Socialists as you seem to think.

Personally, I don't think it will work in the US.  What they say Medicare for All and free truition At the Universities, is more of a dream that at least in the US will not come to be a reality.

One reason that even if Hillary was such a lousy candidate, Bernie Sanders in reality didn't win that many people behind  him.

Don't get me wrong, I am a full proponent on a Universal Health Care system. one that will be implemented in The US according to our needs.  Medicare would have to be changed in many ways to be able to become Medicare for all.  and  as far as free tuition that is more than a dream. is an impossibility. MOst Universities would have to declare bankruptcy.
So, don't even think  about calling Democrats Comrades,  Ir looks to me that the title is now more on the Republican side. Remember it is you guys the ones that think that alliance with Russia is a good thing.


I don't see anything wrong with being friends with Russia yet some of the liberal persuasion would feel much more at ease with their type of government (Socialism/Communism). Their government is non workable here. It is better for us to be friends with as many countries as we can. After all, the opposite of friends is enemies.

 

Friends help each other and enemies fight with each other with devastating consequences.


The "friend" you want us to roll over for is the international equivalent of the kid your momma told you to stay away from because he'd take you to juvie along with him. After many decades of being totally anti-Russian, strange GOPers now insist Russia is our new BFF... could it be they're trying to deflect approbation from their gutless leader as he makes a fool of himself on the World stage fawning over so many dictators and insulting so many democratically elected leaders? Is it because you KNOW he could never have been elected without the considerable help of Putin?


The ONLY leaders that would "roll over" for communists are liberals. Conservatives would attempt to work together peacefully (if possible) and not adapt their way of living. You are the guys that would love Communism/Socialism. You think everything is free. Like I said before, Russia is better off being our friend than our enemy while the left wants to embrace their way of life.


The words and thoughts of Russian trolls and bots have reached and infulenced some trump supporters, haven't they?

 

 


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@alferdpacker wrote:

 


@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@Olderscout66 wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@rker321 wrote:

I don't think that many Americans are now becoming Democratic Socialists as you seem to think.

Personally, I don't think it will work in the US.  What they say Medicare for All and free truition At the Universities, is more of a dream that at least in the US will not come to be a reality.

One reason that even if Hillary was such a lousy candidate, Bernie Sanders in reality didn't win that many people behind  him.

Don't get me wrong, I am a full proponent on a Universal Health Care system. one that will be implemented in The US according to our needs.  Medicare would have to be changed in many ways to be able to become Medicare for all.  and  as far as free tuition that is more than a dream. is an impossibility. MOst Universities would have to declare bankruptcy.
So, don't even think  about calling Democrats Comrades,  Ir looks to me that the title is now more on the Republican side. Remember it is you guys the ones that think that alliance with Russia is a good thing.


I don't see anything wrong with being friends with Russia yet some of the liberal persuasion would feel much more at ease with their type of government (Socialism/Communism). Their government is non workable here. It is better for us to be friends with as many countries as we can. After all, the opposite of friends is enemies.

 

Friends help each other and enemies fight with each other with devastating consequences.


The "friend" you want us to roll over for is the international equivalent of the kid your momma told you to stay away from because he'd take you to juvie along with him. After many decades of being totally anti-Russian, strange GOPers now insist Russia is our new BFF... could it be they're trying to deflect approbation from their gutless leader as he makes a fool of himself on the World stage fawning over so many dictators and insulting so many democratically elected leaders? Is it because you KNOW he could never have been elected without the considerable help of Putin?


The ONLY leaders that would "roll over" for communists are liberals. Conservatives would attempt to work together peacefully (if possible) and not adapt their way of living. You are the guys that would love Communism/Socialism. You think everything is free. Like I said before, Russia is better off being our friend than our enemy while the left wants to embrace their way of life.


The words and thoughts of Russian trolls and bots have reached and infulenced some trump supporters, haven't they?

 

 


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@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@Olderscout66 wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@rker321 wrote:

I don't think that many Americans are now becoming Democratic Socialists as you seem to think.

Personally, I don't think it will work in the US.  What they say Medicare for All and free truition At the Universities, is more of a dream that at least in the US will not come to be a reality.

One reason that even if Hillary was such a lousy candidate, Bernie Sanders in reality didn't win that many people behind  him.

Don't get me wrong, I am a full proponent on a Universal Health Care system. one that will be implemented in The US according to our needs.  Medicare would have to be changed in many ways to be able to become Medicare for all.  and  as far as free tuition that is more than a dream. is an impossibility. MOst Universities would have to declare bankruptcy.
So, don't even think  about calling Democrats Comrades,  Ir looks to me that the title is now more on the Republican side. Remember it is you guys the ones that think that alliance with Russia is a good thing.


I don't see anything wrong with being friends with Russia yet some of the liberal persuasion would feel much more at ease with their type of government (Socialism/Communism). Their government is non workable here. It is better for us to be friends with as many countries as we can. After all, the opposite of friends is enemies.

 

Friends help each other and enemies fight with each other with devastating consequences.


The "friend" you want us to roll over for is the international equivalent of the kid your momma told you to stay away from because he'd take you to juvie along with him. After many decades of being totally anti-Russian, strange GOPers now insist Russia is our new BFF... could it be they're trying to deflect approbation from their gutless leader as he makes a fool of himself on the World stage fawning over so many dictators and insulting so many democratically elected leaders? Is it because you KNOW he could never have been elected without the considerable help of Putin?


The ONLY leaders that would "roll over" for communists are liberals. Conservatives would attempt to work together peacefully (if possible) and not adapt their way of living. You are the guys that would love Communism/Socialism. You think everything is free. Like I said before, Russia is better off being our friend than our enemy while the left wants to embrace their way of life.


The words and thoughts of Russian trolls and bots have reached and infulenced some trump supporters, haven't they?

 

 

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@Olderscout66 wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@rker321 wrote:

I don't think that many Americans are now becoming Democratic Socialists as you seem to think.

Personally, I don't think it will work in the US.  What they say Medicare for All and free truition At the Universities, is more of a dream that at least in the US will not come to be a reality.

One reason that even if Hillary was such a lousy candidate, Bernie Sanders in reality didn't win that many people behind  him.

Don't get me wrong, I am a full proponent on a Universal Health Care system. one that will be implemented in The US according to our needs.  Medicare would have to be changed in many ways to be able to become Medicare for all.  and  as far as free tuition that is more than a dream. is an impossibility. MOst Universities would have to declare bankruptcy.
So, don't even think  about calling Democrats Comrades,  Ir looks to me that the title is now more on the Republican side. Remember it is you guys the ones that think that alliance with Russia is a good thing.


I don't see anything wrong with being friends with Russia yet some of the liberal persuasion would feel much more at ease with their type of government (Socialism/Communism). Their government is non workable here. It is better for us to be friends with as many countries as we can. After all, the opposite of friends is enemies.

 

Friends help each other and enemies fight with each other with devastating consequences.


The "friend" you want us to roll over for is the international equivalent of the kid your momma told you to stay away from because he'd take you to juvie along with him. After many decades of being totally anti-Russian, strange GOPers now insist Russia is our new BFF... could it be they're trying to deflect approbation from their gutless leader as he makes a fool of himself on the World stage fawning over so many dictators and insulting so many democratically elected leaders? Is it because you KNOW he could never have been elected without the considerable help of Putin?


The ONLY leaders that would "roll over" for communists are liberals. Conservatives would attempt to work together peacefully (if possible) and not adapt their way of living. You are the guys that would love Communism/Socialism. You think everything is free. Like I said before, Russia is better off being our friend than our enemy while the left wants to embrace their way of life.

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@Olderscout66 wrote:


The "friend" you want us to roll over for is the international equivalent of the kid your momma told you to stay away from because he'd take you to juvie along with him. After many decades of being totally anti-Russian, strange GOPers now insist Russia is our new BFF... could it be they're trying to deflect approbation from their gutless leader as he makes a fool of himself on the World stage fawning over so many dictators and insulting so many democratically elected leaders? Is it because you KNOW he could never have been elected without the considerable help of Putin?


Who considers Russia "our new BFF"? Or is that just one more of that extensive list of "those" facts?

 

As to the election - can you point to any knowledgeable person or group that can show that Russia effected the outcome of our elections? If not - just add that to "those" facts.

 

As to decades of "anti" - We on the right spent many decades as anti-Communists while you on the left supported them (hey, those Rosenbergs weren't all that bad). With the fall of the USSR (thank you President Reagan - tax cuts and all) Americans in general were inclined to cautiously accept the new reality in the world - Russia. But now, due to the hatred for President Trump some have to look at his reactions and automatically go the other way.

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Are you referring to the "patriots" who defended and supported the USSR including assisting their spread into this hemisphere as in Nicaragua? And yet now - Russia is the enemy because those "patriots" hate Trump. 

 

(sigh) Very fickle people.


No. I was pretty much talking about the people who fought and died for our way of life only to have Trump give it away to Putin in exchange for a Trump branded hotel in Moscow and a couple of hookers. 


Same as 321 - how many fought and died fighting Germany who is now buying energy from Russia?

 

The shallowness I described to 321 comes through in the hotels and hookers comment.

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I don't see anything wrong with being friends with Russia yet some of the liberal persuasion would feel much more at ease with their type of government (Socialism/Communism). Their government is non workable here. It is better for us to be friends with as many countries as we can. After all, the opposite of friends is enemies.

 

Friends help each other and enemies fight with each other with devastating consequences.


Your words make me very very sad. Never in my mind did I imagine that I would hear an American say that is ok to be friends with Russia. Gee, if I had know that  Americans thought so well of Russians, I would have never come here. I would have probably done very well in my country.
But just the thought that I would be involved with a country that was so different from my beliefs., that would be the instigator of words that go against the freedom that we have enjoyed in this country. That we in this country would find nothing wrong to be the friends of our enemies. Is just too unimaginable for me to accept.
I am now extremely sorry for all of you.  I do believe based on my  own experience that you will all wake up and see what you have been entertaining the enemy. I really hope that your Democracy survives any of this. 
Americans that have died fighting Communism , families that have bee displaced because of Communism Those people will not be with any of you, and will despise your treason and your new alliance. 
Shame of any of you that have utter those words. shame on anyone that thinks that Russia is our friend or that could ever be our friend. 

What has happened to this country? where are the patriots in this country?  Where are the Vets in this message board,  Tx  where are you.?Is this what you fought for?


yOU should consider how many Americans died fighting Japan, Germany, and Italy (shall we not enjoy pizza?).

 

tHE unfortunate reality is that this has  nothing to do with Russia (a reality in the world) and everything to do with Trump. To the shallow, what a President does has little meaning - who he is means everything.

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@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@rker321 wrote:

I don't think that many Americans are now becoming Democratic Socialists as you seem to think.

Personally, I don't think it will work in the US.  What they say Medicare for All and free truition At the Universities, is more of a dream that at least in the US will not come to be a reality.

One reason that even if Hillary was such a lousy candidate, Bernie Sanders in reality didn't win that many people behind  him.

Don't get me wrong, I am a full proponent on a Universal Health Care system. one that will be implemented in The US according to our needs.  Medicare would have to be changed in many ways to be able to become Medicare for all.  and  as far as free tuition that is more than a dream. is an impossibility. MOst Universities would have to declare bankruptcy.
So, don't even think  about calling Democrats Comrades,  Ir looks to me that the title is now more on the Republican side. Remember it is you guys the ones that think that alliance with Russia is a good thing.


I don't see anything wrong with being friends with Russia yet some of the liberal persuasion would feel much more at ease with their type of government (Socialism/Communism). Their government is non workable here. It is better for us to be friends with as many countries as we can. After all, the opposite of friends is enemies.

 

Friends help each other and enemies fight with each other with devastating consequences.


The "friend" you want us to roll over for is the international equivalent of the kid your momma told you to stay away from because he'd take you to juvie along with him. After many decades of being totally anti-Russian, strange GOPers now insist Russia is our new BFF... could it be they're trying to deflect approbation from their gutless leader as he makes a fool of himself on the World stage fawning over so many dictators and insulting so many democratically elected leaders? Is it because you KNOW he could never have been elected without the considerable help of Putin?

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@rk9152 wrote:

Are you referring to the "patriots" who defended and supported the USSR including assisting their spread into this hemisphere as in Nicaragua? And yet now - Russia is the enemy because those "patriots" hate Trump. 

 

(sigh) Very fickle people.


No. I was pretty much talking about the people who fought and died for our way of life only to have Trump give it away to Putin in exchange for a Trump branded hotel in Moscow and a couple of hookers. 

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